See below On 28/03/07, Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org> wrote:

Hi Nick,

how about an answer to the questions in this message?

| From: Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org> | To: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org, | Discussion for At-Large Europe < euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> | Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:05:55 +0200 | Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Signing the MoUs

On another matter, I notice the following in your proposed electronic signing statement:

| I hereby consent for [INSERT ORGANISATION FULL NAME] to be bound by | the terms of the Memorandum of Understanding between ICANN and the | Signing Organisations in the European Region as if I were personally | signing the document.

How does this language (which clearly suggests some kind of binding effect) mix with this statement of yours to the na-discuss list, made last Friday?

I do not see any conflict. Both sides agree to do several things, and they agree to some benefits. It is an agreement. The fact that it is not intended as a contract for enforcement in courts does not change that both sides are making an agreement with one another. Hopefully that's helpful. | From: "Nick Ashton-Hart" <nick.ashton-hart@icann.org>

| Subj: Re: [NA-Discuss] Suggestion: Name the public as intended beneficiary | of RALO MOUs | Date: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:33 am | Size: 2K | To: "Wendy Seltzer" <wendy@seltzer.com> | cc: "Michael Maranda" <mmaranda@afcn.org>, na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org | | To clarify, as I have been given to understand the MoUs between ICANN | and the regions is not a contract as that term is understood in law. | It is an agreement, but not of legal standing such as a contract.

Thanks for your clarification, -- Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>

On 2007-03-28 13:13:25 +0100, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:

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From: Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> To: bruch@humanistische-union.de, kiravuo@tml.hut.fi, Wolfgang Kleinwächter <Wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de>, wolfgang@imv.au.dk, aoliva@isoc-cat.org, aoliva@diplomaticnet.com, dpefeva@isoc.bg, patrick@vande-walle.eu, Patrick@isoc.lu, rudi.vansnick@isoc.be, sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr Cc: Europe Discuss <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:13:25 +0100 Subject: [EURO-Discuss] SIGNERS FOR TOMORROW - URGENT EMAIL Reply-To: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> List-Id: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org.atlarge-lists.icann.org> X-Spam-Level: X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.5

Dear All:

I have heard from the following people with the details required to finish the signature page.

IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE LIST BELOW PLEASE REPLY ASAP (BEFORE END OF DAY WEDNESDAY) OR YOU WILL NOT BE ONE OF THE SIGNERS OF THE MOU ON THURSDAY!

Internet Society - Bulgaria Signing person: Dragoslava Pefeva Position: Coordinator for ALAC

Name of Organisation: Medienstadt Leipzig e.V.

Name of Signer: Wolfgang Kleinwächter

Position of Signer: Member of the Board

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Name of Organisation : Internet Society Belgium

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Name of Signer : Rudi Vansnick

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Position of Signer : Chair

Name of Organisation Internet Society Luxembourg

Name of Signer Patrick Vande Walle

Position of Signer Chairman

Name of Organisation Chapitre français de l'Internet Society – Isoc France

Name of Signer Sébastien Bachollet

Position of Signer Président

DIGITAL SIGNERS

(SEE SEPARATE EMAIL ON THIS SUBJECT)

Christophe BRUCH "German Civil Liberties Union / Humanistische Union" (GCLU)

Board Member

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Name of Organisation: netzwerk neue medien (nnm) - network new media (nnm)

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Name of Signer: Annette Muehlberg

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Position of Signer: Chair

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