Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting will be held on Monday 19 May 2014. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 12 May 2014 at 15:00 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20140512-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20140512-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Barbara Knight – RySG James Bladel - RrSG Angie Graves – BC Avri Doria – NCSG Bob Mountain – RrSG Volker Greimann – RrSG Rob Golding – RrSG Apologies: Paul Diaz – RySG Holly Raiche – ALAC Graeme Bunton - RrSG Kevin Erdman - IPC ICANN staff: Amy Bivins Marika Konings Lars Hoffmann Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg> https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 12 May 2014: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D Working Group on Monday 12 May 2014 Volker:Hi Lars and Terri Terri Agnew:Hi Volker Avri Doria:alwasy Lars Hoffmann:yes i have. Avri Doria:when i used a mac, it worked well. Lars Hoffmann:chrome. Avri Doria:i have used both chrome and firefox. firefox works better Avri Doria:i have trouble sometime in windows 8 getting the microphone correct. Avri Doria:one thing i have noticed is that having the audi parameters set before starting the session is best on either w8 or osx Lars Hoffmann:NP Terri Agnew:Bob, I have added you to attendance Terri Agnew:Angie Graves has joined audio Terri Agnew:and now Adobe Barbara Knight:I am definitely curious as to the source of the data on transfers and failures Bob Mountain:Agree James, FoA issues are a very small percentage of failures that Afternic is involved with. Bob Mountain:Having some adobe connect issues Berry Cobb:As a near term future action based on this recommendation of keping the FOA, it was discussed in the IRTP-C IRT that the language around the IRTP needs to be updated to reflect the current state use of EPP and how FOAs would be used in today's environment of two-factor transfer. Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):Surely you can 'log' getting the auth code just as easily as doinga 'log' on an FOA ? Terri Agnew:Rob Golding, I have added you to attendance Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):If the registrant places and order, pays for the transfer, provides the auth-code - what further benefit is another step ? Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):(when that step existed because there was no auth-code step) Volker:Unlock is not required Volker:if not locked Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):i have some 'actual' stats if wanted ? Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):In a mo, just dialing in Volker:are you sure that those customers actually are the owners of the email addresses listed in the whois? Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):we validate the whois vs customer details first Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):as we need them to take off privacy servcies etc before attempting the transfer Bob Mountain:kudos to Arthur for his input Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):how can it be an 'unauthorised transfer' if they dont provide the authcode - as it cant transfer without it ? Volker:Evidence Barbara Knight:Volker +1 Avri Doria:Evidience of it having been properly. Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):I'm not techy - but dont the registrars actually retrive the code from the registry - so they woudl have that action logged anyway Volker:AFAIK, Registrars generate the Auth-info themselves Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):but it has to be 'at the registry' or how does the gaining registrar validate it with the registry ? Barbara Knight:I agree that the AuthInfo is passed to the Registry by the Registrar. Barbara Knight:Once an Auth Info code is in the registry database, when a transfer command is passed to the registry by the registrar, the registrar also passes the auth info code and if it matches what is in the registry system, the transfer is processed Barbara Knight:If it doesn't match or if the registrar doesn't pass it, the registry system will return an error Volker:Personally, I'd love to see the FoAs go. Many potential resellers wanted to switch to us and the FOAs prevented an easy migration Volker:still, if we get rid of them, we will need something more than we have now to replace them Bob Mountain:Yes I can only imagine the challenge to having all registrars replace FoA. Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):I;m with volker - gaining reg FOAS shoudl go :) Avri Doria:thanks Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):stats sent to the list. Thanks James