And let's keep in mind that the Registrar can suspend the domains and reach out to the Registrant offering a chance for redress, respectful of all processes, legal or otherwise. But again, we are talking about abuse mitigation here, which is not in the scope of this PDP. I was just offering an example of how ADC can help expedite the mitigation without adding too much overhead to the process. ΜΕΓΓΟΥΔΗΣ Ναούμ Αστυνόμος Α' Διεύθυνση Δίωξης Κυβερνοεγκλήματος Τμήμα Διαδικτυακής Προστασίας Ανηλίκων Λ. Αλεξάνδρας 173, 115 22, Αθήνα<https://www.google.com/maps/place/%CE%94%CE%B9%CE%B5%CF%8D%CE%B8%CF%85%CE%BD...> MENGOUDIS Naoum Police Major Cyber Crime Directorate Online Child Protection Department Alexandras Avenue 173, 115 22, Athens<https://www.google.com/maps/place/%CE%94%CE%B9%CE%B5%CF%8D%CE%B8%CF%85%CE%BD...> T: (+30) 2106476475 E: n.mengoudis@cybercrimeunit.gov.gr<mailto:n.mengoudis@cybercrimeunit.gr> ------------------- Email Disclaimer This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system.If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Think green before printing ________________________________ From: trachtenbergm--- via Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp <gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2026 09:59 To: el@lisse.na <el@lisse.na>; gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org <gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp] Re: Another numbers request. I understand that but the client paid subject to the terms. If the terms of service of the registrar state that customers who violate the terms, including specifically the acceptable use policy, are subject to suspension or termination of the registrar’s services, which include the domain names in their account, I do not see what the legal issue is. Are you aware of a specific jurisdiction where this would be problematic under the applicable law? I also don’t think a court will be too sympathetic where the registrant used 20 out of the 100 domain names in its account for phishing or malware. Best regards, Marc H. Trachtenberg Shareholder Chair, Internet, Domain Name, e-Commerce and Social Media Practice Greenberg Traurig, LLP Aspen Chicago 411 E. Main Street 360 North Green Street Suite 207 | Aspen, CO 81611 Suite 1300 | Chicago, IL 60607 T +1.970.300.5313 T +1.312.456.1020 M +1.773.677.3305 M +1.773.677.3305 trac@gtlaw.com<mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com> | www.gtlaw.com<http://www.gtlaw.com/> | View GT Biography <https://www.gtlaw.com/en/professionals/t/trachtenberg-marc-h> [Greenberg Traurig Logo] [Greenberg Traurig Logo] From: Eberhard W Lisse via Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp <gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2026 12:55 AM To: gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp] Re: Another numbers request. I am coming at this from the ccTLD perspective, remember? Where we are used to having approximately 250 different jurisdictions (Civil and Common Law). We are talking about guilt by association here, not (so much) proven DNS abuse. And, when this Policy filters down into the Registrar Agreement, does this material change work retrospectively? The client paid (consideration) and the Registrar just removes additional 100 names. I am not sure how that would fly in Court. el -- Sent from my iPhone On Apr 13, 2026 at 01:54 +0200, trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com<mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com>, wrote: Eberhart, How would it be illegal for a registrar to suspend or terminate services when the registrar's terms have been violated if such remedy is described in the terms? This happens every day. Best regards, Marc H. Trachtenberg Shareholder Chair, Internet, Domain Name, e-Commerce and Social Media Practice Greenberg Traurig, LLP Aspen Chicago 411 E. Main Street 360 North Green Street Suite 207 | Aspen, CO 81611 Suite 1300 | Chicago, IL 60607 T +1.970.300.5313 T +1.312.456.1020 M +1.773.677.3305 M +1.773.677.3305 trac@gtlaw.com | www.gtlaw.com<http://www.gtlaw.com/> | View GT Biography -----Original Message----- From: Eberhard W Lisse via Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp <gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org>> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2026 2:53 PM To: gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp] Re: Another numbers request. *EXTERNAL TO GT* It would probably be plain illegal, at least cuase significant legal exposure.œ el On 2026-04-12 21:11, trachtenbergm--- via Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp wrote: In this example of the customer that has 20 out of 100 domains which are deemed to be abusive, then I disagree that suspending all of the domain names in the account would constitute a disproportionate or unjustified impacts on the registrant or end user. [...] Marc H. 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