Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting will be held 28 July 2014. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 21 July 2014 at 15:00 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20140721-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20140721-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jul> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jul The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Barbara Knight – RySG James Bladel - RrSG Graeme Bunton – RrSG Holly Raiche – ALAC Volker Greimann – RrSG Avri Doria – NCSG Bob Mountain – RrSG Arthur Zonnenberg – RrSG Kevin Erdman – IPC Rob Golding – RrSG Kristine Dorrian – National Arbitration Forum Apologies: Paul Diaz – RySG ICANN staff: Marika Konings Amy Bivins Lars Hoffmann Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg> https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 21 July 2014: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG, Monday 21 July 2014 Bladel:Dialing in... Terri Agnew:Bob and Arthur I did include you in roll call Arthur Zonnenberg:im hearings James in echo can he turn his volume down please? Terri Agnew:Avri Doria has joined Terri Agnew:Arthur, has echo gotten better? Arthur Zonnenberg:yes it's beter now Terri Agnew:thank you Marika Konings:@Berry - correct, it didn't address that issue as far as I am aware but was brought up as part of the Issue Report in response to IRTP Part D, if I am not mistaken. Terri Agnew:Kevin Erdman has joined Arthur Zonnenberg:should not irtp-c handle its own use cases? irtp-c should not leave uncertainty... Berry Cobb:That's the conundrum. Berry Cobb:Check. Just so we modify that last phrase of the recommendation. Terri Agnew:Rob Golding has joined Graeme Bunton:/tumblweed Berry Cobb:At our next IRTP-C IRT, I will ensure that staff/IRT review these use cases.....that should help tee up the issue report. Terri Agnew:Kristine Dorrain has joined Arthur Zonnenberg:1st level support by registrars, 2nd level by icann compliance, 3rd level by tdrp provider, 4th by law? Arthur Zonnenberg:(disputes) Arthur Zonnenberg:will those icann explanations be translated in Dutch? Arthur Zonnenberg:fully agree on recommendation 15 and 16 Bob Mountain:Isn't Authorization misspelled? Kristine Dorrain-NAF:Not in the UK Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):Not in *english* :p Bob Mountain:Snobs Kristine Dorrain-NAF::) Holly Raiche:Oz spelling also uses the 's' Bob Mountain:We need a PDP on this one Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):Some form of FOA is needed, but I think that the reliance on the current 'standarised emiail' should not be the only type Arthur Zonnenberg:if they hack the registrar account they can change the email address and after processing confirm the foa. the rnh already agrees with terms and conditions via new registrar. Arthur Zonnenberg:icann compliance would still have foc for auditing. you doubt our data but did you calculate your fail rate? Volker Greimann:how is that evidence that the registrant agreed? Arthur Zonnenberg:are locking mechanisms necessary? i doubt enough has been done to accomodate end users ease of transfer. Arthur Zonnenberg:im not supporting complete elimination Arthur Zonnenberg:how is the foa evidence that the registrant agreed? Terri Agnew:As a reminder, please mute when not speaking Arthur Zonnenberg:can we please investigate fail rates? Graeme Bunton:That seems very sensible, Berry. Graeme Bunton:Happy to work with you on wording to the RRsg and data collection template Berry Cobb:Is there support by the other Registrars on this call to kick this over to the RrSG? Berry Cobb:Thank you Graeme. If this is acceptable, I can start a first draft. Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):There are registrars which are 'hard' to transfer away from Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):GD isn't one of those, so I support James earlier comments completely Arthur Zonnenberg:besides transfers failing due to transfer locks and 60 day locks Bladel:Rob - we are getting better! :) Bladel:It wasn't alwasy that clear. Arthur Zonnenberg:i agree with you Rob GD is not that hard. still every step you ask increases the fail rate is what we see in the data. Arthur Zonnenberg:transfers should be as user friendly as they can be i Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):the problems we see are Arthur Zonnenberg:i think :-) Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):user education - they dont understand all the steps Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):user incompetence - they dont complete all the steps Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):user configuration - they dont get (or mark-as-spam) the FOA Arthur Zonnenberg:yes rob but even with education, too many steps make you give up Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):as far bigger issues than registrar 'awkwardness' in enforcing policy Kristine Dorrain-NAF:I have to run....thanks all, talk to you next week! Arthur Zonnenberg:if you dont know about domains should your wish be prevented by locks or steps that dont add security Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):thansk james Avri Doria:bye, thanks