Hi All, Thank you for the response Chuck. When I make edits from the Initial to Final, I will replace definitive with finite per the GNSO Council’s resolution. The use of definitive was a carry-over from prior deliberations and mostly used by me in error. Thank you. B Berry A. Cobb GNSO Policy Consultant @berrycobb From: Chuck [mailto:consult@cgomes.com] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 11:56 To: 'Stephane Hankins'; mail@berrycobb.com; gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org Cc: 'Jennifer Hauseman'; 'Marie-Charlotte BEAUDRY' Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo] Red Cross Reconvened WG - Upcoming Calls Thanks Stephane for the proposing the edits. Most of the edits seem non-material to me, so I see no reason they should not be made. I assume we will discuss the cases where you ask questions and/or suggest substantial edits in our upcoming meetings. Regarding your questions about the multiple uses of the word ‘definitive’ starting on page 4 and many instances thereafter, I am not sure the word adds much value. If anyone thinks it adds needed clarity, please explain. Otherwise, I wonder if we could just delete it everywhere it occurs. Chuck From: Gnso-igo-ingo <gnso-igo-ingo-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Stephane Hankins Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:14 AM To: mail@berrycobb.com; gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org Cc: Jennifer Hauseman <jhauseman@icrc.org>; Marie-Charlotte BEAUDRY <marie-charlotte.beaudry@graduateinstitute.ch> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo] Red Cross Reconvened WG - Upcoming Calls Dear Thomas, dear Berry, Dear all, Thank you to Berry for his message. Further to the recent GNSO Council session held in Panama, I am sharing herewith in track-changes our remaining suggestions and comments on the Initial Report and its Recommendations. We have also added a few minor comments on form (we would for instance recommend that the positions of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement be attributed, in the draft Report, to the “Red Cross and Red Crescent” and not simply to the Red Cross). Our main comments on the substance of the Report concern two issues: - The first is once again to recommend that the Report clearly formulate that its recommendations do not affect or bring into question the temporary protections presently accorded to those Red Cross and Red Crescent terms/identifiers that are outside of the reconvened Working Group’s purview. These include in particular the acronyms/initials of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and of the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC). - The second pertain to the reservations that have been requested by several National Societies to cover the short names “Red Cross” or “Red Crescent” in their national language(s). It is our understanding that the Working Group agreed to such protections in principle and thus, on the cumulative conditions that i) the short version of the name constitute a commonly used name/identifier of the National Society, and that ii) such short names be protected under the domestic legislation of the concerned National Society’s national State. This was in our understanding concurred to by Working Group members. It appears however that the inclusion of the short names into the list of protected strings is presented in the draft Report as not agreed. We would also recommend that the list of National Societies’ names not be referred to as “definitive” and thus, given that a procedure is foreseen (i) for corrections and (ii) for eventual additions to the list (i.e. should new National Societies be established and recognized as components of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement in the future). The dates of 26 July and 2 August at 14UTC for 1.5 hours would work for me. Pending the next telephone conference, to all a great summer season. Best regards, Stéphane Stéphane J. Hankins Legal adviser Cooperation and Coordination within the Movement International Committee of the Red Cross Tel (Prof.):++41 22 730 24 19 -----"Gnso-igo-ingo" <gnso-igo-ingo-bounces@icann.org> a écrit : ----- A : <gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org> De : Envoyé par : "Gnso-igo-ingo" Date : 09/07/2018 19:36 Objet : Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo] Red Cross Reconvened WG - Upcoming Calls It’s helpful to actually attach the report. My apologies. Berry A. Cobb 720.839.5735 <mailto:mail@berrycobb.com> mail@berrycobb.com @berrycobb From: mail@berrycobb.com [ <mailto:mail@berrycobb.com> mailto:mail@berrycobb.com] Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 10:22 To: gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org Subject: Red Cross Reconvened WG - Upcoming Calls Importance: High Hi All, Shortly, you will see calendar invites for 26 July and 2 August both at 14UTC for 1.5 hours. As you know, the public comment period will close 31 July and we only have until 6 August to submit the motion and final report for the Council’s meeting in August. For the 31st July meeting, I understand that Stephane will have several suggested edits to the report in preparation for the final version. I believe the WG can review those suggestions and review any comments submitted to the public comment forum. We will then use the 2 August meeting to review through the remaining comments submitted by the July 31 and prepare the final report. We will also review a draft of the Council motion. This will leave the 3rd through the 6th of August for any last minute non-substantive changes to the report before it is delivered. Stephane, it will be helpful if you can have your suggested edits to the report sent to the list by 20 July. This should provide ample time for the WG to review the proposed changes prior to the call. Please make your suggestions to the attached report. Track changes are enabled. Thank you. B Berry A. 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