Hi, As a member of both the NCUC and Euralo/ALAC environments, I must say I was a little puzzled by this statement in the public comment period on the NCSG charter. http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-stakeholder-charters/msg00067.html The statement begins by noting that "This is not a formal or ratified statement or comment per se but rather a synopsis of those previously provided in various fora to date" (lots of writing like that, a bit hard to read, but whatever...). I don't recall the previous discussions on Euralo or other ALAC-related lists that are being synopsized in which people endorsed a narrowly constituency-based model for the NCSG, which will result in fragmentation, politicization, and ineffectiveness. To the contrary, my recollection, which is refreshed by Cheryl's comment, is that ALAC people actually rejected the CP80 proposal, which embodied such a model. And yet the new SIC/staff version embodies pretty much the same model, and now it is apparently ok and to be supported! I'm sure the SIC/staff will be pleased to have at least one reliable expression of support for the dysfunctional model that has been rejected by hundreds of individuals and organizations over two public comment periods. http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-stakeholder- charters and http://forum.icann.org/lists/sg-petitions-charters. And of course, everyone's entitled to their own opinion and bits of self- aggrandizing historical revisionism. What I'm unable to figure out is whether that opinion is widely shared among the people whose views purportedly are being synopsized, and when and where this support was expressed. Did I just miss the memo? Can anyone explain? Would be really interested to hear from Adam, Patrick, Sebastian and others who are more well attuned to the internal dynamics of ALAC discourse and decision making.... Thanks, Bill *********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html ***********************************************************