Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Tuesday, 03 June 2014 at 19:00 UTC. <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140603-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140603-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#oct> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#june (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page) Attendees: Ronald Andruff - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Primary - Chair Greg Shatan - IPC - Alternate Thomas Rickert - Nominating Committee Appointee - Alternate Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPs and connectivity providers Constituency (ISPCP) - Primary Member Avri Doria - Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) - Primary Member Cintra Sooknanan (Vice-Chair) - Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency - NPOC Constituency - Primary Member Anne Aikman Scalese - IPC - Primary Angie Graves - Business Constituency (BC) - Alternate Lori Schulman - SOI Apologies: Amr Elsadr - Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) - Primary Member ICANN Staff: Mary Wong Julie Hedlund Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript 03 June 2014 Terri Agnew:Welcome to the SCI call on the 3rd of June 2014 Ron A:Good day all! Ron A:just waiting in the queue to come in on the call... Thomas Rickert 3:Hi all! Mary Wong:@Lori, do you have a Statement of Interest or an update to one? lori schulman:Hi Mary, I don't believe so. lori schulman:I am ramping up on everything. Mary Wong:OK - I'll send you the link/form. We need it, and your SG/C affiliation, per the GNSO WG Guidelines :) lori schulman:No problem. I will do all that is required. Mary Wong:Thanks so much! Ron A:@ Anne: Is there a reason you would like to see this go to Legal coincidentally with Pub Com? Ron A:As opposed to serially? Mary Wong:@Avri, that is what happens Anne Aikman-Scalese:just want to know whether we are seeking Legal input on all recommendations from scI as a matter of course Greg Shatan:It sounds more like a "red flag" process than an "input" process to me.... Mary Wong:On things like rules, procedures, published reports and policy recommendations etc.., that's the practice (not just SCI or GNSO). Mary Wong:@GReg, that's exactly right. Anne Aikman-Scalese:okay, thanks. dont think Legal should delay recommendations going to gnso Mary Wong:No, absolutely. Mary Wong:If necessary, we staff can be very pesky with our colleagues on behalf of the community :) Mary Wong:I thought Julie had abandoned us!!! :) :) Anne Aikman-Scalese:no need to be pesky If Legal has comments, they should send to GNSO directly and to us at the same time Ron A:@ Anne: I think we agree with the principle you are bringing up, however I see it as a quick 'sanity' check rather than a an ask for approval. Mary Wong:@Ron, as indeed it is! Greg Shatan:How about this revision to the end of the new language: "...shall be considered timely submitted for the next GNSO Council meeting.." Thomas Rickert 2:What about "as soon as practically possible"? Anne Aikman-Scalese:It would be better to say directly whether or not such a motion can be dealt with via e-mail voting. Greg Shatan:I disagree. The question of whether this or any other motion can be dealt with via e-mail voting. Greg Shatan:is irrelevan to this rule. Thomas Rickert 2:.shall be considered timely submitted for the next GNSO Council meeting and dealt with according to the rules applying to GNSO Council meeting Anne Aikman-Scalese:It could still be deferred when considered. Greg Shatan:@Avri -- how about my language above? Anne Aikman-Scalese:Re "parking", I thought we said all of these items are going out for public comment at the same time. Anne Aikman-Scalese:Language in minutes lookjs good. Cintra Sooknanan:I agree with Greg's analysis .... Avri Doria:i am afraid it will be used to block. Cintra Sooknanan:Avri would you prefer to change the shall to may? Avri Doria:pabncake? what does that have to do with nything? Greg Shatan:Exactly. It has nothing dto dowht anything.... Avri Doria:i accept Thomases langauge. I do not think it is redundnat. and ass i say as written it will be used to block an intermediate vote sooner or later. anyone who has done council knows that. Anne Aikman-Scalese:Greg, are you saying amend to say "shall be considered timely submitted for the next meeting" Greg Shatan:Yes. Avri Doria:i have been convinced that it is essential to change it. Greg Shatan:Thumbs up for Option B. Cintra Sooknanan:change it in what way? shall to may? Avri Doria:Cintra, that iis not enough. and that might even block what Greg wants. Cintra Sooknanan:ok Cintra Sooknanan:are you suggesting an option c? Greg Shatan:I don't think we should preclude e-voting for these motions. I just think it is not relevant here. Anne Aikman-Scalese:If it is not precluded, that should be more clear as in Option A draft language. Cintra Sooknanan:I think it is relevant, but I think it has been catered for Cintra Sooknanan:evoting... can only take place with the disucssion taking place on the mailing list etc Cintra Sooknanan:may= can be at the next meeting or otherwise lori schulman:I agree with Avri -- "may" appears to make the vote optional. Greg Shatan:I don't think Option B in any way precludes a request for evoting or a special meeting. Anne Aikman-Scalese:Greg is more of a purist than I am. He is legally quite correct but I think it wont be clear to non-lawyers. Greg Shatan:Meh. Ron A:Thank you on behalf of the non-lawyers Anne! ;o) Greg Shatan:@Avri -- it's treyfe! That's why it could not pass your lips. Cintra Sooknanan:sorry have connection problems Avri Doria:Greg: (: Ron A:Cintra:Can you add your thoughts via the chat? Anne Aikman-Scalese:Mary, is it always a motion? Anne Aikman-Scalese:Thanks Avri. Mary Wong:For COuncil voting? Yes I believe so - tho I will check re Greg's question about the Chair. Cintra Sooknanan:my issue is with the quorum Cintra Sooknanan:was there any mention on quorum on an email vote Cintra Sooknanan:is there automatic quorum? Cintra Sooknanan:I am scanning the text but maybe I am missing it Anne Aikman-Scalese:Check bylaws requirement for quorum per Cintra's comment! Mary Wong:There is a quorum requirement - think we tried to capture that in Section 5 Cintra Sooknanan:is it that as long as the email credentials are sent out the vote is assumed to be quorate Cintra Sooknanan:? Mary Wong:SEction 4.1 of the GNSO Op Proc, to be precise. Cintra Sooknanan:sorry for not speaking earlier very noisy here at the moment Ron A:All good Cintra. Cintra Sooknanan:my reason for declining approval was beacuse i think we need to beef up the quorum section here Cintra Sooknanan:thanks everyone... and to the subteam for their work on this... :) Anne Aikman-Scalese:Thanks everyone! Cintra Sooknanan:bye everyone, thanks Ron Thomas Rickert 2:bye all - cu in London! thanks Ron! Greg Shatan:2:30 am for remote lori schulman:thank you for my first meeting