Your opinion needed on our course of action!
Dear all, as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither. We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action – on the three options: a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all. As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and kind regards, Wolf comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch - EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
Dear Wolf, dear All, I am also surprised that from all the candidates not even one woman candidature has been selected for the final slate. But also thinking about the message we are likely to pass with the petition, I am less and less convinced it is a good idea. For me EURALO's consideration to send a petition reads as a clear sign of disbelief in the abilities of the current European candidate and lack of support for his candidature. I also share the same concern regarding our attempt to introduce more candidates to the slate as of our AFRALO colleagues, as seen from the message with the quotation from the AFRALO meeting sent earlier today by Adam. ---quotation starts--- "Aziz: We already have Pierre's candidature. I know from some time. Addiing additional candidates to the slate would undermine Pierre's candidature and will decrease his options." ---end of quotation--- I believe introducing more European candidates will split our support and most likely none of them will have a chance to be elected. Therefore, as a representative from ISOC Bulgaria, I am voting for option C. EURALO not to petition at all as the course of action we should be taking. Best regards, Dessi Greve
Dear all,
as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither.
We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action – on the three options:
a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all.
As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and
kind regards, Wolf
comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net
Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch -
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
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Dear all, for broader choice and to ensure equal chances for qualified candidates we support option A. Regards, Stefan on behalf of FIfF iPhone therefore I am ;-) Am 05.11.2010 um 15:29 schrieb Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net>:
Dear all,
as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither.
We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action – on the three options:
a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all.
As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and
kind regards, Wolf
comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net
Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch -
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
_______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
Not an ALS rep, but I'd prefer a larger slate. We know Avri and Jean-Jacques have requested to petition (no idea about Jordi or if he has been asked.) I support option B. And I think (hope) we're not seeking a European representative, but the best at large Director. My earlier message might not have been clear: think its a great concern that AFRALO seems to see this as a regional exercise where they support *their* candidate. It's who is best for global at large. Adam On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Stefan Hügel <sh@fiff.de> wrote:
Dear all,
for broader choice and to ensure equal chances for qualified candidates we support option A.
Regards, Stefan on behalf of FIfF
iPhone therefore I am ;-)
Am 05.11.2010 um 15:29 schrieb Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net>:
Dear all,
as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither.
We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action – on the three options:
a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all.
As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and
kind regards, Wolf
comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net
Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch -
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
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Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, for the sake of broader choice and equal chances for qualified candidates, we prefer Option A: EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. Kind Regards, Werner Hülsmann P.S.: Volkzählung 2011? Nein Danke! - <http://wp.me/p12h24-2I> - -- Dipl. Inform. Werner Hülsmann - - Mitglied der Deutschen Vereinigung für Datenschutz (DVD) e.V. - - - Anerkannter Datenschutzsachverständiger* - Expert for legal and technical evaluations for the European Privacy Seal (EuroPriSe)** Obere Laube 48 - D-78462 Konstanz Tel.: 07531 / 365905-6 Mobil: 0179 / 46 86 484 E-Mail: huelsmann@datenschutzverein.org Jabber: werner-kn@jabber.ccc.de http://www.datenschutzverein.de *) "Beim Unabhängigen Landeszentrum für Datenschutz Schleswig-Holstein anerkannter Sachverständiger für IT-Produkte (rechtlich und technisch)" sowie Mitglied der Deutschen Sachverständigen-Gesellschaft **) <http://www.european-privacy-seal.eu/> Wolf Ludwig schrieb:
Dear all,
as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither.
We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action – on the three options:
a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all.
As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and
kind regards, Wolf
comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net
Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch -
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
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Hi all, in my opinion we should definitely petition to get someone of our candidates onto the slate. Concerning Avri: I don't know her, but I know anybody on this list. Of course I am also in favour of a gender balance, but the choice of candidates should be made based on skills than on gender. So I can't yet decide between option A or B, but I am definitely opposing option C. /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch
The goal here is to select a board member, not a representative of the region. Actually, the origin of the candidates should not be a factor to have in mind when voting. However, I am still convinced that the game of musical chairs is something to be avoided. This is perhaps an ICANN classic. Yet, this is also why ICANN is often critisized outside. Given that the 3 candidates are or were ALAC members, that one on the petition list was a former GNSO chair and another is an outgoing board member, I support option B. Patrick On 05 Nov 2010, at 15:29, Wolf Ludwig wrote:
Dear all,
as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither.
We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action – on the three options:
a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all.
As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and
kind regards, Wolf
comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net
Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch -
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
Dear all, we think the current slate of three candidates should be broadened. we think, that at least the candidate who has been nominated and seconded by some european ALSes and who is extremly well qualified and member of two ALSes in different regions should be added. Though the candidates of option b are well qualified we rather hesitate to ask for three more european candidates to be added to the list. Therefore we vote for option a. Greetings to all Annette -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Wolf Ludwig" <wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net> Gesendet: 05.11.2010 15:29:19 An: "Discussion for At-Large Europe" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Your opinion needed on our course of action!
Dear all,
as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither.
We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action – on the three options:
a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all.
As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and
kind regards, Wolf
comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net
Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch -
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
_______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
I'm prefer option B. Rudi Vansnick President - CEO ——————————————— Internet Society Belgium ————————————————— President - CEO Tel +32/(0)9/329.39.16 rudi.vansnick@isoc.be Mobile +32/(0)475/28.16.32 Dendermondesteenweg 143 B-9070 Destelbergen BELGIUM www.internetsociety.be "The Internet is for everyone" ——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————— Op 5-nov-2010 44, om 15:29 heeft Wolf Ludwig het volgende geschreven:
Dear all,
as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither.
We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action – on the three options:
a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all.
As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and
kind regards, Wolf
comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net
Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch -
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
_______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
a. wolfgang ________________________________ Von: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org im Auftrag von Wolf Ludwig Gesendet: Fr 05.11.2010 15:29 An: Discussion for At-Large Europe Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Your opinion needed on our course of action! Dear all, as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither. We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action - on the three options: a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all. As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and kind regards, Wolf comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch <http://blog.allmend.ch/> - EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org <http://euralo.org/> _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org <http://www.euralo.org/>
Dear all sorry for being late with my answer, but currently in Japan in another time zone and less access to emails. I vote for option A as a strong commitment for one candidate, rather than option B which sounds arbitrary to me. I had the feeling that Avri has a strong support in the EURALO community and this should be expressed in a petition. In my opinion more candidates would questioning the election process as a whole. Best Sandra -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Wolf Ludwig Gesendet: Freitag, 5. November 2010 15:29 An: Discussion for At-Large Europe Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Your opinion needed on our course of action! Dear all, as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither. We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action – on the three options: a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all. As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and kind regards, Wolf comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch - EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
Dear all, My preference is alternative a. Best, Yrjö
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 15:29:19 +0100 From: wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net To: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Your opinion needed on our course of action!
Dear all,
as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither.
We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action – on the three options:
a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all.
As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and
kind regards, Wolf
comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net
Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch -
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
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Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
After consultation of my board members we decided to go for the option C = no petition Please deny the previous mail in that regards. Best regards, Rudi Vansnick President - CEO ——————————————— Internet Society Belgium ————————————————— President - CEO Tel +32/(0)9/329.39.16 rudi.vansnick@isoc.be Mobile +32/(0)475/28.16.32 Dendermondesteenweg 143 B-9070 Destelbergen BELGIUM www.internetsociety.be "The Internet is for everyone" ——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————— Op 5-nov-2010 44, om 15:29 heeft Wolf Ludwig het volgende geschreven:
Dear all,
as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither.
We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action – on the three options:
a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all.
As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and
kind regards, Wolf
comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net
Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch -
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
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Dear All On behalf of the German Civil Liberties Union (Humanitische Union) I support option B. Best Christoph ________________________________________ Christoph Bruch Neue Christstr. 6 D-14059 Berlin bruch@zedat.fu-berlin.de +49-30-32103282 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Wolf Ludwig Gesendet: Freitag, 5. November 2010 15:29 An: Discussion for At-Large Europe Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Your opinion needed on our course of action! Dear all, as you may have realised (according to our previous mailings), there was much and controversial discussion on the recent Announcement of At-Large selected voting Board Director candidates and the fact that the EURALO suggested candidate (Avri Doria) was not considered. The EURALO Board is therefore discussing to take action and to petition on behalf of her -- and perhaps other suitable candidates from Europe who were not considered neither. We now need to know your opinions and comments on the following course of action on the three options: a. EURALO to include petition for Avri ONLY. b. EURALO to include petition for Avri AND other qualified European candidates like Jean-Jacques Subrenat and Jordi Palet Martinez. c. EURALO not to petition at all. As we are under considerable time constraints and have to act until Sunday (7 November) latest, your comments are welcome and can be taken into account until tomorrow afternoon (15:00). Thanks for your support and kind regards, Wolf comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch - EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
participants (13)
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"Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" -
"W. Hülsmann (DVD e.V.)" -
Adam Peake -
Annette Muehlberg -
Christoph Bruch -
Dragoslava Greve -
Manuel Schneider -
Patrick Vande Walle -
Rudi Vansnick -
sandra hoferichter -
Stefan Hügel -
Wolf Ludwig -
Yrjö Länsipuro