Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 11 June 2015 at 13:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-11jun15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXzI03ZqpstVYEtAkUhnqHJbcMva2zeHmsRc7ymk3LF-2BOxB5KVX-2Fm-2B9clhJw37602dkiJ49zK8g-3D_QuA5zZR9ZZ7J1F2FeF-2FOsgm1hgIDcBrAX2P7Ezxmql7ckJc4ios1-2BxObAoz2rzLSI3c4QB1NGo7bw7XrBjpRCbz74w4vzk48UxZMFoBBQBQaQ0ePdiOjdJ30sQNHkokOf-2F2p-2FBvMgKvMhzp-2B4u8fP-2BRrSytHe2KCf2HpQmtSbpezMgNTUG57PiORAPesOotpHA-2BC4pSmXJRsVmpbNaLqzjTAOQGVrurMlM0ZWNF-2BG-2B30A5ZSGaGqhe22g09VFZ5Ghl-2B4EmlE3Ey-2F943f7ffM4E3TePiI7-2B0-2F5uOyiN-2FORjZeWdPL5sKQ2nNa7NcsDbd3oGxftd8oxxGJYTroZDqqfOj6JfNewGC6eX1gzcl-2B6rXWB2ArPWxYu2IeEidOfDxxKWkX-2FDy-2FyXloPgRKJTW-2Fo3466homaeBDOeJd9FLAPB31Sqnf55WmNfI-2FGSvsIYqdDhgGMxDU7CpH97p4yyn4Yd3EDO7QrEowRk4-2F661UDTPv-2BbQX51uTpNOL-2BZ6rafDm> On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#j<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun>un<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar Attendees: Chris Dillon – NCSG Sara Bockey – RrSG Justine Chew – Individual Jim Galvin - RySG Rudi Vansnick - NPOC Amr Elsadr - NCUC Petter Rindforth – IPC Peter Green (Zhang Zuan) – NCUC Apologies: Peter Dernbach ICANN Staff Julie Hedlund Lars Hoffmann Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 11 June 2015: Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG call on the 11th June 2015 Petter Rindforth:As I just e-mailed: Just a short note, from the IPC point of view, that we still not support the suggested recommendation nr 1. IPC is of the view that it is desirable to make transformation of contact information mandatory. I can, quickly after todays meeting, prepare a short “minority note” on that, basically referring to the reasons IPS has previously put forward. I accept the other recommendations, however based on that the transformation is mandatory. Rudi Vansnick:@Petter: and who should bear the cost in that case .? Nathalie Peregrine:Amr Elsadr has joined the call Amr Elsadr:@Petter: I imagined this to be the case, which is why I wanted to point out the option of a minority statement. Nathalie Peregrine:Justine Chew has joined the call Amr Elsadr:Rec#1 is the big one. Amr Elsadr:Rudi's right. The two recommendations have an association. Amr Elsadr:The association is actually between rec#1 and the text refering to the findings in relation to charter q.2 Amr Elsadr:@Chris: I have your same hearing problem. :) Petter Rindforth:Ok, "charter q2", I read it as q2.... Petter Rindforth:or rather recommendation 2 Petter Rindforth:You will get it today! Amr Elsadr:@Lars: Yes. Very true. Amr Elsadr:@Lars: Completely agree. Justine Chew:+1 Jim Julie Hedlund:@Jim and Amr: I have put some language from the Working Group Guidelines below the agenda. Julie Hedlund:On the right of the Adobe Connect screen. Amr Elsadr:@Julie: Thanks. Yes the consensus levels are defined in the GNSO Working Group Guidelines. Justine Chew:+1 Julie Amr Elsadr:@Lars: Yes. Thanks. I missed the public comment period prior to the board vote. I've got GNSO tunnel vision. :P Amr Elsadr:@Jim: Very true. :) Rudi Vansnick:do we have to do a vote ? Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: A vote is only necessary if the Chair(s) decide it is necessary. Normally, a vote is not conducted. The WG is supposed to reach consensus, not vote. Rudi Vansnick:thanks Amr Julie Hedlund:+1 Amr. The Guidelines say: "Care should be taken in using polls that they do not become votes. A liability with the use of polls is that, in situations where there is Divergence or Strong Opposition, there are often disagreements about the meanings of the poll questions or of the poll results." Julie Hedlund:++1 Amr! Rudi Vansnick:@Julie: thanks for clarifications Rudi Vansnick:Amr: that's what i"m afraid of .. Petter Rindforth:@Amr, I understand that you strongly support 4 - 5 different recommendations ;-) Rudi Vansnick:next steps : motion ? Amr Elsadr:Motion shouldn't be submitted until the minority statement is submitted and the consensus level is adjusted. Rudi Vansnick:Amr: +1 of course ;) Amr Elsadr:@Lars: Sounds good to me. Rudi Vansnick:many many thanks go to Chris, Lars and Julie and of course to all of you too Amr Elsadr:Note that when the board is considering GNSO adopted recommendations, the ACs (ALAC and GAC) can submit Advice that is contradictory to the GNSO recommendations. Just thought I'd add that. Rudi Vansnick:Amr : interesting ... Amr Elsadr:Not that I am in favour of that (in principle). Just wanted to note a possibility in the overall process. Justine Chew:I look forward to receiving an update through the email list on next steps so it's clear what is expected of the WG members, if any remains. Julie Hedlund:I want to echo all that Lars said. It has been a great pleasure and privilege to work with Chris and Rudi and all of you! Amr Elsadr:@Justine: WG members have the option to join an Implementation Review Team (IRT) to assist staff in implementation of the recommendations as they were intended by the GNSO/Board. This only begins after the Board adopts the recommendations and makes them actual policy. Amr Elsadr:And a big thanks to our co-chairs and all for the work over this past year and a half. Rudi Vansnick:so we have a few months off ;) Justine Chew:Yes, that's post this PDP - I was referring to the minority position for this final report. Amr Elsadr:And thanks to the great support (as always) from staff. :) Peter Green (CONAC):a year and a half ,thanks to Chris and Rudi Amr Elsadr:@Justine: Don't imagine there will be much to do as long as nothing in the report is changed. Just the consensus level on rec 1 and the minority statement. Justine Chew:@Amr, if you says so. Justine Chew:Bingo, thanks Amr! Justine Chew:Just that from what I heard of the push for minority position, it sounds like serious change. Justine Chew:+1 Amr Amr Elsadr:@Chris: Yes, we have been liberal, but time is tight right now. Justine Chew:@Chris - LOL Amr Elsadr:Wasn't only smiling in the chat room. :) Sara Bockey:Thank you all. This has been a great experience. Rudi Vansnick:save travels and see you in BA Justine Chew:Thanks all! Lovely to make all your acquantances Julie Hedlund:Bye everyone and thank you again! Jim Galvin:bye and thanks all! Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye. Peter Green (CONAC):bye all Chris Dillon:Good bye all. Chris Dillon:I really shall miss these meetings!