WG: Standing Committee Drafting Team (SC-DT)
Maybe you've received this mail on the other mailing list. I was advised that this list (gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <BLOCKED::mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> ) is the one which should be used for this group. That's why I'm resending the E-Mail attached. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Februar 2011 16:30 An: ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Standing Committee Drafting Team (SC-DT) All: Please find attached a short summary from the call on Tuesday. As promised a first raw charter draft shall follow before the next call. --------------------------------------- Participants on the Call, Tuesday, 15 Feb, 13:00 - 14:00 UTC: Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISCPC Tatiana Khramtsova - Registrar Stakeholder Group Avri Doria - Non Commercial Stakeholder Group Philip Sheppard - CBUC ICANN Staff: Glen de Saint Gery Marika Konings Gisella Gruber-White Julie Hedlund Absent apologies: Ray Fassett - Registries Stakeholder Group Mary Wong - NCUC Rudi Vanscnick - At-Large Agenda and related summary 1. Clarifying the DT mandate * DT should draft a charter for a Standing Committee and present it to the Council for approval. The term "standing" seems appropriate rather than "steering" since underlining the * Reactive character of the SC (mainly) with tasks related to subsequent review of improvements that have been implemented from the PPSC and OSC (adopted by the council) and that presents any problems. Shifting the items in question to the new SC after having finished the related document/process by the PPSC/OSC and approved by the council. SC should pick up issues after the group concerned (WG, council etc.) has gained some experience with the process implemented. Periodic (preventive) reviews may also be useful to have. * It should be acknowledged that PPSC and OSC still have to finish tasks (maybe on different timescale) whereas the new SC should start working on items already finished (s.a.). Expiry of PPSC/OSC charters in June 2011 is obviously not acceptable. * The new SC should do the work by itself, not just identify the issues and "manage" them. 2. SC charter draft * W.-U. Knoben shall come up with a first draft on the basis of this discussion * Membership should be of broad participation of all constituencies/SGs. Council members should not be excluded. Call for membership as usual. Open question, whether a council member should chair the new SC. Built in a mechanism to the charter in order that members are being reconfirmed by their respective constituencies/SGs after a certain period. 3. Timing * Present a status report in SF. Motion deadline for SF is Feb 21 which is too early for a draft charter ready to go. 4. DT chair * Since there was no objection W.-U. Knoben shall continue to chair this Drafting Team 5. Next call * Monday, 12 Feb, 13:00 UTC Best regards Wolf-Ulrich
Dear Wolf-Ulrich, I'm very sorry I couldn't make it as I was on a flight to Albania at that time. If I'm not wrong the date of the next call will not be 12 February as mentioned below, what is the date of the next call ? Is it during the ICANN San Francisco meeting ? Best regards, Rudi Vansnick President/CEO Internet Society Belgium Member ALAC / EURALO Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 KnobenW@telekom.de wrote:
Maybe you've received this mail on the other mailing list.
I was advised that this list (gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <BLOCKED::mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> ) is the one which should be used for this group. That's why I'm resending the E-Mail attached.
Best regards Wolf-Ulrich
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Von: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Februar 2011 16:30 An: ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Standing Committee Drafting Team (SC-DT)
All:
Please find attached a short summary from the call on Tuesday. As promised a first raw charter draft shall follow before the next call.
---------------------------------------
Participants on the Call, Tuesday, 15 Feb, 13:00 - 14:00 UTC:
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISCPC
Tatiana Khramtsova - Registrar Stakeholder Group
Avri Doria - Non Commercial Stakeholder Group
Philip Sheppard - CBUC
ICANN Staff:
Glen de Saint Gery
Marika Konings
Gisella Gruber-White
Julie Hedlund
Absent apologies:
Ray Fassett - Registries Stakeholder Group
Mary Wong - NCUC
Rudi Vanscnick - At-Large
Agenda and related summary
1. Clarifying the DT mandate
* DT should draft a charter for a Standing Committee and present it to the Council for approval. The term "standing" seems appropriate rather than "steering" since underlining the
* Reactive character of the SC (mainly) with tasks related to subsequent review of improvements that have been implemented from the PPSC and OSC (adopted by the council) and that presents any problems. Shifting the items in question to the new SC after having finished the related document/process by the PPSC/OSC and approved by the council. SC should pick up issues after the group concerned (WG, council etc.) has gained some experience with the process implemented. Periodic (preventive) reviews may also be useful to have.
* It should be acknowledged that PPSC and OSC still have to finish tasks (maybe on different timescale) whereas the new SC should start working on items already finished (s.a.). Expiry of PPSC/OSC charters in June 2011 is obviously not acceptable.
* The new SC should do the work by itself, not just identify the issues and "manage" them.
2. SC charter draft
* W.-U. Knoben shall come up with a first draft on the basis of this discussion
* Membership should be of broad participation of all constituencies/SGs. Council members should not be excluded. Call for membership as usual. Open question, whether a council member should chair the new SC. Built in a mechanism to the charter in order that members are being reconfirmed by their respective constituencies/SGs after a certain period.
3. Timing
* Present a status report in SF. Motion deadline for SF is Feb 21 which is too early for a draft charter ready to go.
4. DT chair
* Since there was no objection W.-U. Knoben shall continue to chair this Drafting Team
5. Next call
* Monday, 12 Feb, 13:00 UTC
Best regards Wolf-Ulrich
Thanks Rudi, The call will be today at 13:00 UTC (14:00 CET). Are you representing ALAC in this regard? The reason why I'm raising this question is that the new Steering Committee (and the drafting team as well) is targeted to deal with GNSO related improvements. Anyway we need broad participation and I'd be happy you could make it. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be] Gesendet: Montag, 21. Februar 2011 11:00 An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Cc: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] WG: Standing Committee Drafting Team (SC-DT) Dear Wolf-Ulrich, I'm very sorry I couldn't make it as I was on a flight to Albania at that time. If I'm not wrong the date of the next call will not be 12 February as mentioned below, what is the date of the next call ? Is it during the ICANN San Francisco meeting ? Best regards, Rudi Vansnick President/CEO Internet Society Belgium Member ALAC / EURALO Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 KnobenW@telekom.de wrote:
Maybe you've received this mail on the other mailing list.
I was advised that this list (gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <BLOCKED::mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> ) is the one which should be used for this group. That's why I'm resending the E-Mail attached.
Best regards Wolf-Ulrich
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Von: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Februar 2011 16:30 An: ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Standing Committee Drafting Team (SC-DT)
All:
Please find attached a short summary from the call on Tuesday. As promised a first raw charter draft shall follow before the next call.
---------------------------------------
Participants on the Call, Tuesday, 15 Feb, 13:00 - 14:00 UTC:
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISCPC
Tatiana Khramtsova - Registrar Stakeholder Group
Avri Doria - Non Commercial Stakeholder Group
Philip Sheppard - CBUC
ICANN Staff:
Glen de Saint Gery
Marika Konings
Gisella Gruber-White
Julie Hedlund
Absent apologies:
Ray Fassett - Registries Stakeholder Group
Mary Wong - NCUC
Rudi Vanscnick - At-Large
Agenda and related summary
1. Clarifying the DT mandate
* DT should draft a charter for a Standing Committee and present it to the Council for approval. The term "standing" seems appropriate rather than "steering" since underlining the
* Reactive character of the SC (mainly) with tasks related to subsequent review of improvements that have been implemented from the PPSC and OSC (adopted by the council) and that presents any problems. Shifting the items in question to the new SC after having finished the related document/process by the PPSC/OSC and approved by the council. SC should pick up issues after the group concerned (WG, council etc.) has gained some experience with the process implemented. Periodic (preventive) reviews may also be useful to have.
* It should be acknowledged that PPSC and OSC still have to finish tasks (maybe on different timescale) whereas the new SC should start working on items already finished (s.a.). Expiry of PPSC/OSC charters in June 2011 is obviously not acceptable.
* The new SC should do the work by itself, not just identify the issues and "manage" them.
2. SC charter draft
* W.-U. Knoben shall come up with a first draft on the basis of this discussion
* Membership should be of broad participation of all constituencies/SGs. Council members should not be excluded. Call for membership as usual. Open question, whether a council member should chair the new SC. Built in a mechanism to the charter in order that members are being reconfirmed by their respective constituencies/SGs after a certain period.
3. Timing
* Present a status report in SF. Motion deadline for SF is Feb 21 which is too early for a draft charter ready to go.
4. DT chair
* Since there was no objection W.-U. Knoben shall continue to chair this Drafting Team
5. Next call
* Monday, 12 Feb, 13:00 UTC
Best regards Wolf-Ulrich
Dear Wolf-Ulrich, I'm very sorry but at such short notice it is difficult to change my agenda. As I have already a meeting scheduled at 13:30 till 14:45 it will be difficult to participate. I suppose I'm representing ALAC as I do not see any name from ALAC in the actual list and I'm happy to take this task on me. For your information i will be in San Francisco and will make time available to meet overthere. Kind regards, Rudi Vansnick President/CEO Internet Society Belgium Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 KnobenW@telekom.de wrote:
Thanks Rudi,
The call will be today at 13:00 UTC (14:00 CET). Are you representing ALAC in this regard? The reason why I'm raising this question is that the new Steering Committee (and the drafting team as well) is targeted to deal with GNSO related improvements. Anyway we need broad participation and I'd be happy you could make it.
Best regards Wolf-Ulrich
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be] Gesendet: Montag, 21. Februar 2011 11:00 An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Cc: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] WG: Standing Committee Drafting Team (SC-DT)
Dear Wolf-Ulrich,
I'm very sorry I couldn't make it as I was on a flight to Albania at that time.
If I'm not wrong the date of the next call will not be 12 February as mentioned below, what is the date of the next call ? Is it during the ICANN San Francisco meeting ?
Best regards,
Rudi Vansnick President/CEO Internet Society Belgium Member ALAC / EURALO Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
KnobenW@telekom.de wrote:
Maybe you've received this mail on the other mailing list.
I was advised that this list (gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <BLOCKED::mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> ) is the one which should be used for this group. That's why I'm resending the E-Mail attached.
Best regards Wolf-Ulrich
________________________________
Von: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Februar 2011 16:30 An: ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Standing Committee Drafting Team (SC-DT)
All:
Please find attached a short summary from the call on Tuesday. As promised a first raw charter draft shall follow before the next call.
---------------------------------------
Participants on the Call, Tuesday, 15 Feb, 13:00 - 14:00 UTC:
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISCPC
Tatiana Khramtsova - Registrar Stakeholder Group
Avri Doria - Non Commercial Stakeholder Group
Philip Sheppard - CBUC
ICANN Staff:
Glen de Saint Gery
Marika Konings
Gisella Gruber-White
Julie Hedlund
Absent apologies:
Ray Fassett - Registries Stakeholder Group
Mary Wong - NCUC
Rudi Vanscnick - At-Large
Agenda and related summary
1. Clarifying the DT mandate
* DT should draft a charter for a Standing Committee and present it to the Council for approval. The term "standing" seems appropriate rather than "steering" since underlining the
* Reactive character of the SC (mainly) with tasks related to subsequent review of improvements that have been implemented from the PPSC and OSC (adopted by the council) and that presents any problems. Shifting the items in question to the new SC after having finished the related document/process by the PPSC/OSC and approved by the council. SC should pick up issues after the group concerned (WG, council etc.) has gained some experience with the process implemented. Periodic (preventive) reviews may also be useful to have.
* It should be acknowledged that PPSC and OSC still have to finish tasks (maybe on different timescale) whereas the new SC should start working on items already finished (s.a.). Expiry of PPSC/OSC charters in June 2011 is obviously not acceptable.
* The new SC should do the work by itself, not just identify the issues and "manage" them.
2. SC charter draft
* W.-U. Knoben shall come up with a first draft on the basis of this discussion
* Membership should be of broad participation of all constituencies/SGs. Council members should not be excluded. Call for membership as usual. Open question, whether a council member should chair the new SC. Built in a mechanism to the charter in order that members are being reconfirmed by their respective constituencies/SGs after a certain period.
3. Timing
* Present a status report in SF. Motion deadline for SF is Feb 21 which is too early for a draft charter ready to go.
4. DT chair
* Since there was no objection W.-U. Knoben shall continue to chair this Drafting Team
5. Next call
* Monday, 12 Feb, 13:00 UTC
Best regards Wolf-Ulrich
Thanks Rudi, Maybe you didn't receive the doodle poll related to this call sent out last week. Sorry about. I'll take care that you'll get all information in time. Happy to meet you in SF. Gisella, please could you check the team list? Best regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be] Gesendet: Montag, 21. Februar 2011 12:41 An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Cc: rudi.vansnick@isoc.be; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Re: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] WG: Standing Committee Drafting Team (SC-DT) Dear Wolf-Ulrich, I'm very sorry but at such short notice it is difficult to change my agenda. As I have already a meeting scheduled at 13:30 till 14:45 it will be difficult to participate. I suppose I'm representing ALAC as I do not see any name from ALAC in the actual list and I'm happy to take this task on me. For your information i will be in San Francisco and will make time available to meet overthere. Kind regards, Rudi Vansnick President/CEO Internet Society Belgium Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 KnobenW@telekom.de wrote:
Thanks Rudi,
The call will be today at 13:00 UTC (14:00 CET). Are you representing ALAC in this regard? The reason why I'm raising this question is that the new Steering Committee (and the drafting team as well) is targeted to deal with GNSO related improvements. Anyway we need broad participation and I'd be happy you could make it.
Best regards Wolf-Ulrich
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be] Gesendet: Montag, 21. Februar 2011 11:00 An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Cc: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] WG: Standing Committee Drafting Team (SC-DT)
Dear Wolf-Ulrich,
I'm very sorry I couldn't make it as I was on a flight to Albania at that time.
If I'm not wrong the date of the next call will not be 12 February as mentioned below, what is the date of the next call ? Is it during the ICANN San Francisco meeting ?
Best regards,
Rudi Vansnick President/CEO Internet Society Belgium Member ALAC / EURALO Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
KnobenW@telekom.de wrote:
Maybe you've received this mail on the other mailing list.
I was advised that this list (gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <BLOCKED::mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> ) is the one which should be used for this group. That's why I'm resending the E-Mail attached.
Best regards Wolf-Ulrich
________________________________
Von: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Februar 2011 16:30 An: ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Standing Committee Drafting Team (SC-DT)
All:
Please find attached a short summary from the call on Tuesday. As promised a first raw charter draft shall follow before the next call.
---------------------------------------
Participants on the Call, Tuesday, 15 Feb, 13:00 - 14:00 UTC:
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISCPC
Tatiana Khramtsova - Registrar Stakeholder Group
Avri Doria - Non Commercial Stakeholder Group
Philip Sheppard - CBUC
ICANN Staff:
Glen de Saint Gery
Marika Konings
Gisella Gruber-White
Julie Hedlund
Absent apologies:
Ray Fassett - Registries Stakeholder Group
Mary Wong - NCUC
Rudi Vanscnick - At-Large
Agenda and related summary
1. Clarifying the DT mandate
* DT should draft a charter for a Standing Committee and present it to the Council for approval. The term "standing" seems appropriate rather than "steering" since underlining the
* Reactive character of the SC (mainly) with tasks related to subsequent review of improvements that have been implemented from the PPSC and OSC (adopted by the council) and that presents any problems. Shifting the items in question to the new SC after having finished the related document/process by the PPSC/OSC and approved by the council. SC should pick up issues after the group concerned (WG, council etc.) has gained some experience with the process implemented. Periodic (preventive) reviews may also be useful to have.
* It should be acknowledged that PPSC and OSC still have to finish tasks (maybe on different timescale) whereas the new SC should start working on items already finished (s.a.). Expiry of PPSC/OSC charters in June 2011 is obviously not acceptable.
* The new SC should do the work by itself, not just identify the issues and "manage" them.
2. SC charter draft
* W.-U. Knoben shall come up with a first draft on the basis of this discussion
* Membership should be of broad participation of all constituencies/SGs. Council members should not be excluded. Call for membership as usual. Open question, whether a council member should chair the new SC. Built in a mechanism to the charter in order that members are being reconfirmed by their respective constituencies/SGs after a certain period.
3. Timing
* Present a status report in SF. Motion deadline for SF is Feb 21 which is too early for a draft charter ready to go.
4. DT chair
* Since there was no objection W.-U. Knoben shall continue to chair this Drafting Team
5. Next call
* Monday, 12 Feb, 13:00 UTC
Best regards Wolf-Ulrich
Hi, Sorry I missed the meeting. I had sent notice this morning that I might be late. Well I was and by the time I joined the call, the call was over. On the writeup, the only thing I thought was missing was a reference to the rules that the standing committee would follow. Even though they have not been approved by the council yet, I recommend that this committee follow the working group guidelines as set forth in the now current draft of those recommendations. I recommend that fix on the now current version as opposed to just using the guidelines that may eventually be approved as that can get confusing it there are changes between the time the SC starts and the time the guidelines are complete. Again sorry for not being able to join the meeting on the hour. My work schedule is rarely time structured, but on these IGF weeks it is. a.
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