Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group call held on Tuesday 04 November 2014 at 21:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-20141104-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Cheryl Langdon-Orr – ALAC Olivier Kouami – NPOC Jonathan Zuck – IPC Graeme Bunton – RrSG Pam Little – RySG Andrew Merriam – RySG Sonigitu Ekpe – NCUC Nenad Orlic – ISPCP Kayode Yussuf – IPC Janvier Ngnoulaye – Individual Apologies: Tony Onorato - Individual ICANN staff: Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/ Wiki page : <https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag> https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag Thank you. Kind regards, Terri ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 04 November 2014: Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the non-PDP Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group teleconference on 04 November 2014 Sonigitu E.:Hello All! Graeme Bunton:Good afternoon Graeme Bunton:space noise! Nenad Orlic:hi all Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:I'm on mute. Will be on for just front end of call. Jonathan Zuck:Just the "top" of the call? Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:sure, top, front end, beginning, the like :) Jonathan Zuck:Issue report Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:great point, Graeme Nenad Orlic:Sorry i missed last few meetings Nenad Orlic:so i may be out of current thinking Nenad Orlic:of the group Nenad Orlic:'F' flow of the chart presumes that if data is paid there is no confidetiality issue? Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:I hear that. I'm just saying in getting to YES we shouldn't make it overly burdensome to say NO. i.e, forcing a YES Berry Cobb:@Nenad. Thank you for pointing that out. We'' try to account for that in the next version. Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:good reminder Nenad Orlic:i'm not familiar with icann budgeting procedure but how is budget approval process aligned to expected timeline that some group should deliver Nenad Orlic:what is budget approval brakes deadlines imposed on the working group that needs that data? Graeme Bunton:this WG can't make data provision mandatory Nenad Orlic:i also think that we cannot make data provision mandatory Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:I agree with that Nenad Orlic:only to provide guidelines for terms and conditions Nenad Orlic:if it is in goup mandate Terri Agnew:Kayode Yussuf has joined Nenad Orlic:sorry for few typos i think you understood what i meant to say Berry Cobb:@Nenad. We will devote future sessions to discuss further about budget for requests. Berry Cobb:The typcial process today is if there is likely a monetary requirement the request is sent to the GNSO Council and determined there. If accepted, the Council works with staff to fulfill the request. Berry Cobb:But likely it does impact timelines for WGs. Nenad Orlic:most probably, but question is how much Nenad Orlic:and should that 'budget lag' be taken into account when deciding Nenad Orlic:about aquiring some data Nenad Orlic:from commercial source Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:I apologize for having to drop off at this point - I'll catch up on the recording. I agree with Jonathan's framing of the process but am obviously hesitant of any policy recommendations that would result in greater compliance-like communication from ICANN itself. Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:Cheers Cheryl Langdon-Orr:all good THANKS Graeme Bunton:There's like 35 people with their names on this WG Jonathan Zuck:Graeme, that's a perpetual issues, obviously. Nenad Orlic:more email communication would be fine :) Terri Agnew:Janvier Ngnoulaye has joined Sonigitu E.:Lost connection due to heavy down pour here in Calabar. Ngnoulaye:sorry, I'm late Ngnoulaye:Connectivity problem Sonigitu E.:I would like to work in. Graeme Bunton:Agreed, we'd need to try both Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Agree with thT Jonathen but lets get it started with IRTP-B Nenad Orlic:ok Nenad Orlic:no objection here Graeme Bunton:works for me Cheryl Langdon-Orr:all good by me Ngnoulaye:OK with me Sonigitu E.:Its ok. Cheryl Langdon-Orr:keep to schedule Graeme Bunton:I am rammed with CWG and PPSAi Graeme Bunton:so 2 weeks is better for me Nenad Orlic:two weeks is fine Ngnoulaye:I'm fine with 2 weeks Nenad Orlic:bye Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Thanks Bye Ngnoulaye:Thanks, bye Kayode Yussuf:bye everyone