Volker, case 2 *is* a potential use case. You may not think it likely that a user will be able to make a sufficiently good case, and perhaps you are correct. Or not. We explicitly say that this is not one that could likely be handled in an automated way. Perhaps Case 1 SHOULD be LEA, but in reality, the effort is shared among many players and consumer-oriented entities are among them. Alan At 11/07/2019 09:29 AM, Volker Greimann wrote: Case 2 seems to be a bit far fetched and based on a discussion that has been done to death in various fora and WGs on ICANN previously. Do we really want to continue beating this dead horse? If a user wants to verify a site he wants to do business with, he can check the information on that site or in the SSL Certificate. If neither are present, that should tell any sensible user enough. There is absolutely no need for whois access for this purpose. Case 1 seems to refer to a case that is better handled by LEAs. -- Volker A. Greimann General Counsel and Policy Manager KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH T: +49 6894 9396901 M: +49 6894 9396851 F: +49 6894 9396851 W: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net/> Key-Systems GmbH is a company registered at the local court of Saarbruecken, Germany with the registration no. HR B 18835 CEO: Alexander Siffrin Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358. Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaig...> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:26 AM Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg<mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg>> wrote: Dear Team, Please find attached two use cases in relation to consumer protection. Apologies for being late and for any inconvenience this may cause. Best Hadia Eng. Hadia Elminiawi (M.Sc.) Director, DNS-Entrepreneurship Center [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description] [logo] _______________________________________________ Gnso-epdp-team mailing list Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="image002.jpg" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image002.jpg" Content-ID: <16be135cd815b006a1> X-Attachment-Id: 16be135cd815b006a1 Content-Type: image/png; name="image004.png" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image004.png" Content-ID: <16be135cd837745b42> X-Attachment-Id: 16be135cd837745b42 _______________________________________________ Gnso-epdp-team mailing list Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.