Dear all, I would like to support the self-nomination of Erich for ALAC. Kind regards, Oksana On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 2:54 PM Erich Schweighofer via EURO-Discuss < euro-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
I would like to nominate myself as candidate to be representative of EURALO at ALAC.
Best, Erich
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Bitte um Beiträge / Call for Papers: IRI§26 Internationales Rechtsinformatik Symposion, 18.-21. Feburar 2026, Salzburg / or Wien (?), iris-conferences.eu ________________________________________ Von: Erich Schweighofer Gesendet: Freitag, 25. April 2025 11:53:51 An: Natalia Filina; Yesim Saglam Betreff: AW: RECORDED / EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 222, Issue 19
Dear all,
I would like to nominate myself as candidate für ALAC.
Best, Erich
SCHWEIGHOFER Erich Professor (§ 122 UG 2002) UNIVIENNA; Principal Administrator (ret.), European Commission, Dr. Dr. Legal Informatics at Vienna University Board Chair: ARI Arbeitsgruppe Rechtsinformatik, Juridicum, Universität Wien Main Conference Chair: International Legal Informatics Symposium IRI§ - iris-conferences.eu President: Vienna Centre for Legal Informatics WZRI and Director of its sub-organisations: rechtsinformatik.ACADEMY, LII-Austria.org, CEILI.eu, ICANN-ALS.wzri.eu and neuerechtsschule.org (work in progress) Department for European, International and Comparative Law & Section for International Law, Schottenbastei 10-16/2/5, room 546, 1010 Wien AT, Tel. +43 1 4277 35305 rechtsinformatik.univie.ac.at iris-conferences.eu wzri.eu rechtsinformatik.ACADEMY neuerechtsschule.org deicl.univie.ac.at Erich.Schweighofer@univie.ac.at; Erich.Schweighofer@wzri.eu; erichs@rechtsinformatik.ACADEMY; office@iris-conferences.eu
Bitte um Beiträge / Call for Papers: IRI§26 Internationales Rechtsinformatik Symposion, 18.-21. Feburar 2026, Salzburg / or Wien (?), iris-conferences.eu ________________________________________ Von: Yesim Saglam via EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss@icann.org> Gesendet: Freitag, 25. April 2025 11:46:56 An: Natalia Filina; euro-discuss@icann.org Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 222, Issue 19
Dear Natalia,
Both of your nominations are recorded.
Thank you. Kind Regards, Yeşim Sağlam
From: Natalia Filina <filinafilka@gmail.com> Date: 25 April 2025 Friday at 00:02 To: "euro-discuss@icann.org" <euro-discuss@icann.org> Cc: Frédéric Taes <ftaes@tsf.be>, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris@gmail.com>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 222, Issue 19
Dear colleagues, We`re happy, EURALO community is a pleiad of dedicated experts and excellent team players with a special careful and very intelligent approach to work processes and a desire to achieve greater success in teamwork. I am nominating Frederic Taes for the position of EURALO Chair, and Ricardo Holmquist for the position of ALAC member. And I join and support all the compliments to Sebastien Bachollet and Pari Esfandiari, who are doing work great.
Sincerely, Natalia Filina
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erich Schweighofer <erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at<mailto: erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at>> To: "Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond" <ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>>, " wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de<mailto: wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de>" < wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de<mailto: wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de>>, "a.aleinikov@cctld.ru <mailto:a.aleinikov@cctld.ru>" <a.aleinikov@cctld.ru<mailto: a.aleinikov@cctld.ru>>, Natalia Filina <filinafilka@gmail.com<mailto: filinafilka@gmail.com>>, "euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org>" <euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org>> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 19:08:44 +0000 Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Re: EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 222, Issue 16 Many thanks to those who have given their time and energy for EURALO. ICANN tries some special form of global democracy and change of positions is a major part of it. As Natalia has rightly mentioned - EURALO relies not only on those with official functions but in the same way on people behind the leading figures, providing important supportive work and consultancy (Oliver Crépin-Lebond is the best example, with SEB not far behind). Thus, let's look for other names this time. Erich
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________________________________________ Von: Natalia Filina via EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. April 2025 20:26:13 An: euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org>; Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond; wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de<mailto: wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de>; a.aleinikov@cctld.ru <mailto:a.aleinikov@cctld.ru> Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Re: EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 222, Issue 16
Dear Olivier, I gratefully accept the nomination and warmly thank you, Wolfgang, Andrey, colleagues, for kind words, appreciating my contribution to the prosperity of Euralo. It is a great honor to be a part of the team.
In any role, on or away of any official position I would continue to serve EURALO.
___ Best regards, Natalia Filina
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<mailto:a.aleinikov@cctld.ru<mailto:a.aleinikov@cctld.ru>>>, "Андрей Алейников via EURO-Discuss" <euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org><mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org>>>, "Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond" <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com><mailto:ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>>>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>>>, Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org><mailto: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 17:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Re: (IMPORTANT) ** Nomination Period deadline = 25 April ** 3 days left *** 2025 At-Large Leadership Call for Nominations 1++ for Natalia. Wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info<mailto:Wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info><mailto: Wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info<mailto:Wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info>> Андрей Алейников via EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org><mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org>>> hat am 23.04.2025 16:47 CEST geschrieben:
Dear Colleagues, I would like to express my full support for the nomination of Natalia Filina for another term as EURALO Secretariat. I completely agree with the points raised by Olivier. Natalia has consistently demonstrated dedication, professionalism, and a deep commitment to the community. Her work—especially in revitalizing communication within EURALO and producing high-quality (and interesting!) newsletters—has been of great value. Her experience and reliability have made her an important part of the team, and I have every confidence that she will continue to work with excellence. Kind regards, Andrey Aleinikov cctld.ru [cctld.ru]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/cctld.ru__;!!PtGJab4!-9IRgrOjCac65lqTH-LT6...
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From: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss@icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org><mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2025 4:33 PM To: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto: staff@atlarge.icann.org><mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto: staff@atlarge.icann.org>>>; Discussion for At-Large Europe < euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org><mailto: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>> Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Re: (IMPORTANT) ** Nomination Period deadline = 25 April ** 3 days left *** 2025 At-Large Leadership Call for Nominations
Dear Colleagues,
I would like to nominate Natalia Filina for another term as EURALO Secretariat.
In her current terms, she has proven herself to be a reliable Secretariat, also publishing Newsletters which are the envy of other RALOs! Communication is the key to an active community and she has really helped with getting EURALO back on track.
I should also add that Natalia has also gained good experience to Chair calls, so she is well qualified to step in as needed, when our Chair is unavailable. Kindest regards,
Olivier Crépin-Leblond On 23/04/2025 13:23, ICANN At-Large Staff via EURO-Discuss wrote: EURALO Positions = https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/162332736/20... [icann-community.atlassian.net]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces...
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Dear All,
On behalf of Jonathan Zuck, ALAC Chair, we would like to announce that the 2025 call for nominations for At-Large leadership positions is now open.
Positions Open:
Please refer to the 2025 ALAC and RALO Elections, Selections, and Appointments Workspace < https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/162332709/20... [icann-community.atlassian.net]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/162332709/2025*ALAC*and*RALO*Elections*Selections*and*Appointments*Workspace__;KysrKysrKys!!PtGJab4!-9IRgrOjCac65lqTH-LT6oWGru8T64DmoTK95AjIIiV2dbTOBxhMMXInGVivgJegjBjeezVf8cqTh4Jiyw4j053CpKeDb2Y$>> for a comprehensive list of all available positions, their criteria and job descriptions, and whether current holders of the positions are eligible for re-selection.
Selection Schedule for ALAC Members, RALO Leadership, and ALAC Delegates to the NomCom:
1. 14 April 2025 - Announcement of call for nominations and Nominee's Statement.* (Except for NARALO that requires a call for nominations of 30 days before the start of elections on 9 May - NARALO’s call for nominations begins on 9 April 2025) 2. 14 April - 25 April 2025 - Nomination period (nominations accepted for 10 working days). 3. 2 May 2025 - Deadline for nomination acceptances. Candidate statements should be submitted no later than 5 May 2025. 4. 5 May 2025 - 8 May 2025- Calls with the candidates if desired by the RALOs. 5. 9 May 2025 - 16 May 2025 - Elections (If required, elections will begin no later than one week after the deadline for nomination acceptances and end no later than two weeks after that deadline). 6. 2025 AGM [ ICANN84] - Newly elected ALAC Members and RALOs Leaders shall be seated at the end of the 2025 AGM following the close of the Board Meeting on 30 October 2025.
Process for Nominations:
Nominations including self-nominations, must be made directly to the relevant RALO mailing list and by sending a note to At-Large Staff< http://staff@atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/staff@atlarge.icann.org__;!!PtGJab4!-9IRgr...
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All nominees are expected to submit a brief statement explaining why they believe they are a suitable candidate to At-Large Staff< http://staff@atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/staff@atlarge.icann.org__;!!PtGJab4!-9IRgrOjCac65lqTH-LT6oWGru8T64DmoTK95AjIIiV2dbTOBxhMMXInGVivgJegjBjeezVf8cqTh4Jiyw4j053CiVuXQkU$>>. All nominees must also complete or update their Statement of Interest (see: At-Large New SOIs Workspace< https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99546548/At-... [icann-community.atlassian.net]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces...
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IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates
Please note: RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment of NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding
Specific criteria and requirements regarding the NomCom composition and NomCom delegates are outlined in the ICANN Bylaws in Article 8< https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#article8>.
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Many thanks for your attention to this call for nominations for At-Large leadership positions.
Regards,
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** Chers Tous,
Au nom de Jonathan Zuck, président de l’ALAC, nous souhaitons annoncer que l’appel à candidatures 2025 pour les postes de direction d’At-Large est désormais ouvert.
Postes ouverts:
Veuillez vous référer à l’espace de travail Élections, sélections et nominations de l’ALAC et des RALO 2025< https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/162332709/20... [icann-community.atlassian.net]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/162332709/2025*ALAC*and*RALO*Elections*Selections*and*Appointments*Workspace__;KysrKysrKys!!PtGJab4!-9IRgrOjCac65lqTH-LT6oWGru8T64DmoTK95AjIIiV2dbTOBxhMMXInGVivgJegjBjeezVf8cqTh4Jiyw4j053CpKeDb2Y$>> pour une liste complète de tous les postes disponibles, leurs critères et descriptions de poste, et si les titulaires actuels des postes sont éligibles à une nouvelle sélection.
Calendrier de sélection des membres de l’ALAC, des dirigeants des RALO et des délégués de l’ALAC au NomCom:
1. 14 avril 2025 - Annonce de l’appel à candidatures et déclaration du candidat. * (sauf pour NARALO qui nécessite un appel à candidatures 30 jours: 9 avril 2025). 2. 14 avril - 25 avril 2025 - Période de nomination (nominations acceptées pendant 10 jours ouvrables). 3. 2 mai 2025 - date limite d’acceptation des candidatures 4. 5 mai - 8 mai 2025 - appels avec les candidats si souhaités par les RALO. 5. 9 mai - 16 mai 2025 - Élections (si nécessaire, les élections débuteront au plus tard une semaine après la date limite d’acceptation des candidatures et se termineront au plus tard deux semaines après cette date limite). 6. AGM 2025 [ICANN84] - les membres de l’ALAC et les dirigeants des RALO nouvellement élus siégeront à la fin de l’AGA 2025 après la clôture de la réunion du Conseil d’administration le 30 octobre 2025.
Processus de candidature:
Les nominations, y compris les auto-nominations, doivent être faites directement sur la liste de diffusion RALO concernée et en envoyant une note au personnel d’At-Large<mailto:atlarge-staff@icann.org<mailto: atlarge-staff@icann.org>>.
Tous les candidats doivent soumettre une brève déclaration expliquant pourquoi ils pensent être un candidat approprié pour le personnel d’At-Large. Tous les candidats doivent également remplir ou mettre à jour leur déclaration d’intérêt (voir: Espace de travail At-Large sur les nouveaux SOI< https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...
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IMPORTANT: Critères pour les délégués du NomCom:
Veuillez noter: les RALO peuvent recommander un ou plusieurs candidats à l’ALAC. La nomination des délégués du NomCom est effectuée par l’ALAC. Les recommendations du RALO ne sont donc pas contraignantes.
Les critères et exigences spécifiques concernant la composition du NomCom et les délégués du NomCOm sont décrits dans les statuts de l’ICANN à l’article 8< https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#article8>.
Veuillez également lire la description de poste des délégués du nomCom< https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/319291560/2024%20April%20-%...
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Un grand merci pour l’attention que vous portez à cet appel à candidatures pour les postes de direction d’At-Large.
Salutations, Personnel At-Large
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Natalia Filina <filinafilka@gmail.com<mailto:filinafilka@gmail.com>> To: Erich Schweighofer <erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at<mailto: erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at>> Cc: "euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org>" < euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org>> Bcc: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 22:54:49 +0300 Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Re: EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 222, Issue 16 Dear Erich, all, Just in case, I kindly remind: everyone can nominate themselves, as well as be nominated by someone, there are no barriers to any of the three positions - Chair, Secretary, ALAC member. Other names, rotation, and updates are always a good idea for the community. Transparency and democracy. It is the only one possible way to exist as a community and have trust, fully support it. ___ Best regards, Natalia Filina
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ср, 23 апр. 2025 г. в 22:08, Erich Schweighofer < erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at<mailto:erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at>>: Many thanks to those who have given their time and energy for EURALO. ICANN tries some special form of global democracy and change of positions is a major part of it. As Natalia has rightly mentioned - EURALO relies not only on those with official functions but in the same way on people behind the leading figures, providing important supportive work and consultancy (Oliver Crépin-Lebond is the best example, with SEB not far behind). Thus, let's look for other names this time. Erich
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________________________________________ Von: Natalia Filina via EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. April 2025 20:26:13 An: euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org>; Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond; wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de<mailto: wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de>; a.aleinikov@cctld.ru <mailto:a.aleinikov@cctld.ru> Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Re: EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 222, Issue 16
Dear Olivier, I gratefully accept the nomination and warmly thank you, Wolfgang, Andrey, colleagues, for kind words, appreciating my contribution to the prosperity of Euralo. It is a great honor to be a part of the team.
In any role, on or away of any official position I would continue to serve EURALO.
___ Best regards, Natalia Filina
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1. Re: (IMPORTANT) ** Nomination Period deadline = 25 April ** 3 days left *** 2025 At-Large Leadership Call for Nominations (Wolfgang Kleinwächter)
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<mailto:a.aleinikov@cctld.ru<mailto:a.aleinikov@cctld.ru>>>, "Андрей Алейников via EURO-Discuss" <euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org><mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org>>>, "Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond" <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com><mailto:ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>>>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>>>, Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org><mailto: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 17:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Re: (IMPORTANT) ** Nomination Period deadline = 25 April ** 3 days left *** 2025 At-Large Leadership Call for Nominations 1++ for Natalia. Wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info<mailto:Wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info><mailto: Wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info<mailto:Wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info>> Андрей Алейников via EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org><mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org>>> hat am 23.04.2025 16:47 CEST geschrieben:
Dear Colleagues, I would like to express my full support for the nomination of Natalia Filina for another term as EURALO Secretariat. I completely agree with the points raised by Olivier. Natalia has consistently demonstrated dedication, professionalism, and a deep commitment to the community. Her work—especially in revitalizing communication within EURALO and producing high-quality (and interesting!) newsletters—has been of great value. Her experience and reliability have made her an important part of the team, and I have every confidence that she will continue to work with excellence. Kind regards, Andrey Aleinikov cctld.ru [cctld.ru]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/cctld.ru__;!!PtGJab4!-9IRgrOjCac65lqTH-LT6...
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From: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss@icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org><mailto:euro-discuss@icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@icann.org>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2025 4:33 PM To: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto: staff@atlarge.icann.org><mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto: staff@atlarge.icann.org>>>; Discussion for At-Large Europe < euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org><mailto: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>> Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Re: (IMPORTANT) ** Nomination Period deadline = 25 April ** 3 days left *** 2025 At-Large Leadership Call for Nominations
Dear Colleagues,
I would like to nominate Natalia Filina for another term as EURALO Secretariat.
In her current terms, she has proven herself to be a reliable Secretariat, also publishing Newsletters which are the envy of other RALOs! Communication is the key to an active community and she has really helped with getting EURALO back on track.
I should also add that Natalia has also gained good experience to Chair calls, so she is well qualified to step in as needed, when our Chair is unavailable. Kindest regards,
Olivier Crépin-Leblond On 23/04/2025 13:23, ICANN At-Large Staff via EURO-Discuss wrote: EURALO Positions = https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/162332736/20... [icann-community.atlassian.net]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces...
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Dear All,
On behalf of Jonathan Zuck, ALAC Chair, we would like to announce that the 2025 call for nominations for At-Large leadership positions is now open.
Positions Open:
Please refer to the 2025 ALAC and RALO Elections, Selections, and Appointments Workspace < https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/162332709/20... [icann-community.atlassian.net]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/162332709/2025*ALAC*and*RALO*Elections*Selections*and*Appointments*Workspace__;KysrKysrKys!!PtGJab4!-9IRgrOjCac65lqTH-LT6oWGru8T64DmoTK95AjIIiV2dbTOBxhMMXInGVivgJegjBjeezVf8cqTh4Jiyw4j053CpKeDb2Y$>> for a comprehensive list of all available positions, their criteria and job descriptions, and whether current holders of the positions are eligible for re-selection.
Selection Schedule for ALAC Members, RALO Leadership, and ALAC Delegates to the NomCom:
1. 14 April 2025 - Announcement of call for nominations and Nominee's Statement.* (Except for NARALO that requires a call for nominations of 30 days before the start of elections on 9 May - NARALO’s call for nominations begins on 9 April 2025) 2. 14 April - 25 April 2025 - Nomination period (nominations accepted for 10 working days). 3. 2 May 2025 - Deadline for nomination acceptances. Candidate statements should be submitted no later than 5 May 2025. 4. 5 May 2025 - 8 May 2025- Calls with the candidates if desired by the RALOs. 5. 9 May 2025 - 16 May 2025 - Elections (If required, elections will begin no later than one week after the deadline for nomination acceptances and end no later than two weeks after that deadline). 6. 2025 AGM [ ICANN84] - Newly elected ALAC Members and RALOs Leaders shall be seated at the end of the 2025 AGM following the close of the Board Meeting on 30 October 2025.
Process for Nominations:
Nominations including self-nominations, must be made directly to the relevant RALO mailing list and by sending a note to At-Large Staff< http://staff@atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/staff@atlarge.icann.org__;!!PtGJab4!-9IRgr...
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All nominees are expected to submit a brief statement explaining why they believe they are a suitable candidate to At-Large Staff< http://staff@atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/staff@atlarge.icann.org__;!!PtGJab4!-9IRgrOjCac65lqTH-LT6oWGru8T64DmoTK95AjIIiV2dbTOBxhMMXInGVivgJegjBjeezVf8cqTh4Jiyw4j053CiVuXQkU$>>. All nominees must also complete or update their Statement of Interest (see: At-Large New SOIs Workspace< https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99546548/At-... [icann-community.atlassian.net]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces...
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IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates
Please note: RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment of NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding
Specific criteria and requirements regarding the NomCom composition and NomCom delegates are outlined in the ICANN Bylaws in Article 8< https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#article8>.
Also, please read the Job Description for NomCom Delegates< https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/319291560/2024%20April%20-%...
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Many thanks for your attention to this call for nominations for At-Large leadership positions.
Regards,
At-Large staff
** Chers Tous,
Au nom de Jonathan Zuck, président de l’ALAC, nous souhaitons annoncer que l’appel à candidatures 2025 pour les postes de direction d’At-Large est désormais ouvert.
Postes ouverts:
Veuillez vous référer à l’espace de travail Élections, sélections et nominations de l’ALAC et des RALO 2025< https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/162332709/20... [icann-community.atlassian.net]< https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/162332709/2025*ALAC*and*RALO*Elections*Selections*and*Appointments*Workspace__;KysrKysrKys!!PtGJab4!-9IRgrOjCac65lqTH-LT6oWGru8T64DmoTK95AjIIiV2dbTOBxhMMXInGVivgJegjBjeezVf8cqTh4Jiyw4j053CpKeDb2Y$>> pour une liste complète de tous les postes disponibles, leurs critères et descriptions de poste, et si les titulaires actuels des postes sont éligibles à une nouvelle sélection.
Calendrier de sélection des membres de l’ALAC, des dirigeants des RALO et des délégués de l’ALAC au NomCom:
1. 14 avril 2025 - Annonce de l’appel à candidatures et déclaration du candidat. * (sauf pour NARALO qui nécessite un appel à candidatures 30 jours: 9 avril 2025). 2. 14 avril - 25 avril 2025 - Période de nomination (nominations acceptées pendant 10 jours ouvrables). 3. 2 mai 2025 - date limite d’acceptation des candidatures 4. 5 mai - 8 mai 2025 - appels avec les candidats si souhaités par les RALO. 5. 9 mai - 16 mai 2025 - Élections (si nécessaire, les élections débuteront au plus tard une semaine après la date limite d’acceptation des candidatures et se termineront au plus tard deux semaines après cette date limite). 6. AGM 2025 [ICANN84] - les membres de l’ALAC et les dirigeants des RALO nouvellement élus siégeront à la fin de l’AGA 2025 après la clôture de la réunion du Conseil d’administration le 30 octobre 2025.
Processus de candidature:
Les nominations, y compris les auto-nominations, doivent être faites directement sur la liste de diffusion RALO concernée et en envoyant une note au personnel d’At-Large<mailto:atlarge-staff@icann.org<mailto: atlarge-staff@icann.org>>.
Tous les candidats doivent soumettre une brève déclaration expliquant pourquoi ils pensent être un candidat approprié pour le personnel d’At-Large. Tous les candidats doivent également remplir ou mettre à jour leur déclaration d’intérêt (voir: Espace de travail At-Large sur les nouveaux SOI< https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...
).
IMPORTANT: Critères pour les délégués du NomCom:
Veuillez noter: les RALO peuvent recommander un ou plusieurs candidats à l’ALAC. La nomination des délégués du NomCom est effectuée par l’ALAC. Les recommendations du RALO ne sont donc pas contraignantes.
Les critères et exigences spécifiques concernant la composition du NomCom et les délégués du NomCOm sont décrits dans les statuts de l’ICANN à l’article 8< https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#article8>.
Veuillez également lire la description de poste des délégués du nomCom< https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/319291560/2024%20April%20-%...
.
Un grand merci pour l’attention que vous portez à cet appel à candidatures pour les postes de direction d’At-Large.
Salutations, Personnel At-Large
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