Dear all, In front of Cyrillic GP, acting as chairman, I have sent the formal question about Apostrophe on behalf of the group, as we agreed in Istanbul. Based on the formal letter prepared by Hoster.by, the letter was sent today in order to have answer about this issue as soon as we can and to incorporate answer in our final report. The initial letter sent today to IP: Dear all, On November 24-25, 2016, in Istanbul ICANN hub, we had first and very productive F2F-meeting of Cyrillic GP. We have formal inquiry from two ccTLDs (technical administrator of ccTLDs .BY and .БЕЛ, same from .UA and .УКР) about the issue of implementing the possibility of using all the characters of the Belarusian and Ukranian alphabet in the TLDs, especially so called Apostrophe. They strongly believe that this is a matter of preserving the equal rights among all the nations. In the continuation of the work in our group, we need to ask you to consider the possibility of adding the apostrophe character «ʼ» (U+02BC) to the next MSR, which will be used for TLDs' formation. This character is a real part of Belarusian written language and there is no possibility to find a typographical replacement for it. Moreover, the apostrophe is an integral part of the alphabets of the neighboring countries with similar language groups, in particular, the Ukraine and Russia. The relevant examples of usage of apostrophe in these three language groups are: proper names (rus. - Жанна д’Арк, О’Коннор, д’Артаньян); geographical indications (rus. - Кот-д’Ивуар); words with an apostrophe as a separator (bel. - надвор’е, ukr.- зв'язок). We sincerely looking forward to a thorough study of the problems indicated above by the specialists of Integration Panel and the subsequent inclusion of an apostrophe character in the next MSR. Chairman of Cyrillic GP, Dušan Stojičević --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Good job Dusan! I would also like to confirm, that the Apostrophe is also used for (foreign) proper names and geographical names in Bulgarian, exactly as the example given by you. The Apostrophe is however not part of the Bulgarian alphabet. For that matter, I don’t think it is part of the Russian either. Perhaps this will give you some more arguments for the inevitable questions :) Best Regards, Daniel Kalchev Register.BG
On 2.12.2016 г., at 12:51, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all,
In front of Cyrillic GP, acting as chairman, I have sent the formal question about Apostrophe on behalf of the group, as we agreed in Istanbul. Based on the formal letter prepared by Hoster.by, the letter was sent today in order to have answer about this issue as soon as we can and to incorporate answer in our final report. The initial letter sent today to IP:
Dear all,
On November 24-25, 2016, in Istanbul ICANN hub, we had first and very productive F2F-meeting of Cyrillic GP. We have formal inquiry from two ccTLDs (technical administrator of ccTLDs .BY and .БЕЛ, same from .UA and .УКР) about the issue of implementing the possibility of using all the characters of the Belarusian and Ukranian alphabet in the TLDs, especially so called Apostrophe. They strongly believe that this is a matter of preserving the equal rights among all the nations. In the continuation of the work in our group, we need to ask you to consider the possibility of adding the apostrophe character «ʼ» (U+02BC) to the next MSR, which will be used for TLDs' formation. This character is a real part of Belarusian written language and there is no possibility to find a typographical replacement for it. Moreover, the apostrophe is an integral part of the alphabets of the neighboring countries with similar language groups, in particular, the Ukraine and Russia. The relevant examples of usage of apostrophe in these three language groups are: proper names (rus. - Жанна д’Арк, О’Коннор, д’Артаньян); geographical indications (rus. - Кот-д’Ивуар); words with an apostrophe as a separator (bel. - надвор’е, ukr.- зв'язок).
We sincerely looking forward to a thorough study of the problems indicated above by the specialists of Integration Panel and the subsequent inclusion of an apostrophe character in the next MSR.
Chairman of Cyrillic GP, Dušan Stojičević
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Hi Daniel,
On 2 груд. 2016 р., at 13:05, Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg> wrote:
I would also like to confirm, that the Apostrophe is also used for (foreign) proper names and geographical names in Bulgarian, exactly as the example given by you. The Apostrophe is however not part of the Bulgarian alphabet. For that matter, I don’t think it is part of the Russian either.
Indeed re Russian - while apostrophe is not part of alphabet it is commonly used to transcribe foreign words (for example, Scarlett O'Hara character from the famous book.) In Ukrainian language it's a first-class letter and many words use it with no Substitution possible.
Perhaps this will give you some more arguments for the inevitable questions :)
Best Regards, Daniel Kalchev Register.BG
On 2.12.2016 г., at 12:51, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all,
In front of Cyrillic GP, acting as chairman, I have sent the formal question about Apostrophe on behalf of the group, as we agreed in Istanbul. Based on the formal letter prepared by Hoster.by, the letter was sent today in order to have answer about this issue as soon as we can and to incorporate answer in our final report. The initial letter sent today to IP:
Dear all,
On November 24-25, 2016, in Istanbul ICANN hub, we had first and very productive F2F-meeting of Cyrillic GP. We have formal inquiry from two ccTLDs (technical administrator of ccTLDs .BY and .БЕЛ, same from .UA and .УКР) about the issue of implementing the possibility of using all the characters of the Belarusian and Ukranian alphabet in the TLDs, especially so called Apostrophe. They strongly believe that this is a matter of preserving the equal rights among all the nations. In the continuation of the work in our group, we need to ask you to consider the possibility of adding the apostrophe character «ʼ» (U+02BC) to the next MSR, which will be used for TLDs' formation. This character is a real part of Belarusian written language and there is no possibility to find a typographical replacement for it. Moreover, the apostrophe is an integral part of the alphabets of the neighboring countries with similar language groups, in particular, the Ukraine and Russia. The relevant examples of usage of apostrophe in these three language groups are: proper names (rus. - Жанна д’Арк, О’Коннор, д’Артаньян); geographical indications (rus. - Кот-д’Ивуар); words with an apostrophe as a separator (bel. - надвор’е, ukr.- зв'язок).
We sincerely looking forward to a thorough study of the problems indicated above by the specialists of Integration Panel and the subsequent inclusion of an apostrophe character in the next MSR.
Chairman of Cyrillic GP, Dušan Stojičević
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Hi Daniel,
On 2 груд. 2016 р., at 13:05, Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg> wrote:
I would also like to confirm, that the Apostrophe is also used for (foreign) proper names and geographical names in Bulgarian, exactly as the example given by you. The Apostrophe is however not part of the Bulgarian alphabet. For that matter, I don’t think it is part of the Russian either.
Indeed re Russian - while apostrophe is not part of alphabet it is commonly
used to transcribe foreign words (for example, Scarlett O'Hara character from the famous book.)
In Ukrainian language it's a first-class letter and many words use it with no
Substitution possible.
Perhaps this will give you some more arguments for the inevitable questions :)
Best Regards,
Daniel Kalchev
Register.BG
On 2.12.2016 г., at 12:51, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all,
In front of Cyrillic GP, acting as chairman, I have sent the formal question about Apostrophe on behalf of the group, as we agreed in Istanbul.
Based on the formal letter prepared by Hoster.by, the letter was sent today in order to have answer about this issue as soon as we can and to incorporate answer in our final report.
The initial letter sent today to IP:
Dear all,
On November 24-25, 2016, in Istanbul ICANN hub, we had first and very productive F2F-meeting of Cyrillic GP. We have formal inquiry from two ccTLDs (technical administrator of ccTLDs .BY and .БЕЛ, same from .UA and .УКР) about the issue of implementing the possibility of using all the characters of the Belarusian and Ukranian alphabet in the TLDs, especially so called Apostrophe. They strongly believe that this is a matter of preserving the equal rights among all the nations.
In the continuation of the work in our group, we need to ask you to consider the possibility of adding the apostrophe character «ʼ» (U+02BC) to the next MSR, which will be used for TLDs' formation. This character is a real part of Belarusian written language and there is no possibility to find a typographical replacement for it. Moreover, the apostrophe is an integral part of the alphabets of the neighboring countries with similar language groups, in particular, the Ukraine and Russia.
The relevant examples of usage of apostrophe in these three language groups are:
proper names (rus. - Жанна д’Арк, О’Коннор, д’Артаньян);
geographical indications (rus. - Кот-д’Ивуар);
words with an apostrophe as a separator (bel. - надвор’е, ukr.- зв'язок).
We sincerely looking forward to a thorough study of the problems indicated above by the specialists of Integration Panel and the subsequent inclusion of an apostrophe character in the next MSR.
Chairman of Cyrillic GP,
Dušan Stojičević

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Dusan Stojicevic