CPH input on Face to Face planning
Janis and leadership team, and behalf of the CPH members, I'm sending our input for the Face to Face planning. Thank you, Marc CPH Input for Face to Face planning: * Do NOT waste plenary time wordsmithing language. At previous face to face meetings there has been a tendency to spend a lot of time trying to tweak language on the fly to make it acceptable to all groups. If changes are needed to language, it is a better use of time to do so during a break out or in small groups. * Don't turn the F2F into a 3 day long plenary call sitting around a table. We should take advantage of being in one location to the greatest extent possible, maximizing breakout sessions, small group discussions and team caucuses. Staff should understand what additional facilities are available for having small group discussions. * Allow time to caucus among groups... and across groups. This is especially true when groups are being asked to agree to a proposal or come up with a compromise to differing positions. * Use Zoom to manage the queue! At previous face to face meetings Zoom hasn't been used to manage the queue inevitably causing confusion and issues. We are all used to using Zoom, let's stick with that for queue management.
Strong support. Alan On January 25, 2020 10:42:59 PM EST, "Anderson, Marc via Gnso-epdp-team" <gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> wrote: Janis and leadership team, and behalf of the CPH members, I’m sending our input for the Face to Face planning. Thank you, Marc CPH Input for Face to Face planning: * Do NOT waste plenary time wordsmithing language. At previous face to face meetings there has been a tendency to spend a lot of time trying to tweak language on the fly to make it acceptable to all groups. If changes are needed to language, it is a better use of time to do so during a break out or in small groups. * Don’t turn the F2F into a 3 day long plenary call sitting around a table. We should take advantage of being in one location to the greatest extent possible, maximizing breakout sessions, small group discussions and team caucuses. Staff should understand what additional facilities are available for having small group discussions. * Allow time to caucus among groups… and across groups. This is especially true when groups are being asked to agree to a proposal or come up with a compromise to differing positions. * Use Zoom to manage the queue! At previous face to face meetings Zoom hasn’t been used to manage the queue inevitably causing confusion and issues. We are all used to using Zoom, let's stick with that for queue management. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
We support this approach. Perhaps it’s an occupational hazard of being an attorney and/or seeing enough IRTs in action, but policy words matter. One person’s perceived wordsmithing could be another person addressing a dealbreaker. With that said, we commit to avoiding unnecessary wordsmithing, and to using the tools and approach suggested by our CPH friends to make the most of our time together. Brian J. King Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs MarkMonitor / Part of Clarivate Analytics Phone: +1 (443) 761-3726 brian.king@markmonitor.com On Jan 26, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: Agreed. Stephanie On 2020-01-25 23:51, Alan Greenberg wrote:
Words ARE important, but having one person suggesting a change that gets made live in the doc, and then waiting 10 minutes to be called on to say it is not acceptable is poor use of time. Alan On January 26, 2020 12:38:49 PM EST, "King, Brian via Gnso-epdp-team" <gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> wrote: We support this approach. Perhaps it’s an occupational hazard of being an attorney and/or seeing enough IRTs in action, but policy words matter. One person’s perceived wordsmithing could be another person addressing a dealbreaker. With that said, we commit to avoiding unnecessary wordsmithing, and to using the tools and approach suggested by our CPH friends to make the most of our time together. Brian J. King Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs MarkMonitor / Part of Clarivate Analytics Phone: +1 (443) 761-3726 brian.king@markmonitor.com On Jan 26, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: Agreed. Stephanie On 2020-01-25 23:51, Alan Greenberg wrote:
+1 From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Stephanie Perrin Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 9:13 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] CPH input on Face to Face planning Agreed. Stephanie On 2020-01-25 23:51, Alan Greenberg wrote: Strong support. Alan On January 25, 2020 10:42:59 PM EST, "Anderson, Marc via Gnso-epdp-team" <gnso-epdp-team@icann.org><mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> wrote: Janis and leadership team, and behalf of the CPH members, I’m sending our input for the Face to Face planning. Thank you, Marc CPH Input for Face to Face planning: 1. Do NOT waste plenary time wordsmithing language. At previous face to face meetings there has been a tendency to spend a lot of time trying to tweak language on the fly to make it acceptable to all groups. If changes are needed to language, it is a better use of time to do so during a break out or in small groups. 1. Don’t turn the F2F into a 3 day long plenary call sitting around a table. We should take advantage of being in one location to the greatest extent possible, maximizing breakout sessions, small group discussions and team caucuses. Staff should understand what additional facilities are available for having small group discussions. 1. Allow time to caucus among groups… and across groups. This is especially true when groups are being asked to agree to a proposal or come up with a compromise to differing positions. 1. Use Zoom to manage the queue! At previous face to face meetings Zoom hasn’t been used to manage the queue inevitably causing confusion and issues. We are all used to using Zoom, let's stick with that for queue management. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ Gnso-epdp-team mailing list Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmm.icann.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fgnso-epdp-team&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7Cff968ae826744bdc3a8d08d7a282feee%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637156555815593322&sdata=k3Lly%2BIZXw8v%2BSE3tuyXXkbWhbjUBf%2FORgIrgbszrOo%3D&reserved=0> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fprivacy%2Fpolicy&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7Cff968ae826744bdc3a8d08d7a282feee%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637156555815593322&sdata=RNSomaRlBjvIqs1HrqieEYpWzH5fQIM4nadHCKJkqYc%3D&reserved=0>) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fprivacy%2Ftos&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7Cff968ae826744bdc3a8d08d7a282feee%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637156555815603315&sdata=tE8D7ehSpVwtUIGkOXFTz3Y6cRsaWwyrjbMLx0qFoQg%3D&reserved=0>). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Thank you, Mark for advice. Intention is to start with model and spend as much time as needed to work it out. Then we will look at GAC accreditation of public authorities proposal and then will take one by one all outstanding issues. By Wednesday noon we need to get the draft initial report agreed in principle. Sounds simple. All will depend on the desire or different groups to listen each other and work out compromise. Without that, nothing will be easy. Before hopping on the plane in GVA, I wish all of us open-mindness and wish to compromise. Everybody needs to give up something. JK On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 4:43 AM Anderson, Marc via Gnso-epdp-team < gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> wrote:
Janis and leadership team, and behalf of the CPH members, I’m sending our input for the Face to Face planning.
Thank you,
Marc
CPH Input for Face to Face planning:
- Do NOT waste plenary time wordsmithing language. At previous face to face meetings there has been a tendency to spend a lot of time trying to tweak language on the fly to make it acceptable to all groups. If changes are needed to language, it is a better use of time to do so during a break out or in small groups.
- Don’t turn the F2F into a 3 day long plenary call sitting around a table. We should take advantage of being in one location to the greatest extent possible, maximizing breakout sessions, small group discussions and team caucuses. Staff should understand what additional facilities are available for having small group discussions.
- Allow time to caucus among groups… and across groups. This is especially true when groups are being asked to agree to a proposal or come up with a compromise to differing positions.
- Use Zoom to manage the queue! At previous face to face meetings Zoom hasn’t been used to manage the queue inevitably causing confusion and issues. We are all used to using Zoom, let's stick with that for queue management.
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participants (6)
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Alan Greenberg -
Anderson, Marc -
Janis Karklins -
King, Brian -
Mark Svancarek (CELA) -
Stephanie Perrin