Draft Outcome: Charter Questions A5 & A6
Dear All, Please find the draft outcome language for charter questions A5 and A6 on this google doc, pp.6-11: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bt0LT45UaLynFNverh1nJhyvq6q6NxgSFAOnOp2L... (it is also posted on the wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/XwyHCg). Following the agreed format, the draft outcome language includes the following components: * Brief answer to the charter question * Recommendations and implementation guidance * Rationale for recommendations and implementation guidance We would like to highlight the following elements: * Recommendation 1.5 under A5 (p.6): this proposed recommendation may be revisited after the EPDP Team tackles other charter questions; additional details may need to be fleshed out. * Recommendation 1.6 under A6 (p.9): please pay particular attention to the proposed definition of “grandfathering” and provide input, if any. Please provide any input/suggestion for the draft outcome language on the mailing list by Tuesday, 22 January. Any substantive comments will be discussed during the EPDP Team meeting in about two weeks. Best Regards, Steve, Emily, Ariel
Hi All Just to follow on from Ariel's email: consideration and input on the language drafted for A5 and A6 by the represented groups of this EPDP Team is really important to our work. Rather than rely on the assumption that no comment means agreement, I'd prefer to have each represented group actively confirm their agreement if that is indeed the case and if not, provide comments/input so that we can discuss areas of contention and find agreeable language for all to the extent possible. Thanks Donna From: Gnso-epdp-idn-team <gnso-epdp-idn-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Ariel Liang Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 2:22 AM To: gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Draft Outcome: Charter Questions A5 & A6 Caution: This email is from an external sender. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Forward suspicious emails to isitbad@. Dear All, Please find the draft outcome language for charter questions A5 and A6 on this google doc, pp.6-11: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bt0LT45UaLynFNverh1nJhyvq6q6NxgSFAOnOp2LG44/edit?usp=sharing<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1Bt0LT45UaLynFNverh1nJhyvq6q6NxgSFAOnOp2LG44%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Cdonna%40registry.godaddy%7Cec5678bdab8847af7e3508d9eb1f22eb%7Cd5f1622b14a345a6b069003f8dc4851f%7C0%7C0%7C637799343064218162%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=6fPiesIPToRIeyAdAjFAR5A5ke%2F8N%2FaJYCHk6L%2FpHAI%3D&reserved=0> (it is also posted on the wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/XwyHCg<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FXwyHCg&data=04%7C01%7Cdonna%40registry.godaddy%7Cec5678bdab8847af7e3508d9eb1f22eb%7Cd5f1622b14a345a6b069003f8dc4851f%7C0%7C0%7C637799343064218162%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=rNiJoEb58x4UtCcXq8sfOGo9P8VdPACutD9GY0RcuTk%3D&reserved=0>). Following the agreed format, the draft outcome language includes the following components: * Brief answer to the charter question * Recommendations and implementation guidance * Rationale for recommendations and implementation guidance We would like to highlight the following elements: * Recommendation 1.5 under A5 (p.6): this proposed recommendation may be revisited after the EPDP Team tackles other charter questions; additional details may need to be fleshed out. * Recommendation 1.6 under A6 (p.9): please pay particular attention to the proposed definition of "grandfathering" and provide input, if any. Please provide any input/suggestion for the draft outcome language on the mailing list by Tuesday, 22 January. Any substantive comments will be discussed during the EPDP Team meeting in about two weeks. Best Regards, Steve, Emily, Ariel
Hi all, I believe Ariel meant to say, .... ... *Please provide any input/suggestion for the draft outcome language on the mailing list by Tuesday, 22 February. Any substantive comments will be discussed during the EPDP Team meeting in about two weeks.* Cheers, Justine On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 08:28, Donna@registry.godaddy <Donna@registry.godaddy> wrote:
Hi All
Just to follow on from Ariel’s email: consideration and input on the language drafted for A5 and A6 by the represented groups of this EPDP Team is really important to our work.
Rather than rely on the assumption that no comment means agreement, I’d prefer to have each represented group actively confirm their agreement if that is indeed the case and if not, provide comments/input so that we can discuss areas of contention and find agreeable language for all to the extent possible.
Thanks
Donna
*From:* Gnso-epdp-idn-team <gnso-epdp-idn-team-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Ariel Liang *Sent:* Wednesday, February 9, 2022 2:22 AM *To:* gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org *Subject:* [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Draft Outcome: Charter Questions A5 & A6
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Dear All,
Please find the draft outcome language for charter questions A5 and A6 on this google doc, pp.6-11: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bt0LT45UaLynFNverh1nJhyvq6q6NxgSFAOnOp2L... <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1Bt0LT45UaLynFNverh1nJhyvq6q6NxgSFAOnOp2LG44%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Cdonna%40registry.godaddy%7Cec5678bdab8847af7e3508d9eb1f22eb%7Cd5f1622b14a345a6b069003f8dc4851f%7C0%7C0%7C637799343064218162%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=6fPiesIPToRIeyAdAjFAR5A5ke%2F8N%2FaJYCHk6L%2FpHAI%3D&reserved=0> (it is also posted on the wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/XwyHCg <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FXwyHCg&data=04%7C01%7Cdonna%40registry.godaddy%7Cec5678bdab8847af7e3508d9eb1f22eb%7Cd5f1622b14a345a6b069003f8dc4851f%7C0%7C0%7C637799343064218162%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=rNiJoEb58x4UtCcXq8sfOGo9P8VdPACutD9GY0RcuTk%3D&reserved=0> ).
Following the agreed format, the draft outcome language includes the following components:
- Brief answer to the charter question - Recommendations and implementation guidance - Rationale for recommendations and implementation guidance
We would like to highlight the following elements:
- *Recommendation 1.5 under A5* (p.6): this proposed recommendation may be revisited after the EPDP Team tackles other charter questions; additional details may need to be fleshed out. - *Recommendation 1.6 under A6* (p.9): please pay particular attention to the proposed definition of “grandfathering” and provide input, if any.
Please provide any input/suggestion for the draft outcome language on the *mailing list* by *Tuesday, 22 January*. Any substantive comments will be discussed during the EPDP Team meeting in about two weeks.
Best Regards,
Steve, Emily, Ariel _______________________________________________ Gnso-epdp-idn-team mailing list Gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-idn-team
Yes indeed. Thanks for the correction Justine. Can’t believe it is February already! Thanks to Michael who provided input. We look forwarding to hearing feedback from the rest of the EPDP Team. Best Regards, Ariel On Feb 9, 2022, at 5:31 AM, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all, I believe Ariel meant to say, .... ... Please provide any input/suggestion for the draft outcome language on the mailing list by Tuesday, 22 February. Any substantive comments will be discussed during the EPDP Team meeting in about two weeks. Cheers, Justine On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 08:28, Donna@registry.godaddy <Donna@registry.godaddy> wrote: Hi All Just to follow on from Ariel’s email: consideration and input on the language drafted for A5 and A6 by the represented groups of this EPDP Team is really important to our work. Rather than rely on the assumption that no comment means agreement, I’d prefer to have each represented group actively confirm their agreement if that is indeed the case and if not, provide comments/input so that we can discuss areas of contention and find agreeable language for all to the extent possible. Thanks Donna From: Gnso-epdp-idn-team <gnso-epdp-idn-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-idn-team-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Ariel Liang Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 2:22 AM To: gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Draft Outcome: Charter Questions A5 & A6 Caution: This email is from an external sender. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Forward suspicious emails to isitbad@. Dear All, Please find the draft outcome language for charter questions A5 and A6 on this google doc, pp.6-11: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bt0LT45UaLynFNverh1nJhyvq6q6NxgSFAOnOp2L... [nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fdocs.google.com*2Fdocument*2Fd*2F1Bt0LT45UaLynFNverh1nJhyvq6q6NxgSFAOnOp2LG44*2Fedit*3Fusp*3Dsharing&data=04*7C01*7Cdonna*40registry.godaddy*7Cec5678bdab8847af7e3508d9eb1f22eb*7Cd5f1622b14a345a6b069003f8dc4851f*7C0*7C0*7C637799343064218162*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C2000&sdata=6fPiesIPToRIeyAdAjFAR5A5ke*2F8N*2FaJYCHk6L*2FpHAI*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!PtGJab4!qlw4jbyAlBNsKHipAPAQyrXcgR0OvX80CNKES6scMkYoWjHn5VlldorI0opjc5TKJJxFu_Y$> (it is also posted on the wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/XwyHCg [nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fcommunity.icann.org*2Fx*2FXwyHCg&data=04*7C01*7Cdonna*40registry.godaddy*7Cec5678bdab8847af7e3508d9eb1f22eb*7Cd5f1622b14a345a6b069003f8dc4851f*7C0*7C0*7C637799343064218162*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C2000&sdata=rNiJoEb58x4UtCcXq8sfOGo9P8VdPACutD9GY0RcuTk*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!PtGJab4!qlw4jbyAlBNsKHipAPAQyrXcgR0OvX80CNKES6scMkYoWjHn5VlldorI0opjc5TKv8pnu_I$>). Following the agreed format, the draft outcome language includes the following components: * Brief answer to the charter question * Recommendations and implementation guidance * Rationale for recommendations and implementation guidance We would like to highlight the following elements: * Recommendation 1.5 under A5 (p.6): this proposed recommendation may be revisited after the EPDP Team tackles other charter questions; additional details may need to be fleshed out. * Recommendation 1.6 under A6 (p.9): please pay particular attention to the proposed definition of “grandfathering” and provide input, if any. Please provide any input/suggestion for the draft outcome language on the mailing list by Tuesday, 22 January. Any substantive comments will be discussed during the EPDP Team meeting in about two weeks. Best Regards, Steve, Emily, Ariel _______________________________________________ Gnso-epdp-idn-team mailing list Gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-idn-team
Hi Ariel, Steve, and Emily, thanks for the work of drafting the text. In general I have no objections to the draft. I found the following small items: * footnote 15: "For the scripts with allocatable variant labels, ICANN org staff ran them through the RZ-LGR to see how many variants are created." should be changed to "For the scripts with allocatable variant labels, ICANN org staff ran all existing gTLD labels through the RZ-LGR to see how many variants are created." It was not the scripts that have been run through the RZ-LGR, but the existing labels. * Implementation Guidance 1.9: You usually put "(if any)" after "delegated and allocated variant labels", I guess it should be added here, too. * Last paragraph of page 10: "The existing registry operator will be able to continue to operate the affected TLD and its delegated and allocated variant labels (if any)" I guess, for clarification, we should add something in the way of "though it will not be allowed to apply for any new variants unless those variants adhere to the updated version of the RZ-LGR." This is to make sure grandfathering really only covers delegated or allocated variants, but it does not give the gTLD the permit to add apply for further variants that would be valid with the old RZ-LGR but are invalid with the new version. Best regards, Michael -- ____________________________________________________________________ | | | knipp | Knipp Medien und Kommunikation GmbH ------- Technologiepark Martin-Schmeisser-Weg 9 44227 Dortmund Germany Dipl.-Informatiker Fon: +49 231 9703-0 Fax: +49 231 9703-200 Dr. Michael Bauland SIP: Michael.Bauland@knipp.de Software Development E-mail: Michael.Bauland@knipp.de Register Court: Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 13728 Chief Executive Officers: Dietmar Knipp, Elmar Knipp
Hi all, Just recording that NCSG has no objection to the draft outcome on A5 & A6. Regards, Tomslin On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, 3:22 am Ariel Liang, <ariel.liang@icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Please find the draft outcome language for charter questions A5 and A6 on this google doc, pp.6-11: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bt0LT45UaLynFNverh1nJhyvq6q6NxgSFAOnOp2L... (it is also posted on the wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/XwyHCg).
Following the agreed format, the draft outcome language includes the following components:
- Brief answer to the charter question - Recommendations and implementation guidance - Rationale for recommendations and implementation guidance
We would like to highlight the following elements:
- *Recommendation 1.5 under A5* (p.6): this proposed recommendation may be revisited after the EPDP Team tackles other charter questions; additional details may need to be fleshed out. - *Recommendation 1.6 under A6* (p.9): please pay particular attention to the proposed definition of “grandfathering” and provide input, if any.
Please provide any input/suggestion for the draft outcome language on the *mailing list* by *Tuesday, 22 January*. Any substantive comments will be discussed during the EPDP Team meeting in about two weeks.
Best Regards,
Steve, Emily, Ariel _______________________________________________ Gnso-epdp-idn-team mailing list Gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-idn-team
Ariel cc as above Good evening; thank you for the opportunity to input into this important debate; and thank you for being flexible with the response deadline. Would like, for GAC to endorse the draft responses to the Charter Questions A5 and A6. Would make the following observations: 1). In general the GAC seeks, along with many others, an enhanced opportunity for multilingualism on the Internet; and thus an IDN process which, within technical constraints, is as flexible and attractive (to vendors) as possible; 2). That while we should take note, and learn from all the excellent work that has taken place previously, we should be innovative and ambitious in our work to help enhance the adoption of IDNs; *Specifically on A5: * - Completely agree we should not, in any sense, set arbitrary limits on variants; this would be very negative; - Agree that "Guidance" would, of course, be useful. *Specifically on A6: * - It would be very negative indeed, as noted in the WG response, to have a situation where a varian is invalidated through no action on the applicant's behalf; - Ay potential issue, necessitating, a change to RZ-LGR should be publicised well in advance with necessary information communicated to all interested parties; - Completely agree that grandfathering has to apply. many regards Nigel On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 22:27, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Just recording that NCSG has no objection to the draft outcome on A5 & A6.
Regards, Tomslin
On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, 3:22 am Ariel Liang, <ariel.liang@icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Please find the draft outcome language for charter questions A5 and A6 on this google doc, pp.6-11: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bt0LT45UaLynFNverh1nJhyvq6q6NxgSFAOnOp2L... (it is also posted on the wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/XwyHCg).
Following the agreed format, the draft outcome language includes the following components:
- Brief answer to the charter question - Recommendations and implementation guidance - Rationale for recommendations and implementation guidance
We would like to highlight the following elements:
- *Recommendation 1.5 under A5* (p.6): this proposed recommendation may be revisited after the EPDP Team tackles other charter questions; additional details may need to be fleshed out. - *Recommendation 1.6 under A6* (p.9): please pay particular attention to the proposed definition of “grandfathering” and provide input, if any.
Please provide any input/suggestion for the draft outcome language on the *mailing list* by *Tuesday, 22 January*. Any substantive comments will be discussed during the EPDP Team meeting in about two weeks.
Best Regards,
Steve, Emily, Ariel _______________________________________________ Gnso-epdp-idn-team mailing list Gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-idn-team
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