George: In the pre-call this morning Petter and I agreed that more background should be provided on how the WG had reached initial decisions. Specific suggestions for fleshing it out can be discussed on today's call. Best, Philip Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey -----Original Message----- From: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:49 AM To: George Kirikos; gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Agenda and draft document for WG call on Wednesday 19 November Hi George, thanks for the initial feedback. In rereading the draft, staff agrees that more context and background information will likely be necessary. One thought to bear in mind is that we depend on WG members who are involved in their SG/C to take an active role in briefing and updating their groups on our work. In this case, we would suggest adding an appendix to the letter summarizing the reasons for the recent INGO decision as well as providing some basic background on the immunity and other issues. We do advise, however, sending out some form of solicitation sooner rather than later, as this is a required step in the PDP Manual :) I hope this helps clarify things somewhat, and look forward to the group discussion coming up! Cheers Mary ________________________________________ From: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:42 AM To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Agenda and draft document for WG call on Wednesday 19 November Hi folks, I'm a little bit concerned about the draft letter, because it does not include any background information concerning our preliminary findings and reasoning. In other words, it provides very little context for the input. For example, comment/input on mutual jurisdiction and/or immunity issues, without having seen that US State Department document would tend to be uninformed input. Similarly, our work in clarifying the differences between IGOs and INGOs isn't really summarized in that latter. So, while I agree we need to obtain input from GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies (as required by the PDP manual), I'm not sure about the timing, and the context (i.e. whether there should be a preliminary document published first by the working group; I'm not sure we're ready to do so yet). Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Dear WG members,
Here is the proposed agenda for the next WG call on Wednesday 19 November, to be chaired by Petter:
Roll Call/Updates to SOI Updates on Action Items from the last WG call (staff/Mason Cole) Discussion of request for input from GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies (required by the PDP Manual), and from other SO/ACs (suggested/encouraged in the PDP Manual) Next steps
Please also find attached a draft letter for discussion under Agenda Item #3. Please note that this draft was prepared by staff with a view toward facilitating the WG's discussion on the topic. It has not yet been reviewed by the WG co-chairs, who may have their own suggestions and views that they will share with the group. Please feel free also to share your thoughts and comments.
As usual, the agenda and document have also been uploaded to the WG wiki for your easy reference: https://community.icann.org/x/WjjxAg.
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
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