EU domain + Brexit
This is rather disturbing: https://www.internetnews.me/2018/03/29/european-commission-wants-to-kill-off-thousands-of-eu-domains-due-to-brexit/ -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
Dear Michele, thanks for sharing this. What I think this issue of the .eu domain and Brexit imbroglio would likely throw up - ICANN immunity, be it partial or full. With regards, Wale On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight < michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
This is rather disturbing: https://www.internetnews.me/2018/03/29/european- commission-wants-to-kill-off-thousands-of-eu-domains-due-to-brexit/
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
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Sorry but I don’t understand what you are suggesting The .eu contract isn’t controlled by ICANN’s GNSO, it’s governed by the EU Commission -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: Olawale Bakare <wales.baky@gmail.com> Date: Thursday 29 March 2018 at 13:56 To: Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com> Cc: Euralo <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] EU domain + Brexit Dear Michele, thanks for sharing this. What I think this issue of the .eu domain and Brexit imbroglio would likely throw up - ICANN immunity, be it partial or full. With regards, Wale On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> wrote: This is rather disturbing: https://www.internetnews.me/2018/03/29/european-commission-wants-to-kill-off... -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<tel:%2B353%20%280%29%2059%20%209183072> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<tel:%2B353%20%280%2959%209183090> Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
Dear Michele, thanks for your kind response. The issue is complicated, unfortunately, its ripple effects would not be limited to the.eu domain alone in foreseeable future. However, this is one of the trending issues in the political world today, and how ICANN addresses them remain another issue on its own. With regards, Wale On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight < michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
Sorry but I don’t understand what you are suggesting
The .eu contract isn’t controlled by ICANN’s GNSO, it’s governed by the EU Commission
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*From: *Olawale Bakare <wales.baky@gmail.com> *Date: *Thursday 29 March 2018 at 13:56 *To: *Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com> *Cc: *Euralo <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [EURO-Discuss] EU domain + Brexit
Dear Michele,
thanks for sharing this. What I think this issue of the .eu domain and Brexit imbroglio would likely throw up - ICANN immunity, be it partial or full.
With regards,
Wale
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight < michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
This is rather disturbing: https://www.internetnews.me/2018/03/29/european- commission-wants-to-kill-off-thousands-of-eu-domains-due-to-brexit/
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 <%2B353%20%280%29%2059%20%209183072> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
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.eu is a ccTLD! Wolfgang
Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> 29.03.18 14.59 Uhr >>> Sorry but I don’t understand what you are suggesting
The .eu contract isn’t controlled by ICANN’s GNSO, it’s governed by the EU Commission -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: Olawale Bakare <wales.baky@gmail.com> Date: Thursday 29 March 2018 at 13:56 To: Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com> Cc: Euralo <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] EU domain + Brexit Dear Michele, thanks for sharing this. What I think this issue of the .eu domain and Brexit imbroglio would likely throw up - ICANN immunity, be it partial or full. With regards, Wale On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> wrote: This is rather disturbing: https://www.internetnews.me/2018/03/29/european-commission-wants-to-kill-off... -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
My personal opinion is that this is just another element of pressure in the negotiation. In the end, I assume that common sense will prevail and that .eu registrants in the UK will be given the same rights as registrants in Norway or Liechtenstein, which is t keep their domains. Of course, I may be proven wrong, like the many other times when I thought that common sense was a common thing... It would be nice to hear the opinion of EURID on this matter. R
On 29.03.2018, at 14:40, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
This is rather disturbing: https://www.internetnews.me/2018/03/29/european-commission-wants-to-kill-off-thousands-of-eu-domains-due-to-brexit/
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
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This was discussed prior to the Brexit vote, a while ago when EurID visited London. A good position description was related on: https://comlaude.com/news/possible-impacts-brexit-eu-domain-registrants Brexiters (and please note I am saying "Brexiters", not Brits, as I think that Brexiters are a small segment of Brits) need to come to the understanding that when they keep on saying "out is out", they might be referring to the state of a Cricket batsman who has been dismissed so that he must cease batting, but continental people understand this as "aus", "fuera", "en dehors", "fuori", "ud", "uit" etc. In cricket, a batsman will be not out if he comes out to bat in an innings and has not been dismissed by the end of the innings. One may similarly describe a batsman as not out while the innings is still in progress. So "out is out" may turn to being "not out" if, for example the batsman hits the ball out for a Six. Olivier ps. I don't expect continentals at the European Commission to understand that. On 29/03/2018 14:40, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
This is rather disturbing: https://www.internetnews.me/2018/03/29/european-commission-wants-to-kill-off-thousands-of-eu-domains-due-to-brexit/
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
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Dear all, Here is also an article about this issues: http://go.reg.cx/tdml/e02d7/5ae65c7f/a5119d55/2Fmp Have a nice day. M. ____________________________ Ing. Matthias Markus Hudobnik matthias@hudobnik.at http://www.hudobnik.at
On 29.03.2018, at 20:35, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
This was discussed prior to the Brexit vote, a while ago when EurID visited London. A good position description was related on: https://comlaude.com/news/possible-impacts-brexit-eu-domain-registrants
Brexiters (and please note I am saying "Brexiters", not Brits, as I think that Brexiters are a small segment of Brits) need to come to the understanding that when they keep on saying "out is out", they might be referring to the state of a Cricket batsman who has been dismissed so that he must cease batting, but continental people understand this as "aus", "fuera", "en dehors", "fuori", "ud", "uit" etc. In cricket, a batsman will be not out if he comes out to bat in an innings and has not been dismissed by the end of the innings. One may similarly describe a batsman as not out while the innings is still in progress. So "out is out" may turn to being "not out" if, for example the batsman hits the ball out for a Six.
Olivier
ps. I don't expect continentals at the European Commission to understand that.
On 29/03/2018 14:40, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: This is rather disturbing: https://www.internetnews.me/2018/03/29/european-commission-wants-to-kill-off-thousands-of-eu-domains-due-to-brexit/
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
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Matthias Markus Hudobnik -
Michele Neylon - Blacknight -
Olawale Bakare -
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond -
Roberto Gaetano -
Wolfgang Kleinwaechter