Dear All, As discussed, you can view the latest version of the charter template here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krM9egtdseUtXjEii2sth4syu97gNJZFqTIlvNMw.... Note that some edits / additions have been made by staff reflecting earlier tentative agreements. Topic leads, please send any proposed text for your section based on today’s discussion to staff so we can integrate it in the document for review and consideration by the DT later today. As noted before, the text in the template is intended to provide a starting point, but you are free to modify/delete as appropriate. Best regards, Marika Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e...>.
thanks, Marika Don´t Google docs allow for comments WITHOUT editing? --- Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez El 2018-06-26 10:08, Marika Konings escribió:
Dear All,
As discussed, you can view the latest version of the charter template here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krM9egtdseUtXjEii2sth4syu97gNJZFqTIlvNMw... [1]. Note that some edits / additions have been made by staff reflecting earlier tentative agreements. Topic leads, please send any proposed text for your section based on today's discussion to staff so we can integrate it in the document for review and consideration by the DT later today. As noted before, the text in the template is intended to provide a starting point, but you are free to modify/delete as appropriate.
Best regards,
Marika
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You can select "Suggesting" even if you have Editing privileges. Rubens
On 26 Jun 2018, at 10:50, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul@gutierrez.se> wrote:
thanks, Marika
Don´t Google docs allow for comments without editing?
--- Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez El 2018-06-26 10:08, Marika Konings escribió:
Dear All,
As discussed, you can view the latest version of the charter template here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krM9egtdseUtXjEii2sth4syu97gNJZFqTIlvNMw... <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krM9egtdseUtXjEii2sth4syu97gNJZFqTIlvNMw...>. Note that some edits / additions have been made by staff reflecting earlier tentative agreements. Topic leads, please send any proposed text for your section based on today's discussion to staff so we can integrate it in the document for review and consideration by the DT later today. As noted before, the text in the template is intended to provide a starting point, but you are free to modify/delete as appropriate.
Best regards,
Marika
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Mine had "viewing" only.... On June 26, 2018 10:59:50 AM EST, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> wrote:
You can select "Suggesting" even if you have Editing privileges.
Rubens
On 26 Jun 2018, at 10:50, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul@gutierrez.se> wrote:
thanks, Marika
Don´t Google docs allow for comments without editing?
--- Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez El 2018-06-26 10:08, Marika Konings escribió:
Dear All,
As discussed, you can view the latest version of the charter template here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krM9egtdseUtXjEii2sth4syu97gNJZFqTIlvNMw... <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krM9egtdseUtXjEii2sth4syu97gNJZFqTIlvNMw...>. Note that some edits / additions have been made by staff reflecting earlier tentative agreements. Topic leads, please send any proposed text for your section based on today's discussion to staff so we can integrate it in the document for review and consideration by the DT later today. As noted before, the text in the template is intended to provide a starting point, but you are free to modify/delete as appropriate.
Best regards,
Marika
Marika Konings
Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Email: marika.konings@icann.org <mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>
Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO
Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses <http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages <http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e...>.
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As noted by Heather, it is set for viewing only at the moment. Leads will be working on suggested text which will be included as soon as received. Any suggestions / comments can be shared with the mailing list or during this afternoon’s meeting. Best regards, Marika From: Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul@gutierrez.se> Date: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 11:34 To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> Cc: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org>, "Epdp-dt@icann.org" <Epdp-dt@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Epdp-dt] View charter template in google doc Mine had "viewing" only.... On June 26, 2018 10:59:50 AM EST, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> wrote: You can select "Suggesting" even if you have Editing privileges. Rubens On 26 Jun 2018, at 10:50, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul@gutierrez.se<mailto:carlosraul@gutierrez.se>> wrote: thanks, Marika Don´t Google docs allow for comments without editing? --- Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez El 2018-06-26 10:08, Marika Konings escribió: Dear All, As discussed, you can view the latest version of the charter template here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krM9egtdseUtXjEii2sth4syu97gNJZFqTIlvNMw... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen...>. Note that some edits / additions have been made by staff reflecting earlier tentative agreements. Topic leads, please send any proposed text for your section based on today's discussion to staff so we can integrate it in the document for review and consideration by the DT later today. As noted before, the text in the template is intended to provide a starting point, but you are free to modify/delete as appropriate. Best regards, Marika Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses [learn.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__learn.icann.org_courses_...> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages [gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_gns...>. _______________________________________________ Epdp-dt mailing list Epdp-dt@icann.org<mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/epdp-dt _______________________________________________ Epdp-dt mailing list Epdp-dt@icann.org<mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/epdp-dt -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
*Few recommendations from my side: * *Delete*: " [The Initial Report should be submitted to the relevant Data Protection Authorities to request feedback on the applicability of the law in relation to the proposed recommendations]." (*just noticed this part is already deleted)* *Delete: * * - Consistent with ICANN’s Bylaws and replace with Outcome of Temp Spec must support ICANN's Bylaws * *Delete*: "obviously" from - Not obviously in violation of GDPR / Assumed to be compliant with GDPR [Presumed to be legal according to the members’ best knowledge of GDPR]" *or write: In alignment with GDPR - or In alignment with for ICANN relevant key parts of GDPR * *Clarify meaning of **'concerns of individuals in the group' * * - Solicit and communicate (where appropriate) the views and concerns of individuals in the group that appoints them;* On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
As discussed, you can view the latest version of the charter template here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krM9egtdseUtXjEii2sth4syu97gN JZFqTIlvNMwfJg/edit?usp=sharing. Note that some edits / additions have been made by staff reflecting earlier tentative agreements. Topic leads, please send any proposed text for your section based on today’s discussion to staff so we can integrate it in the document for review and consideration by the DT later today. As noted before, the text in the template is intended to provide a starting point, but you are free to modify/delete as appropriate.
Best regards,
Marika
*Marika Konings*
*Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *
*Email: marika.konings@icann.org <marika.konings@icann.org> *
*Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO*
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Attached is some proposed language on dispute resolution Stephanie On 2018-06-27 07:21, Erika Mann wrote:
*Few recommendations from my side: *
*Delete*: "
[The Initial Report should be submitted to the relevant Data Protection Authorities to request feedback on the applicability of the law in relation to the proposed recommendations]." (*just noticed this part is already deleted)*
*Delete: **
*
Consistent with ICANN’s Bylaws andreplace withOutcome of Temp Spec must support ICANN's Bylaws
* *Delete*: "obviously" from
*
Not obviously in violation of GDPR / Assumed to be compliant with GDPR [Presumed to be legal according to the members’ best knowledge of GDPR]" *or write:In alignment with GDPR- or In alignment with for ICANN relevant key parts of GDPR *
*Clarify meaning of **'concerns of individuals in the group' **
*
Solicit and communicate (where appropriate) the views and concerns of individuals in the group that appoints them;
* On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org <mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> wrote:
Dear All,
As discussed, you can view the latest version of the charter template here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krM9egtdseUtXjEii2sth4syu97gNJZFqTIlvNMw... <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krM9egtdseUtXjEii2sth4syu97gNJZFqTIlvNMw...>. Note that some edits / additions have been made by staff reflecting earlier tentative agreements. Topic leads, please send any proposed text for your section based on today’s discussion to staff so we can integrate it in the document for review and consideration by the DT later today. As noted before, the text in the template is intended to provide a starting point, but you are free to modify/delete as appropriate.
Best regards,
Marika
*/Marika Konings/*
/Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) /
/Email: marika.konings@icann.org <mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> /
//
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FYI, while the DT/Council is discussing the EPDP, there was a last-minute schedule change in the GAC room, with Theresa Swinehart presenting the ICANN.org Unified Access Model. As part of the presentation, Theresa reported that ICANN.org will be consulting with the European Data Protection Board (EDPB). The access part of the model is based on codes of conduct to be developed as a joint effort of ICANN.org, GAC and EDPB. Julf
What happened to the multistakeholder community? SP On 2018-06-27 09:35, Johan Helsingius wrote:
FYI, while the DT/Council is discussing the EPDP, there was a last-minute schedule change in the GAC room, with Theresa Swinehart presenting the ICANN.org Unified Access Model. As part of the presentation, Theresa reported that ICANN.org will be consulting with the European Data Protection Board (EDPB). The access part of the model is based on codes of conduct to be developed as a joint effort of ICANN.org, GAC and EDPB.
Julf
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This is not very helpful and seems to contradict what the Board said to us only 48 hours ago -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: Epdp-dt <epdp-dt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday 27 June 2018 at 09:50 To: "epdp-dt@icann.org" <epdp-dt@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Epdp-dt] Unified Access Model What happened to the multistakeholder community? SP On 2018-06-27 09:35, Johan Helsingius wrote: FYI, while the DT/Council is discussing the EPDP, there was a last-minute schedule change in the GAC room, with Theresa Swinehart presenting the ICANN.org Unified Access Model. As part of the presentation, Theresa reported that ICANN.org will be consulting with the European Data Protection Board (EDPB). The access part of the model is based on codes of conduct to be developed as a joint effort of ICANN.org, GAC and EDPB. Julf _______________________________________________ Epdp-dt mailing list Epdp-dt@icann.org<mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/epdp-dt
Infuriating, unacceptable, but also very telling. Huge information asymmetry as always. Not sure why we are spending time on this exercise when ICANN org is actively working to undermine us. —Ayden ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 27 June 2018 4:53 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
This is not very helpful and seems to contradict what the Board said to us only 48 hours ago
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From: Epdp-dt <epdp-dt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday 27 June 2018 at 09:50 To: "epdp-dt@icann.org" <epdp-dt@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Epdp-dt] Unified Access Model
What happened to the multistakeholder community?
SP
On 2018-06-27 09:35, Johan Helsingius wrote:
FYI, while the DT/Council is discussing the EPDP, there was a last-minute
schedule change in the GAC room, with Theresa Swinehart presenting
the ICANN.org Unified Access Model. As part of the presentation, Theresa
reported that ICANN.org will be consulting with the European Data Protection
Board (EDPB). The access part of the model is based on codes of conduct
to be developed as a joint effort of ICANN.org, GAC and EDPB.
Julf
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Ayden If the intention is to carve it out and seek feedback on an evolved version I wouldn’t be 100% opposed, but this inconsistent and quite ham-fisted approach is incredibly annoying. - Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com> Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com> Date: Wednesday 27 June 2018 at 09:59 To: Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com> Cc: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>, "epdp-dt@icann.org" <epdp-dt@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Epdp-dt] Unified Access Model Infuriating, unacceptable, but also very telling. Huge information asymmetry as always. Not sure why we are spending time on this exercise when ICANN org is actively working to undermine us. —Ayden ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 27 June 2018 4:53 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> wrote: This is not very helpful and seems to contradict what the Board said to us only 48 hours ago -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: Epdp-dt <epdp-dt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday 27 June 2018 at 09:50 To: "epdp-dt@icann.org" <epdp-dt@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Epdp-dt] Unified Access Model What happened to the multistakeholder community? SP On 2018-06-27 09:35, Johan Helsingius wrote: FYI, while the DT/Council is discussing the EPDP, there was a last-minute schedule change in the GAC room, with Theresa Swinehart presenting the ICANN.org Unified Access Model. As part of the presentation, Theresa reported that ICANN.org will be consulting with the European Data Protection Board (EDPB). The access part of the model is based on codes of conduct to be developed as a joint effort of ICANN.org, GAC and EDPB. Julf _______________________________________________ Epdp-dt mailing list Epdp-dt@icann.org<mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/epdp-dt
On 27-06-18 17:02, Johan Helsingius wrote:
Looking forward to the GAC/Board meeting. Will report back.
Again apologies for the rather unpolished and unstructured notes, but wanted to get them to you promptly.
From the GAC / board discussion on GDPR:
- Does the board plan adjustments to temp spec? Göran confirmed the discussion should happen in the GNSO EPGP. Chris Disspain stated that the board doesn't plan any changes, but doesn't rule it out. - Unfied Access Model Org will seek guidance from DPAs based on model proposed by icann.org. progress depends on if org gets advice from DPAs, and what the advice is - Coordination of the different threads and efforts Chris Disspain sees EPDP and access model as parallel efforts, but "there is a framework for coordination", the board will assess the situation each 90 days as it decides about renewing temporary specification, closely affiliating with GNSO and GAC. Org is eagerly waiting for budget input from GNSO On a question on GAC participation/liaison with the EPDP, Manal did mention the wish for 5 members, and mentioned desire for equal / balanced representation. There was concern expressed about scope (wanting access and accreditation included), but Chris Disspain stated that from the point of timing, it might be better to do access separately, perhaps as another temporary specification (that can then later be made the subject of a PDP / EPDP).
Stephanie, ICANN.org <http://icann.org/> could be taking onboard your comment that accreditation and access models discussed look more like implementation than policy... Rubens
On 27 Jun 2018, at 09:49, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
What happened to the multistakeholder community?
SP
On 2018-06-27 09:35, Johan Helsingius wrote:
FYI, while the DT/Council is discussing the EPDP, there was a last-minute schedule change in the GAC room, with Theresa Swinehart presenting the ICANN.org Unified Access Model. As part of the presentation, Theresa reported that ICANN.org will be consulting with the European Data Protection Board (EDPB). The access part of the model is based on codes of conduct to be developed as a joint effort of ICANN.org, GAC and EDPB.
Julf
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I hope that means they will do this sequentially. It makes no sense to build something before you have policy. The DPAs will tell them so, if they are planning on a frank discussion with the EPDP. I live in hope! SP On 2018-06-27 10:53, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
Stephanie,
ICANN.org <http://ICANN.org> could be taking onboard your comment that accreditation and access models discussed look more like implementation than policy...
Rubens
On 27 Jun 2018, at 09:49, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
What happened to the multistakeholder community?
SP
On 2018-06-27 09:35, Johan Helsingius wrote:
FYI, while the DT/Council is discussing the EPDP, there was a last-minute schedule change in the GAC room, with Theresa Swinehart presenting theICANN.org <http://ICANN.org> Unified Access Model. As part of the presentation, Theresa reported thatICANN.org <http://ICANN.org> will be consulting with the European Data Protection Board (EDPB). The access part of the model is based on codes of conduct to be developed as a joint effort ofICANN.org <http://ICANN.org>, GAC and EDPB.
Julf
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Ayden Férdeline -
Carlos Raul Gutierrez -
Erika Mann -
Johan Helsingius -
Marika Konings -
Michele Neylon - Blacknight -
Rubens Kuhl -
Stephanie Perrin