Dear Nick, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
Verner, and all:
Could we please, instead of trying to find things to object to, try and find things to agree on.
To repeat: there is no difference in the outcome whether one ranks three candidates, or whether you dispose of two individual votes for a candidate of three.
Usually, voting procedures do have strong effects on the outcome. This is why they are an issue in almost every country. Think of the debates on the advantages and disadvantages of majority systems and prepresentattional systems. I think this new procedural debate would stop instantly if you could bring some proof that these two voting systems produce indeed the very same results. This is why asked whether we have some information on the results of both systems. thank you. jeanette
HOWEVER: insisting on changing everything because one or two individuals want to change what was agreed by a much larger group of ALSes in Lisbon is basically the same as suggesting that any one ALS can veto any decision reached by a much larger group of ALSes.
This would result in nothing ever being achieved.
On 11/05/07, W.Hülsmann (DVD e.V.) <huelsmann@datenschutzverein.de> wrote:
Hello,
my first question: "noon UTC" is 1 pm GMT?
For the ALAC-Seats the rankingsystems makes for me no sense and it seems to be not democratical for such a few seats to elecect. Therefor we should use for the election of the ALAC-Seats tweo possible Votes for each voter.
Greatings,
Werner
Nick Ashton-Hart schrieb:
Verner:
Thank you for your note. The first vote will be to decide whether or not the single ALS who is not a party to the MoU will be voting on the ALAC members and the board members.
That vote will start today.
With respect to the ranking system: This is what was decided in Lisbon as the procedure to be used, and so that procedure is carried forward to the actual vote. It is the same process that was strongly recommended with respect to the board seats, so on a practical level it makes sense to use only one type of voting on one ballot to reduce confusion.
On 11/05/07, W.Hülsmann (DVD e.V.) <huelsmann@datenschutzverein.de> wrote:
Hello,
on https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?euralo_elections_2007 I read:
"VOTERS: The designated voters (1 per ALS) of ALSes who have signed the Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN either in-person at the Lisbon ICANN meeting or digitally via electronic mail - at any time before the beginning of the voting"
There must be a mistake: First of all we have to decide, if this "strong recommendation" will be accepted.
Next: If there are two seats we have to vote for ALAC, then every voter should have two possible votes. The two candidates with the most votes will be elected. This is the democratical way of election. There ist no need for such a ranking.
After the election of the two members for the ALAC seats we have two decide, how many seats shall the EURALO board have. The election of the EURALO boad members can't start before we know how many board members are to elect.
Kind Regarts,
Werner Hülsmann
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