Theo I imagine for a large registrar / PP provider that the volume of requests might mean they’ve already got something in place or can rationalise doing it. At the moment our PP provider is small and the volume of requests and complaints we get related to it is miniscule so anything beyond an Excel file simply isn’t a runner Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: theo geurts <gtheo@xs4all.nl> Date: Wednesday 14 February 2018 at 14:58 To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>, Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com>, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net> Subject: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] PPAA Reporting Specification Attached for IRT review Exactly Michele, I am not sure we can automate the tracking here when it comes to disclosure requests without some serious investment. If we cannot automate this, it will be manual labor, which is also very costly. The tracking of the different phases is just way to complex. Are we trying to solve something here or merely following marching orders from the WG? Which is an option, but then I would like to ask the WG if this is what they thought it would be and if they realized the attached costs to such a reporting system? Theo On 14-2-2018 15:42, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: I’ve been discussing this internally One of the queries I have is why on earth you need to generate two reports. The TLD data is already included in the first one. -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of theo geurts <gtheo@xs4all.nl><mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl> Reply-To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org"<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org> <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org><mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org> Date: Wednesday 14 February 2018 at 14:41 To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org"<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org> <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org><mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net><mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Subject: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] PPAA Reporting Specification Attached for IRT review Agreed with Volker, Perhaps we should zoom in a little next week what exactly we envision here. Part of the debate, what do these numbers tell us exactly? How are they useful? Etc. Theo On 14-2-2018 12:08, Volker Greimann wrote: As this adds a whole new level of bureaucracy to the already highly manual amount of work that abuse departments have to deal with and as it is something that only applies to privacy service providers and not to registrars, we should aim at making this as lightweight as possible. We should not require additional implementatation work or APIs, a quarterly or even annual email to ICANN should be sufficient. Volker Am 13.02.2018 um 21:22 schrieb Amy Bivins: Dear Colleagues, A new draft PPAA specification, the monthly reporting specification, is ready for your review. This specification includes the requirements for provider reports to ICANN. This specification is proposed to implement the recommendation from the Final Report, “providers should be required to maintain statistics on the number of Publication and Disclosure requests received and the number honored, and provide these statistics in aggregate form to ICANN for periodic publication. The data should be aggregated so as not to create a market where nefarious users of the domain name system are able to use the information to find the P/P service that is least likely to make Disclosures.” (See Final Report, p. 18). We can discuss this during our call next week if you have any questions or comments. I’ll also be sending the updated Applicant Guide to the list later this week, for discussion on Tuesday. Looking ahead, we are working to finalize the RRI Specification that accompanies the attached reporting specification. The RRI Specification will include the technical specifics for submitting these reports via the API. I’ll send it to the list as soon as it is available. We are also in the process of reviewing the Labeling Specification, pursuant to IRT feedback, and will have an updated draft for the IRT to review as soon as possible. Best, Amy Amy E. 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