Thanks Farzaneh. Happy to show the WG on what we have been doing when it comes for ADC for the last decade. How does it work, what does work? What does not work, how is TDS preventing us from gathering viable intelligence for take downs? We can all discuss that and more. Let me know, Theo On Wed, Feb 18, 2026, at 9:34 PM, farzaneh badii via Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp wrote:
I think Theo's idea is excellent to show us how all associated domain checks work. I support and hope it can be accommodate during Mumbai.
<So here is my offer, during the Mumbai meeting, is it an idea I do a live demo on how all these associated searches work on a registrar level? Perhaps a visual demo gives us a better picture on what it all entails and gives the group a better understanding? >
Farzaneh
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: *Theo Geurts* <gnso@dcx.nl> Date: Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp] Re: DNS Abuse Mitigation PDP1 - WG Kick-Off Email To: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns@gmail.com>, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> Cc: Feodora Hamza <feodora.hamza@icann.org>, gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org <gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org>
__ Hi all,
Let me provide a suggestion here. 240 minutes a week sounds like overkill.
Why do I mention overkill? Well I suspect the topic is somewhat opaque on how all this works in reality and how it works an operational level. I realize that the majority of the WG never hunted down cybercriminals based on association and suspended domain names.
So here is my offer, during the Mumbai meeting, is it an idea I do a live demo on how all these associated searches work on a registrar level? Perhaps a visual demo gives us a better picture on what it all entails and gives the group a better understanding? Including topics like how often we should meet.
Be advised when we did the EPDP on GDPR and WHOIS, we had 4 alternates. Because real life can get in the way with such amount of meetings. And even 4 was not enough at times.
Best,
Theo Geurts
Lead cybercrime mitigation and investigator, Realtime Register B.V.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2026, at 8:40 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos via Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp wrote:
Thanks so much, Feodora!
I would like to support Farzaneh's comment on this and request that we have at least a first convening that can define - jointly and through consensus - the cadence of the meetings and so on.
Added to that, a couple of thoughts: • We would also appreciate that Council can confirm the decision as soon as possible. So we can avoid basing ourselves on preliminary announcements. • As for the Vice-chair position, it would also be nice to have a proper discussion about the selection process. Since this was an SSC recommendation, I think it would also be important to take into account the runner up for the position of vice-chair or re-open a nomination process and so on. Best, Bruna
Best, Bruna
On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 1:05 AM farzaneh badii via Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp <gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org> wrote:
Thank you Feodora.
It was never discussed with us that we need to have two weekly meetings of two hours each, and the start date is clear but there is no end date. Who picked that duration? We need to as a group come up with a timeline and deliverables and see how many meetings we need to have to meet that deadline. For some of us it's impossible to have two 120 minute meetings a week.
Farzaneh
On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 1:00 PM Feodora Hamza via Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp <gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org> wrote:
*_Sent on behalf of Paul McGrady_____*
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Dear DNS Abuse Mitigation PDP1 Working Group members,____
Welcome to the Working Group (WG) tasked with developing policy to advance DNS Abuse mitigation! Today, I received the message from Council Leadership that the SSC has reached its preliminary decision, recommending me as the Chair for the DNS Abuse Mitigation PDP1 WG, though the formal confirmation by Council is to be on 11 March. To ensure smooth progress and a timely start of the PDP work, I was allowed, pending formal confirmation, to already start preparing the WG for ICANN85, supported by the GNSO Support Staff (Feodora Hamza, John Emery, Steve Chan). We look forward to working with all of you on this PDP.____
*Our first meeting will be at ICANN85 in person on Saturday, 07 March, at 15:00-16:00 (local time).* We look forward to seeing those attending in-person there! The WG will have four sessions during ICANN85 taking place as follows: ____
• Kick-off Meeting: Saturday, 07 March at 15:00 – 16:00 (local time)____ • Session 2: Saturday, 07 March at 16:30 to 17:30 (local time)____ • Session 3: Monday, 09 March at 13:15 to 14:30 (local time)____ • Session 4: Monday, 09 March at 15:00 – 16:00 (local time)____ • Please see the Sched schedule for more information: https://icann85.sched.com/ ____ Shortly after this Email, you will receive an email to complete *a Doodle poll to help us schedule two weekly 120-minute meetings for the week of 23 March onwards. _Please complete the Doodle poll by Tuesday, 03 March 2026, as requested via email._* Any suggestions for future meeting times/duration can be discussed during Kick-off.____
In addition, I would like to open a *_Call for Volunteers for the Vice Chair position to this WG prior to the Kick-off Meeting._* *_Please respond to this email if you would like to volunteer, or if you would like to nominate someone by the end of this month, Friday, 27 February._* We will seek to finalize the Vice Chair role by the Kick-off meeting.____
In advance of our first meeting, I would like to share a few notes to help ensure that we can get through all of the start-up tasks for the WG in a timely manner. ____
First, a wiki <https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/DAMP1/overview> has been established to provide background and present the current members of the team, while also supporting this Team in its future endeavors. More background information and relevant materials can also be found on the GNSO Activities website <https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active/dns-abuse-mitigation-pdp-1>. Please take the time to begin familiarizing yourself with the following materials in preparation for our first meeting: ____
__· __Working Group Charter <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2026/draft/charter-dns-abu...> ____
__· __Final Issue Report <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2025/draft/issue-report-dns-abuse-mitigation-v04dec25-en.pdf>____
__· __Consensus Playbook [gnso.icann.org] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/pdp-3-4-consensus-playbook-03jul20-en.pdf__;!!PtGJab4!4mbL57hzokVxuWUcjMa5wAHt_fglLhOKqQfBazs18vGGRgoUwAha5SLFgks2kbsyofdGbMlymNECxDFI5cMQmPFDGfkuqA0hEA$>____
__· __GNSO Working Group Guidelines [gnso.icann.org] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/f...> & PDP Manual [gnso.icann.org] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-2-pdp-manual-24oct19-en.pdf__;!!PtGJab4!4mbL57hzokVxuWUcjMa5wAHt_fglLhOKqQfBazs18vGGRgoUwAha5SLFgks2kbsyofdGbMlymNECxDFI5cMQmPFDGfkQQ89JCA$>____
Once you have completed your document review, please confirm here. <https://forms.gle/3L96uUDxBNobyhgT9> The goal of this exercise is to ensure that everyone is starting off on the same page with the same foundation of information, which will enable us to be a more effective team. ____
In addition, a document library is included on the WG workspace (see https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/DAMP1/pages/766312449/4.+B... ). An understanding of these documents and their contents will help to ensure your full and productive participation in WG deliberations. More materials will be added to this space as the PDP kicks off.____
The following items will be on the agenda for the first meeting(s):____
1. *Introductions:* As standard practice during the first meeting of a PDP WG, members will do a round of verbal introductions so we can get to know each other. Please be prepared to speak briefly (no more than one minute) about your relevant experience/background and any objectives you have for participating.____ 2. *Leadership Team and Liaison Roles: *As mentioned above, we have an opportunity to select one Vice Chair for this WG, but we are not required to do so. If and when we have a volunteer for the Vice Chair position through the mailing list, we will confirm by non-objection during this time. If none, we would suggest that we proceed without a Vice Chair and revisit the topic if necessary in the future. If more than one person volunteers for the role, the WG will decide by voting. ____ The GNSO Council is to appoint one Liaison who is accountable to the Council. The GNSO Council chose Jennifer Chung as Council Liaison for this PDP. This role will act as a part of the Leadership Team and be introduced during this time.____
Other Liaison roles, such as Org Liaisons and the Board Liaison, will be introduced if and when we have confirmation by this time.____
1. *Charter: *It is required for everyone to read through the Working Group Charter <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2026/draft/charter-dns-abu...> and be familiar with its content before the first call. We will go over some key points and answer any questions that members have.____ *While we go over the Charter during our first meeting, *we’ll talk about some of the logistical elements of how we will work, including the decision-making process for this WG. We’ll also review what is expected of those participating in this WG. From the outset, I would like to emphasize the importance of working towards developing consensus recommendations, which means working constructively and collaboratively to find outcomes that members can ultimately accept. To this end, the Consensus Playbook [gnso.icann.org] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/f...> is among the resources that you are being asked to read by the second meeting. We’ll be drawing on the methods and techniques in the playbook throughout the life of the PDP, so everyone should be familiar with it.____
1. *Project/Work Plan*: On our first call, we will have an opportunity to speak a about the Project Plan/Work Plan and what can be expected in our first weeks of work on this PDP. As a preview, the initial areas of focus will be:____ 1. High-level review of the topic within the Charter____ 2. Requesting input from SO/AC/SG/Cs on the topic____ 3. Deliver Project Plan to the GNSO Council____ 1. *Meeting Frequency and Schedule*: Again coming back to housekeeping issues, we’ll have an opportunity to discuss the meeting frequency and the proposed day/time of the calls, if necessary.____ 2. *GPI/HR Framework: *The WG is expected to consider any recommendations that may have potential impact on Global Public Interest (GPI) and/or Human Rights (HR). A high-level overview will be provided on what needs to be considered during the PDP and how this will be reflected into the WG’s Work Plan.____ Welcome again to the DNS Abuse Mitigation PDP1 WG, and the GNSO Support Staff and I look forward to working with you all!____
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Please do not hesitate to reach out if you have any questions or concerns.____
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Thank you.____
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Best regards,____
Paul Mcgrady____
Preliminary Chair, DNSAM PDP1____
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