Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting will be held during the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aeres. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 04 November 2013 at 16:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131104-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>nov The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: James Bladel - RrSG Avri Doria - NCSG Volker Greimann - RrSG Mikey O'Connor - ISPCP Angie Graves - CBUC Graeme Bunton - RrSG Kristine Dorrain - NAF Paul Diaz - RySG Rob Golding - RrSG Bob Mountain - RrSG Barbara Knight - RySG Kevin Erdman - IPC Apologies: Holly Raiche - ALAC Chris Chaplow - CBUC ICANN staff: Lars Hoffmann Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Peregrine Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 04 November 2013: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D Meeting, Monday 4 November 2013 Paul Diaz (Public Interest Registry):Hello all. I likely will have to drop off this call early Paul Diaz (Public Interest Registry):PS - great pic, Mikey Avri Doria:both voices soud like under water to me. Avri Doria:but i am on AC Graeme Bunton:Hooray! Bob Mountain:Has an invite been sent? Lars Hoffmann:http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-irtp-d Nathalie Peregrine:Remote Participation details for BA will be sent out later this week Mike O'Connor:also a history Paul Diaz (Public Interest Registry):I believe Barbara K plans to dial-in to the BA session Bladel:A bit faint, but I can hear you. Nathalie Peregrine:Rob Golding has joiend the AC room Volker Greimann:define recalitrant. it may be the case that the registrar merely sees the chances of prevailing in the TRDP differently Nathalie Peregrine:Barbara Knight has joine dthe AC room Barbara Knight-RySG:I have also joined the call. Thanks Nathalie. Volker Greimann:radical thought (bordering on the heretic) : could such issues not be better included in the UDRP? Avri Doria:or even URS which has lighter weight. Kristine Dorrain:That would be super radical b/c the UDRP only deals with brandowners Kristine Dorrain::) Volker Greimann:well avri, the urs has no transfer element Avri Doria:then again if they want it back, needs to be more UDRPish Avri Doria:exactly thought of it as i pressed return Avri Doria:i was wrong and backed off. Kristine Dorrain:I think it would/could be interesting to expore something more UDRP-like for registrants that do not own brands. Volker Greimann:indeed Nathalie Peregrine:Kevin Erdman has joined the AC room Avri Doria:i do nto understand this proposal Avri Doria:we are going to change the TDRP, but not change it? Avri Doria:seems a problem to me that if a registrant has her name hijacked, she them needs to pay big bucks before she even gets a hearing. Kevin Erdman:Avri, I think the first step is to change the form but not the substance of the TDRP Kevin Erdman:The second step would be to propose substantive changes Avri Doria:ok, clean it up and then deltas. got it. Volker Greimann:Avri: going to court can be much more expensive and that currentl is the only real recourse Avri Doria:Volker, nonetheless - while thinko fo remedies we should not compare against worst case, but should think in terms of fairness. Avri Doria:apologies, i have to drop off now to get to eht first IETF session. also for the BA session, there are conflicting sessisons, so it may be difficult to get a big audience. Volker Greimann:i may not be here next week Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):@avri - good luck :) Kristine Dorrain:Thanks James and Mikey! Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):thanks mikey & james Barbara Knight-RySG:Thanks all. Bob Mountain:Thanks guys! Graeme Bunton: thanks