Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the GNSO Bylaws Implementation Drafting Team- call held on Wednesday 31 August 2016 at 13:00 UTC at: <http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=BicbgE3FNUxHuHwOPdgXp7PxnHhpBITaBzfg...> https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-bylaws-implementation-31aug16-en.mp3 <https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-bylaws-implementation-31aug16-en.mp3> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Farzaneh Badii Steve Metalitz Darcy Southwell Amr Elsadr David Maher Edward Morris Steve Debianco Apologies: Matthew Shears ICANN staff: Julie Hedlund Emily Barabas Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archive:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-bylaws-dt/ DT wikispace: https://community.icann.org/x/yhCsAw Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Adobe Chat Transcript for Wednesday 31 August 2016 Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the GNSO Bylaws Implementation Drafting Team on Wednesday 31 August 2016 at 1300 UTC Nathalie Peregrine:Meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/sRasAw Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:Do need the help, Amr Amr Elsadr:Sure Steve. Thanks. Farzaneh Badii:we hear you Julie Julie Hedlund:Many apologies. My phone died. Julie Hedlund:Dialing back in. Julie Hedlund:Please continue your conversation. Edward Morris:Fine with me Darcy Southwell:Fine with me Amr Elsadr:Sounds good. Farzaneh Badii:fine Nathalie Peregrine:noted: weekly meetings for90 mins steve metalitz:OK w me. re weekly calls Julie Hedlund:Joining back in. Julie Hedlund:I heard 90 minutes at this time each week -- correct? Farzaneh Badii:yes steve metalitz:Annex D is separate doc Farzaneh Badii:am I having connection issues? I can't hear Steve Farzaneh Badii:yes it's me sorry about that Farzaneh Badii:what is our starting point? we go with the order of document? Edward Morris:Correct Steve. Amr Elsadr:There are also new processes in the operating procedures that the Council oversees, which do not involve the PDP, such as the GNSO Input Process. Amr Elsadr:So the Council role has already expanded beyond its traditional role. Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:RIght, that was my point Amr. Agree Amr Elsadr:Also, Article X, section 3.7 refers to the Council Chair as the "GNSO Chair", so may be helpful in considering extra PDP activities. Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:New Bylaws describe how PTI, CSC, IFR recommendations come from "Council". Was that something that CWG and CCWG had in our final reports? Amr Elsadr:@SteveDB: +1 Amr Elsadr:Very much agree with Steve. In any case, each type of motion on Council has different voting thresholds (adopting recs on consensus policies vs. initiating PDPs vs. non consensus policy recs). No reason to assume that there is a de facto voting threshold we need to use. Edward Morris:Although certainly willing to consider some creative decisionmaking alternatives, any alternative should respect the current power balance within the GNSO, including the role of the NCA's.. steve metalitz:Steve DB are you referring anything outside 17.3.d? Farzaneh Badii:16.3 mentions council too Julie Hedlund:@Steve: It occurs elsewhere. Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:17.3 d Amendments to the CSC Charter shall not be effective unless ratified by the vote of a simple majority of each of the ccNSO and GNSO Councils pursuant to each such organizations’ procedures Farzaneh Badii:Is this deadline realistic? I am a bit worried we might not be able to meet it. Julie Hedlund:@Steve DelBianco: I have captured that as an action item in the notes. I will take that action. Darcy Southwell:Yes Edward Morris:Yes Amr Elsadr:Sounds right Steve. Julie Hedlund:@Steve DelBianco: Per staff that is the intent of the charter. An implementation plan, but not development of the procedures. That can come after. Farzaneh Badii:so we just need to decide on implementation plan. Farzaneh Badii:that's a bit easier Edward Morris:The goal in setting the deadline was to have it completed by the date of the transition. The next Council meeting, which will consider our outout, is October 13th. Amr Elsadr:Just a bit. ;-) Farzaneh Badii:no steve metalitz:@Steve DB -- agree re safeguards built into EC thresholds. But we may wish to have additional safeguard. Darcy Southwell:Even if we come up with Steve's proposed two rules, we still have to test them against each power to ensure they work. It may be that they generally work but that certain powers require a more specific solution. Amr Elsadr:@SteveDB: If I am understanding you correctly, you are suggesting coming up with principles to guide our work, which sounds good to me. Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:It's a bit more than principles, Amr Edward Morris:No Edward Morris:Correct Steve Julie Hedlund:@Steve DelBianco: That is correct I believe. I can check. (no changes to Council structure in the GNSO Review) Julie Hedlund:@Steve: I will check. I think not. Amr Elsadr:I'm not sure how we would go about priotitizing things here. If Steve could provide examples on how this could be practically done, I'd be grateful. Amr Elsadr:Sorry. That was me. Got dropped off the call. Julie Hedlund:@Steve DelBianco: This call was scheduled for 60 minutes. Nathalie Peregrine:Amr, we're dialing you bacl Nathalie Peregrine:back Amr Elsadr:Thanks. Julie Hedlund:Subsequent calls will be scheduled for 90 minutes. Nathalie Peregrine:Amr is back on Edward Morris:Or an Inspection request Amr Elsadr:On the last action item, I don't think GNSO structural issues were addressed at all in the last review. Julie Hedlund:@Amr: I think that is correct, but I will checking nonetheless. Amr Elsadr:I'm fine to stay on for another 30 minutes. Darcy Southwell:I unfortunately have another committment today so have to drop Nathalie Peregrine:@ Steve, and all, so confirmed same date and time for weekly meetings? Nathalie Peregrine:Perfect thanks Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye. Farzaneh Badii:bye