Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
It has been nearly a week since this mailing list for the PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs has been created, and no one has posted. So, I thought I'd get the ball rolling with a "roll call." If you're a member of this mailing list, you'd have received instructions regarding creating a Statement of Interest (SOI) page. Once you've done that, feel free to reply to this email thread, with a link to your SOI, and that can serve as a "roll call" and introduction to everyone else that's participating. My own SOI is at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/George+Kirikos+SOI Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
Dear George, Thank you so much for starting the ball rolling, and a warm welcome to you and everyone who has signed up so far to this Working Group! ICANN staff will be working with Petter Rindforth GNSO Councilor who has agreed to serve as the GNSO Council liaison to this Working Group and who will be the interim chair until the group selects its permanent chair(s) to set up an initial meeting for the group soon. The GNSO Council is meeting later this week to discuss a request from the ICANN Board¹s New gTLD Program Committee in respect of the outstanding (i.e. not yet adopted by the Board) recommendations of the original PDP Working Group for overall top and second level protections for international organizations. We will consult with Petter as to appropriate timing for the first meeting of this group following the GNSO Council discussion, and revert to you all soon. In the meantime, do remember to fill and send in your SOIs and please feel free to introduce yourselves via email to this list as George has kindly done. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2014 at 6:34 AM To: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
It has been nearly a week since this mailing list for the PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs has been created, and no one has posted. So, I thought I'd get the ball rolling with a "roll call."
If you're a member of this mailing list, you'd have received instructions regarding creating a Statement of Interest (SOI) page. Once you've done that, feel free to reply to this email thread, with a link to your SOI, and that can serve as a "roll call" and introduction to everyone else that's participating.
My own SOI is at:
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/George+Kirikos+SOI
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
Mary: I will provide my SOI shortly. However, in just reviewing the draft resolution to be voted upon by the GNSO Council this week https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+24+July+2014 , I note this portion: 3.The GNSO Council requests that the IGO-INGO PDP WG provide the Council with its recommendation in relation to the proposed amendment/modification within forty-five (45) days of the reconvening of the WG; 4. The GNSO Council requests that, within seven (7) calendar days of this resolution, ICANN staff publish the proposed amendment/modification for public comment for a period of not less than thirty (30) days; and Is my reading correct that the lifespan of this WG, as proposed in the draft resolution, is to be a scant 6.5 weeks, and that ICANN staff would propose amendments of the policy for IGOs/INGOs next week, before the WG has done any substantive work? There is no possible way the WG could consider all of the complex issues (pointed out in the staff report on this matter) in a month-and-a-half, and what is the point of it if staff are to draft amendments/modifications before the WG has proposed anything? Very best, Philip Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:22 AM To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs Dear George, Thank you so much for starting the ball rolling, and a warm welcome to you and everyone who has signed up so far to this Working Group! ICANN staff will be working with Petter Rindforth - GNSO Councilor who has agreed to serve as the GNSO Council liaison to this Working Group and who will be the interim chair until the group selects its permanent chair(s) - to set up an initial meeting for the group soon. The GNSO Council is meeting later this week to discuss a request from the ICANN Board's New gTLD Program Committee in respect of the outstanding (i.e. not yet adopted by the Board) recommendations of the original PDP Working Group for overall top and second level protections for international organizations. We will consult with Petter as to appropriate timing for the first meeting of this group following the GNSO Council discussion, and revert to you all soon. In the meantime, do remember to fill and send in your SOIs and please feel free to introduce yourselves via email to this list as George has kindly done. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com<mailto:icann@leap.com>> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2014 at 6:34 AM To: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs It has been nearly a week since this mailing list for the PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs has been created, and no one has posted. So, I thought I'd get the ball rolling with a "roll call." If you're a member of this mailing list, you'd have received instructions regarding creating a Statement of Interest (SOI) page. Once you've done that, feel free to reply to this email thread, with a link to your SOI, and that can serve as a "roll call" and introduction to everyone else that's participating. My own SOI is at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/George+Kirikos+SOI Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3986/7783 - Release Date: 07/02/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date.
Hello Phil and all, Thanks for the opportunity to clarify the various "live" issues are surrounding protections for IGOs (international governmental organizations) and INGOs (international non-governmental organizations). The short answer to Phil¹s question is, thankfully, no the Working Group that the proposed GNSO Council resolution makes reference to is not this WG but, rather, the original PDP WG that between October 2012 and November 2013 produced consensus recommendations on a number of possible top and second level protections for IGOs and INGOs. One noteworthy point for this new WG that you¹ve volunteered for is that (as some of you know) the basis for our work actually stems from one of the consensus recommendations of that original PDP WG. This is the question of dispute resolution, at the second level, for IGOs and INGOs viz. should the existing UDRP and/or URS be amended to more fully accommodate the particular circumstances and needs of these types of organizations, or should a separate, specific procedure be developed for their use (if at all)? The original PDP WG had reached consensus that this question should be explored further, first through an Issue Report and then, if voted for by the GNSO Council, through a separate PDP. Our WG is a direct result therefore of the GNSO Council¹s accepting that original recommendation, calling for an Issue Report (published in March 2014) and then voting (in June 2014) to initiate this PDP and create this current WG. Returning to Phil¹s question, basically the GNSO Council¹s discussion this Thursday will not involve the policy question that has been posed to this WG. The Council¹s discussion will focus on other issues stemming from the original PDP recommendations instead. As such, if the Council decides to reconvene the original PDP WG (as called for in the draft resolution), there may be a slight impact on our WG in terms of timing of our initial meetings but not necessarily in terms of substance. I hope this helps! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>, "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Mary:
I will provide my SOI shortly.
However, in just reviewing the draft resolution to be voted upon by the GNSO Council this week https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+24+July+2014 , I note this portion:
3.The GNSO Council requests that the IGO-INGO PDP WG provide the Council with its recommendation in relation to the proposed amendment/modification within forty-five (45) days of the reconvening of the WG; 4. The GNSO Council requests that, within seven (7) calendar days of this resolution, ICANN staff publish the proposed amendment/modification for public comment for a period of not less than thirty (30) days; and
Is my reading correct that the lifespan of this WG, as proposed in the draft resolution, is to be a scant 6.5 weeks, and that ICANN staff would propose amendments of the policy for IGOs/INGOs next week, before the WG has done any substantive work? There is no possible way the WG could consider all of the complex issues (pointed out in the staff report on this matter) in a month-and-a-half, and what is the point of it if staff are to draft amendments/modifications before the WG has proposed anything?
Very best, Philip
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell
Twitter: @VlawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
From: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:22 AM To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Dear George,
Thank you so much for starting the ball rolling, and a warm welcome to you and everyone who has signed up so far to this Working Group!
ICANN staff will be working with Petter Rindforth GNSO Councilor who has agreed to serve as the GNSO Council liaison to this Working Group and who will be the interim chair until the group selects its permanent chair(s) to set up an initial meeting for the group soon. The GNSO Council is meeting later this week to discuss a request from the ICANN Board¹s New gTLD Program Committee in respect of the outstanding (i.e. not yet adopted by the Board) recommendations of the original PDP Working Group for overall top and second level protections for international organizations. We will consult with Petter as to appropriate timing for the first meeting of this group following the GNSO Council discussion, and revert to you all soon.
In the meantime, do remember to fill and send in your SOIs and please feel free to introduce yourselves via email to this list as George has kindly done.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4892
Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2014 at 6:34 AM To: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
It has been nearly a week since this mailing list for the PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs has been created, and no one has posted. So, I thought I'd get the ball rolling with a "roll call."
If you're a member of this mailing list, you'd have received instructions regarding creating a Statement of Interest (SOI) page. Once you've done that, feel free to reply to this email thread, with a link to your SOI, and that can serve as a "roll call" and introduction to everyone else that's participating.
My own SOI is at:
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/George+Kirikos+SOI
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
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Thanks for the clarification. I may get back with further questions. Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/Cell Twitter: @VLawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey Sent from my iPad On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:10 AM, "Mary Wong" <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hello Phil and all, Thanks for the opportunity to clarify the various "live" issues are surrounding protections for IGOs (international governmental organizations) and INGOs (international non-governmental organizations). The short answer to Phil’s question is, thankfully, no – the Working Group that the proposed GNSO Council resolution makes reference to is not this WG but, rather, the original PDP WG that between October 2012 and November 2013 produced consensus recommendations on a number of possible top and second level protections for IGOs and INGOs. One noteworthy point for this new WG that you’ve volunteered for is that (as some of you know) the basis for our work actually stems from one of the consensus recommendations of that original PDP WG. This is the question of dispute resolution, at the second level, for IGOs and INGOs – viz. should the existing UDRP and/or URS be amended to more fully accommodate the particular circumstances and needs of these types of organizations, or should a separate, specific procedure be developed for their use (if at all)? The original PDP WG had reached consensus that this question should be explored further, first through an Issue Report and then, if voted for by the GNSO Council, through a separate PDP. Our WG is a direct result therefore of the GNSO Council’s accepting that original recommendation, calling for an Issue Report (published in March 2014) and then voting (in June 2014) to initiate this PDP and create this current WG. Returning to Phil’s question, basically the GNSO Council’s discussion this Thursday will not involve the policy question that has been posed to this WG. The Council’s discussion will focus on other issues stemming from the original PDP recommendations instead. As such, if the Council decides to reconvene the original PDP WG (as called for in the draft resolution), there may be a slight impact on our WG in terms of timing of our initial meetings but not necessarily in terms of substance. I hope this helps! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs Mary: I will provide my SOI shortly. However, in just reviewing the draft resolution to be voted upon by the GNSO Council this week https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+24+July+2014 , I note this portion: 3.The GNSO Council requests that the IGO-INGO PDP WG provide the Council with its recommendation in relation to the proposed amendment/modification within forty-five (45) days of the reconvening of the WG; 4. The GNSO Council requests that, within seven (7) calendar days of this resolution, ICANN staff publish the proposed amendment/modification for public comment for a period of not less than thirty (30) days; and Is my reading correct that the lifespan of this WG, as proposed in the draft resolution, is to be a scant 6.5 weeks, and that ICANN staff would propose amendments of the policy for IGOs/INGOs next week, before the WG has done any substantive work? There is no possible way the WG could consider all of the complex issues (pointed out in the staff report on this matter) in a month-and-a-half, and what is the point of it if staff are to draft amendments/modifications before the WG has proposed anything? Very best, Philip Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:22 AM To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs Dear George, Thank you so much for starting the ball rolling, and a warm welcome to you and everyone who has signed up so far to this Working Group! ICANN staff will be working with Petter Rindforth – GNSO Councilor who has agreed to serve as the GNSO Council liaison to this Working Group and who will be the interim chair until the group selects its permanent chair(s) – to set up an initial meeting for the group soon. The GNSO Council is meeting later this week to discuss a request from the ICANN Board’s New gTLD Program Committee in respect of the outstanding (i.e. not yet adopted by the Board) recommendations of the original PDP Working Group for overall top and second level protections for international organizations. We will consult with Petter as to appropriate timing for the first meeting of this group following the GNSO Council discussion, and revert to you all soon. In the meantime, do remember to fill and send in your SOIs and please feel free to introduce yourselves via email to this list as George has kindly done. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com<mailto:icann@leap.com>> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2014 at 6:34 AM To: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs It has been nearly a week since this mailing list for the PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs has been created, and no one has posted. So, I thought I'd get the ball rolling with a "roll call." If you're a member of this mailing list, you'd have received instructions regarding creating a Statement of Interest (SOI) page. Once you've done that, feel free to reply to this email thread, with a link to your SOI, and that can serve as a "roll call" and introduction to everyone else that's participating. My own SOI is at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/George+Kirikos+SOI Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3986/7783 - Release Date: 07/02/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. _______________________________________________ Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp
Aso thia WG assumes the recommendation will be adopted and we are dealing with UDRP conflict related issues only? Where is the WG issue relative to the IGO issue as a whole. Working from a presumption not only begs the question but will be used to sustain the original presumption (that NGOs should bne protected). Sincerely, Paul Raynor Keating, Esq. Law.es <http://law.es/> Tel. +34 93 368 0247 (Spain) Tel. +447531400177 (UK) Fax. (Europe) +34 93 396 0810 Fax. (US)(415) 358.4450 Skype: Prk-Spain email: Paul@law.es THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL IS CONFIDENTIAL AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION SUBJECT TO THE ATTORNEY/CLIENT OR WORK-PRODUCT PRIVILEGE. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, NO WAIVER OF PRIVILEGE IS MADE OR INTENDED AND YOU ARE REQUESTED TO PLEASE DELETE THE EMAIL AND ANY ATTACHMENTS. Circular 230 Disclosure: To assure compliance with Treasury Department rules governing tax practice, we hereby inform you that any advice contained herein (including in any attachment) (1) was not written or intended to be used, and cannot be used, by you or any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding any penalties that may be imposed on you or any taxpayer and (2) may not be used or referred to by you or any other person in connection with promoting, marketing or recommending to another person any transaction or matter addressed herein. NOTHING CONTAINED IN THIS EMAIL SHALL CONSTITUTE THE FORMATION OF AN ATTORNEY/CLIENT RELATIONSHIP; SUCH A RELATIONSHIP MAY BE FORMED WITH THIS FIRM AND ATTORNEY ONLY BY SEPARATE FORMAL WRITTEN ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH THIS IS NOT. IN THE ABSENCE OF SUCH AN AGREEMENT, NOTHING CONTAINED HEREIN SHALL CONSTITUTE LEGAL ADVICE From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 4:15 PM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Thanks for the clarification.
I may get back with further questions.
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/Cell
Twitter: @VLawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:10 AM, "Mary Wong" <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello Phil and all,
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify the various "live" issues are surrounding protections for IGOs (international governmental organizations) and INGOs (international non-governmental organizations). The short answer to Phil¹s question is, thankfully, no the Working Group that the proposed GNSO Council resolution makes reference to is not this WG but, rather, the original PDP WG that between October 2012 and November 2013 produced consensus recommendations on a number of possible top and second level protections for IGOs and INGOs.
One noteworthy point for this new WG that you¹ve volunteered for is that (as some of you know) the basis for our work actually stems from one of the consensus recommendations of that original PDP WG. This is the question of dispute resolution, at the second level, for IGOs and INGOs viz. should the existing UDRP and/or URS be amended to more fully accommodate the particular circumstances and needs of these types of organizations, or should a separate, specific procedure be developed for their use (if at all)? The original PDP WG had reached consensus that this question should be explored further, first through an Issue Report and then, if voted for by the GNSO Council, through a separate PDP. Our WG is a direct result therefore of the GNSO Council¹s accepting that original recommendation, calling for an Issue Report (published in March 2014) and then voting (in June 2014) to initiate this PDP and create this current WG.
Returning to Phil¹s question, basically the GNSO Council¹s discussion this Thursday will not involve the policy question that has been posed to this WG. The Council¹s discussion will focus on other issues stemming from the original PDP recommendations instead. As such, if the Council decides to reconvene the original PDP WG (as called for in the draft resolution), there may be a slight impact on our WG in terms of timing of our initial meetings but not necessarily in terms of substance.
I hope this helps!
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>, "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Mary:
I will provide my SOI shortly.
However, in just reviewing the draft resolution to be voted upon by the GNSO Council this week https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+24+July+2014 , I note this portion:
3.The GNSO Council requests that the IGO-INGO PDP WG provide the Council with its recommendation in relation to the proposed amendment/modification within forty-five (45) days of the reconvening of the WG; 4. The GNSO Council requests that, within seven (7) calendar days of this resolution, ICANN staff publish the proposed amendment/modification for public comment for a period of not less than thirty (30) days; and
Is my reading correct that the lifespan of this WG, as proposed in the draft resolution, is to be a scant 6.5 weeks, and that ICANN staff would propose amendments of the policy for IGOs/INGOs next week, before the WG has done any substantive work? There is no possible way the WG could consider all of the complex issues (pointed out in the staff report on this matter) in a month-and-a-half, and what is the point of it if staff are to draft amendments/modifications before the WG has proposed anything?
Very best, Philip
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell
Twitter: @VlawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
From:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:22 AM To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Dear George,
Thank you so much for starting the ball rolling, and a warm welcome to you and everyone who has signed up so far to this Working Group!
ICANN staff will be working with Petter Rindforth GNSO Councilor who has agreed to serve as the GNSO Council liaison to this Working Group and who will be the interim chair until the group selects its permanent chair(s) to set up an initial meeting for the group soon. The GNSO Council is meeting later this week to discuss a request from the ICANN Board¹s New gTLD Program Committee in respect of the outstanding (i.e. not yet adopted by the Board) recommendations of the original PDP Working Group for overall top and second level protections for international organizations. We will consult with Petter as to appropriate timing for the first meeting of this group following the GNSO Council discussion, and revert to you all soon.
In the meantime, do remember to fill and send in your SOIs and please feel free to introduce yourselves via email to this list as George has kindly done.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4892
Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2014 at 6:34 AM To: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
It has been nearly a week since this mailing list for the PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs has been created, and no one has posted. So, I thought I'd get the ball rolling with a "roll call."
If you're a member of this mailing list, you'd have received instructions regarding creating a Statement of Interest (SOI) page. Once you've done that, feel free to reply to this email thread, with a link to your SOI, and that can serve as a "roll call" and introduction to everyone else that's participating.
My own SOI is at:
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/George+Kirikos+SOI
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
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Hello Paul and everyone, In initiating the current PDP and this Working Group, the GNSO Council was careful not to presume either that the existing dispute resolution processes should be changed, or that a new procedure would be created. For your reference, the specific language used by the Council in its resolution was as follows: "The GNSO Council hereby initiates a PDP to evaluate: (i) whether the UDRP and/or URS should be amended (to enable their access and use by IGOs and INGOs whose identifiers had been recommended for protection by the IGO-INGO PDP WG) and if so, in what way; or (ii) whether a separate narrowly-tailored procedure modeled on these curative rights protection measures to apply only to protected IGO and INGO identifiers should be developed.² The Charter as approved by the GNSO Council following its initiation of the PDP was also similarly neutral: http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/igo-ingo-crp-access-charter-24jun14-en.pdf. The Charter also explicitly lists certain preliminary activities and research that ought to be conducted by the WG in order to assist with its evaluation of whether changes or a new procedure is needed. On the general question of the relationship between this WG¹s work and the issue of IGO-INGO protections as a whole, both the Council and the Board¹s New gTLD Program Committee (NGPC) have been careful also to ³carve out² the question of second level dispute resolution (to be dealt with by this WG) from their ongoing discussions relating to the remaining GNSO consensus recommendations that are yet to be adopted by the Board (i.e. duration and nature of protections for certain Red Cross organizational names and identifiers, and for IGO acronyms). See, for example, the NGPC letter to the GNSO Council of 16 June 2014 that specifically notes the role of this WG: http://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/chalaby-to-robinson-16jun14-en.pdf and the affirmation of this point by Jonathan Robinson, GNSO Chair, in his letter to the GAC Chair of 25 June 2014: http://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/robinson-to-dryden-25jun14-en.pdf. The GNSO Council¹s intention therefore seems to be for this current WG to begin and carry on its work in accordance with the approved Charter, as would be the case with all other GNSO Working Groups. While there may be other ³moving parts² that relate to other aspects of the original PDP recommendations, the Council has indicated that these will be managed by the Council separately from the policy question that has been referred to this WG for the current PDP. I hope the above clarifies the situation. Staff will, of course, prepare all the necessary background documentation and provide an initial informational briefing to all WG members once the group commences its work, so that everyone is up to date on both the task that has been referred to this WG as well as the status of any potentially related updates on other recommendations being considered by the GNSO Council. As mentioned previously, this WG , like all other GNSO WGs, also has a Council liaison (Petter Rindforth). During the course of this PDP, should the WG have any further questions about (for example) possible implications of developments elsewhere on its work, Petter will be the primary interface between the Council and the group on these and other such questions. Again, I hope this helps! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: Paul Keating <paul@law.es> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 at 10:45 AM To: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Aso thia WG assumes the recommendation will be adopted and we are dealing with UDRP conflict related issues only?
Where is the WG issue relative to the IGO issue as a whole. Working from a presumption not only begs the question but will be used to sustain the original presumption (that NGOs should bne protected).
Sincerely,
Paul Raynor Keating, Esq.
Law.es <http://law.es/>
Tel. +34 93 368 0247 (Spain)
Tel. +447531400177 (UK)
Fax. (Europe) +34 93 396 0810
Fax. (US)(415) 358.4450
Skype: Prk-Spain
email: Paul@law.es
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From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 4:15 PM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Thanks for the clarification.
I may get back with further questions.
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/Cell
Twitter: @VLawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:10 AM, "Mary Wong" <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello Phil and all,
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify the various "live" issues are surrounding protections for IGOs (international governmental organizations) and INGOs (international non-governmental organizations). The short answer to Phil¹s question is, thankfully, no the Working Group that the proposed GNSO Council resolution makes reference to is not this WG but, rather, the original PDP WG that between October 2012 and November 2013 produced consensus recommendations on a number of possible top and second level protections for IGOs and INGOs.
One noteworthy point for this new WG that you¹ve volunteered for is that (as some of you know) the basis for our work actually stems from one of the consensus recommendations of that original PDP WG. This is the question of dispute resolution, at the second level, for IGOs and INGOs viz. should the existing UDRP and/or URS be amended to more fully accommodate the particular circumstances and needs of these types of organizations, or should a separate, specific procedure be developed for their use (if at all)? The original PDP WG had reached consensus that this question should be explored further, first through an Issue Report and then, if voted for by the GNSO Council, through a separate PDP. Our WG is a direct result therefore of the GNSO Council¹s accepting that original recommendation, calling for an Issue Report (published in March 2014) and then voting (in June 2014) to initiate this PDP and create this current WG.
Returning to Phil¹s question, basically the GNSO Council¹s discussion this Thursday will not involve the policy question that has been posed to this WG. The Council¹s discussion will focus on other issues stemming from the original PDP recommendations instead. As such, if the Council decides to reconvene the original PDP WG (as called for in the draft resolution), there may be a slight impact on our WG in terms of timing of our initial meetings but not necessarily in terms of substance.
I hope this helps!
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>, "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Mary:
I will provide my SOI shortly.
However, in just reviewing the draft resolution to be voted upon by the GNSO Council this week https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+24+July+201 4 , I note this portion:
3.The GNSO Council requests that the IGO-INGO PDP WG provide the Council with its recommendation in relation to the proposed amendment/modification within forty-five (45) days of the reconvening of the WG; 4. The GNSO Council requests that, within seven (7) calendar days of this resolution, ICANN staff publish the proposed amendment/modification for public comment for a period of not less than thirty (30) days; and
Is my reading correct that the lifespan of this WG, as proposed in the draft resolution, is to be a scant 6.5 weeks, and that ICANN staff would propose amendments of the policy for IGOs/INGOs next week, before the WG has done any substantive work? There is no possible way the WG could consider all of the complex issues (pointed out in the staff report on this matter) in a month-and-a-half, and what is the point of it if staff are to draft amendments/modifications before the WG has proposed anything?
Very best, Philip
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell
Twitter: @VlawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
From:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:22 AM To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Dear George,
Thank you so much for starting the ball rolling, and a warm welcome to you and everyone who has signed up so far to this Working Group!
ICANN staff will be working with Petter Rindforth GNSO Councilor who has agreed to serve as the GNSO Council liaison to this Working Group and who will be the interim chair until the group selects its permanent chair(s) to set up an initial meeting for the group soon. The GNSO Council is meeting later this week to discuss a request from the ICANN Board¹s New gTLD Program Committee in respect of the outstanding (i.e. not yet adopted by the Board) recommendations of the original PDP Working Group for overall top and second level protections for international organizations. We will consult with Petter as to appropriate timing for the first meeting of this group following the GNSO Council discussion, and revert to you all soon.
In the meantime, do remember to fill and send in your SOIs and please feel free to introduce yourselves via email to this list as George has kindly done.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4892
Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2014 at 6:34 AM To: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
It has been nearly a week since this mailing list for the PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs has been created, and no one has posted. So, I thought I'd get the ball rolling with a "roll call."
If you're a member of this mailing list, you'd have received instructions regarding creating a Statement of Interest (SOI) page. Once you've done that, feel free to reply to this email thread, with a link to your SOI, and that can serve as a "roll call" and introduction to everyone else that's participating.
My own SOI is at:
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/George+Kirikos+SOI
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
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Thanks Mary. I appreciate the clarification. Sincerely, Paul Raynor Keating, Esq. Law.es <http://law.es/> Tel. +34 93 368 0247 (Spain) Tel. +447531400177 (UK) Fax. (Europe) +34 93 396 0810 Fax. (US)(415) 358.4450 Skype: Prk-Spain email: Paul@law.es THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL IS CONFIDENTIAL AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION SUBJECT TO THE ATTORNEY/CLIENT OR WORK-PRODUCT PRIVILEGE. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, NO WAIVER OF PRIVILEGE IS MADE OR INTENDED AND YOU ARE REQUESTED TO PLEASE DELETE THE EMAIL AND ANY ATTACHMENTS. Circular 230 Disclosure: To assure compliance with Treasury Department rules governing tax practice, we hereby inform you that any advice contained herein (including in any attachment) (1) was not written or intended to be used, and cannot be used, by you or any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding any penalties that may be imposed on you or any taxpayer and (2) may not be used or referred to by you or any other person in connection with promoting, marketing or recommending to another person any transaction or matter addressed herein. NOTHING CONTAINED IN THIS EMAIL SHALL CONSTITUTE THE FORMATION OF AN ATTORNEY/CLIENT RELATIONSHIP; SUCH A RELATIONSHIP MAY BE FORMED WITH THIS FIRM AND ATTORNEY ONLY BY SEPARATE FORMAL WRITTEN ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH THIS IS NOT. IN THE ABSENCE OF SUCH AN AGREEMENT, NOTHING CONTAINED HEREIN SHALL CONSTITUTE LEGAL ADVICE From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 5:17 PM To: Paul Keating <paul@law.es>, Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Hello Paul and everyone,
In initiating the current PDP and this Working Group, the GNSO Council was careful not to presume either that the existing dispute resolution processes should be changed, or that a new procedure would be created. For your reference, the specific language used by the Council in its resolution was as follows:
"The GNSO Council hereby initiates a PDP to evaluate: (i) whether the UDRP and/or URS should be amended (to enable their access and use by IGOs and INGOs whose identifiers had been recommended for protection by the IGO-INGO PDP WG) and if so, in what way; or (ii) whether a separate narrowly-tailored procedure modeled on these curative rights protection measures to apply only to protected IGO and INGO identifiers should be developed.²
The Charter as approved by the GNSO Council following its initiation of the PDP was also similarly neutral: http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/igo-ingo-crp-access-charter-24jun14-en.pdf. The Charter also explicitly lists certain preliminary activities and research that ought to be conducted by the WG in order to assist with its evaluation of whether changes or a new procedure is needed.
On the general question of the relationship between this WG¹s work and the issue of IGO-INGO protections as a whole, both the Council and the Board¹s New gTLD Program Committee (NGPC) have been careful also to ³carve out² the question of second level dispute resolution (to be dealt with by this WG) from their ongoing discussions relating to the remaining GNSO consensus recommendations that are yet to be adopted by the Board (i.e. duration and nature of protections for certain Red Cross organizational names and identifiers, and for IGO acronyms). See, for example, the NGPC letter to the GNSO Council of 16 June 2014 that specifically notes the role of this WG: http://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/chalaby-to-robinson-16jun14-en.pdf and the affirmation of this point by Jonathan Robinson, GNSO Chair, in his letter to the GAC Chair of 25 June 2014: http://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/robinson-to-dryden-25jun14-en.pdf.
The GNSO Council¹s intention therefore seems to be for this current WG to begin and carry on its work in accordance with the approved Charter, as would be the case with all other GNSO Working Groups. While there may be other ³moving parts² that relate to other aspects of the original PDP recommendations, the Council has indicated that these will be managed by the Council separately from the policy question that has been referred to this WG for the current PDP.
I hope the above clarifies the situation. Staff will, of course, prepare all the necessary background documentation and provide an initial informational briefing to all WG members once the group commences its work, so that everyone is up to date on both the task that has been referred to this WG as well as the status of any potentially related updates on other recommendations being considered by the GNSO Council.
As mentioned previously, this WG , like all other GNSO WGs, also has a Council liaison (Petter Rindforth). During the course of this PDP, should the WG have any further questions about (for example) possible implications of developments elsewhere on its work, Petter will be the primary interface between the Council and the group on these and other such questions.
Again, I hope this helps!
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Paul Keating <paul@law.es> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 at 10:45 AM To: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Aso thia WG assumes the recommendation will be adopted and we are dealing with UDRP conflict related issues only?
Where is the WG issue relative to the IGO issue as a whole. Working from a presumption not only begs the question but will be used to sustain the original presumption (that NGOs should bne protected).
Sincerely,
Paul Raynor Keating, Esq.
Law.es <http://law.es/>
Tel. +34 93 368 0247 (Spain)
Tel. +447531400177 (UK)
Fax. (Europe) +34 93 396 0810
Fax. (US)(415) 358.4450
Skype: Prk-Spain
email: Paul@law.es
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL IS CONFIDENTIAL AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION SUBJECT TO THE ATTORNEY/CLIENT OR WORK-PRODUCT PRIVILEGE. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, NO WAIVER OF PRIVILEGE IS MADE OR INTENDED AND YOU ARE REQUESTED TO PLEASE DELETE THE EMAIL AND ANY ATTACHMENTS.
Circular 230 Disclosure: To assure compliance with Treasury Department rules governing tax practice, we hereby inform you that any advice contained herein (including in any attachment) (1) was not written or intended to be used, and cannot be used, by you or any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding any penalties that may be imposed on you or any taxpayer and (2) may not be used or referred to by you or any other person in connection with promoting, marketing or recommending to another person any transaction or matter addressed herein.
NOTHING CONTAINED IN THIS EMAIL SHALL CONSTITUTE THE FORMATION OF AN ATTORNEY/CLIENT RELATIONSHIP; SUCH A RELATIONSHIP MAY BE FORMED WITH THIS FIRM AND ATTORNEY ONLY BY SEPARATE FORMAL WRITTEN ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH THIS IS NOT. IN THE ABSENCE OF SUCH AN AGREEMENT, NOTHING CONTAINED HEREIN SHALL CONSTITUTE LEGAL ADVICE
From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 4:15 PM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Thanks for the clarification.
I may get back with further questions.
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/Cell
Twitter: @VLawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:10 AM, "Mary Wong" <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello Phil and all,
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify the various "live" issues are surrounding protections for IGOs (international governmental organizations) and INGOs (international non-governmental organizations). The short answer to Phil¹s question is, thankfully, no the Working Group that the proposed GNSO Council resolution makes reference to is not this WG but, rather, the original PDP WG that between October 2012 and November 2013 produced consensus recommendations on a number of possible top and second level protections for IGOs and INGOs.
One noteworthy point for this new WG that you¹ve volunteered for is that (as some of you know) the basis for our work actually stems from one of the consensus recommendations of that original PDP WG. This is the question of dispute resolution, at the second level, for IGOs and INGOs viz. should the existing UDRP and/or URS be amended to more fully accommodate the particular circumstances and needs of these types of organizations, or should a separate, specific procedure be developed for their use (if at all)? The original PDP WG had reached consensus that this question should be explored further, first through an Issue Report and then, if voted for by the GNSO Council, through a separate PDP. Our WG is a direct result therefore of the GNSO Council¹s accepting that original recommendation, calling for an Issue Report (published in March 2014) and then voting (in June 2014) to initiate this PDP and create this current WG.
Returning to Phil¹s question, basically the GNSO Council¹s discussion this Thursday will not involve the policy question that has been posed to this WG. The Council¹s discussion will focus on other issues stemming from the original PDP recommendations instead. As such, if the Council decides to reconvene the original PDP WG (as called for in the draft resolution), there may be a slight impact on our WG in terms of timing of our initial meetings but not necessarily in terms of substance.
I hope this helps!
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>, "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Mary:
I will provide my SOI shortly.
However, in just reviewing the draft resolution to be voted upon by the GNSO Council this week https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+24+July+20 14 , I note this portion:
3.The GNSO Council requests that the IGO-INGO PDP WG provide the Council with its recommendation in relation to the proposed amendment/modification within forty-five (45) days of the reconvening of the WG; 4. The GNSO Council requests that, within seven (7) calendar days of this resolution, ICANN staff publish the proposed amendment/modification for public comment for a period of not less than thirty (30) days; and
Is my reading correct that the lifespan of this WG, as proposed in the draft resolution, is to be a scant 6.5 weeks, and that ICANN staff would propose amendments of the policy for IGOs/INGOs next week, before the WG has done any substantive work? There is no possible way the WG could consider all of the complex issues (pointed out in the staff report on this matter) in a month-and-a-half, and what is the point of it if staff are to draft amendments/modifications before the WG has proposed anything?
Very best, Philip
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell
Twitter: @VlawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
From:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:22 AM To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
Dear George,
Thank you so much for starting the ball rolling, and a warm welcome to you and everyone who has signed up so far to this Working Group!
ICANN staff will be working with Petter Rindforth GNSO Councilor who has agreed to serve as the GNSO Council liaison to this Working Group and who will be the interim chair until the group selects its permanent chair(s) to set up an initial meeting for the group soon. The GNSO Council is meeting later this week to discuss a request from the ICANN Board¹s New gTLD Program Committee in respect of the outstanding (i.e. not yet adopted by the Board) recommendations of the original PDP Working Group for overall top and second level protections for international organizations. We will consult with Petter as to appropriate timing for the first meeting of this group following the GNSO Council discussion, and revert to you all soon.
In the meantime, do remember to fill and send in your SOIs and please feel free to introduce yourselves via email to this list as George has kindly done.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4892
Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2014 at 6:34 AM To: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
It has been nearly a week since this mailing list for the PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs has been created, and no one has posted. So, I thought I'd get the ball rolling with a "roll call."
If you're a member of this mailing list, you'd have received instructions regarding creating a Statement of Interest (SOI) page. Once you've done that, feel free to reply to this email thread, with a link to your SOI, and that can serve as a "roll call" and introduction to everyone else that's participating.
My own SOI is at:
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/George+Kirikos+SOI
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
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