Kleinwächter ha scritto:
Vittorio
More precisely, Westlake has been instructed to review the effectiveness of the current structure in reaching the purpose of the ALAC as described in the ICANN Bylaws: "to consider and provide advice on the activities of ICANN, insofar as they relate to the interests of individual Internet users".
Wolfgang: This is correct but it makes no or only little sense to review a mechanism which has started its work just 12 months ago
Which is why they are recommending minor changes for now, and further possible changes in the next review cycle.
This was a different understanding and this continuos that there are two controversial posiions. But again I am surprised to hear such argumetns from you, Vittorio, who very often agve the impression that you have another position(and earned trust for this frm the community). In WGIG yo havr argued in a different way. Do you really believe you can seperate social and political processes in different boxes and say this is IGF, this is ICANN and this is OECD?
No, I think that you are misunderstanding me. I am not saying that ICANN is technical so there is no need for the public, at all. I am just saying that the ALAC Review is a specific assessment of the functioning of a particular mechanism, while the balance between industry and users, the accountability to the general public etc. are absolutely fundamental, but need to be considered inside a broader discussion that examines the entire institutional architecture of ICANN. To be honest, sometimes I think that this "box by box" review mechanism is (purposedly or not) by design preventing that broader discussion from happening. Of all current processes, however, the one of the PSC on the post-JPA arrangements seems to me the best place where to have that discussion, as long as it can be made more open and transparent (and again, ALAC has a representative in that committee, can the community make better use of it and raise this issue?).
Probably there is a wide misunderstanding, misinformation and misinterpreation around an old question which is now presented as a reinvented (and misconfigured) wheel. Because there is such a high level of confusion I propose to have a special workshop in the next ICANN meeting in ALAC about "The Role of At Large and individual Internert Users in the Post-JPA-ICANN". I am volunteering to co-organize such a workshop.
I support this wholeheartedly, it seems exactly the kind of discussion we need to have, at least if we can involve all parts of the community in it. Ciao, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------