August 2016 - Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt2

recording, Attendance & AC Chat for New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 2 – Legal/Regulatory Issues 18 August 2016
by Terri Agnew Aug. 18, 2016

Aug. 18, 2016

Dear All, Please find the attendance and recording of the call attached to this email and the AC Chat below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 2 – Legal/Regulatory Issues held on Thursday, 18 August 2016 at 20:00 UTC. <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-16may16-en.mp3> The recordings of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt2 Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/FwSbAw Thank you. Kind regards, Terri ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 18 August 2016 Terri Agnew:Welcome to the first call for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 2 – Legal/Regulatory Issues held on Thursday, 18 August 2016 at 20:00 UTC. Terri Agnew:wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/2QisAw Terri Agnew:A list of Sub Team participants can be found at https://community.icann.org/x/uw2bAw Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Jeff I am about to briefly step away Be back soon .. Here though ! Jeff Neuman:thx Emily Barabas:loading... Terri Agnew:synce is turned on, everyone can scroll themselves Julie Hedlund:@Jeff: The slides are up and unsynced. Alexander Schubert:Is it normal that I hear nothing? Phil Marano (Mayer Brown):We can hear you Mike Rodenbaugh:i hear fine Emily Barabas:work in progress Avri Doria:you are soft spoken - hard to hear Steve Coates:Much better. Terri Agnew:@Alexandar, are you still unable to hear? can you join via telephone? I am also sending you a private AC chat Phil Buckingham:Hi everyone , sorry I m only on audio here . Terri Agnew:@Phil , I am sending you a private AC Chat Michael Flemming:Let me call in Alexander Schubert:fine all here Alexander Schubert::-) Avri Doria:is there a preference in the sub group for a single leader or co-leaders? Gg Levine:I'm good with co-leaders. Phil Buckingham:sorry jeff not on yet Terri Agnew:to active mic on AC , or to join via telephone select telephone icon and follow prompts Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):ergh to 0300 This is better for me Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):my real work occasionally needs attention as well Michael Flemming:Just about to call in here. susan payne:late :) Phil Buckingham:Terri , can u dial my mobile ( here in The UK ) Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I'm in a hospital bed and the other patients are sleeping Jeff Phil Buckingham:Ok will do Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thus my unusual mutedness susan payne:jeff you are really quiet Steve Coates:Breaking up, Jeff. Emily Barabas:Here is Michael's SOI: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Michael+Flemming+SOI Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Be good to have you as a Co- Lead Michael Heather Forrest:hooray! Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):You just need coffe Heather susan payne:entirely reasonable Michael Terri Agnew:Phil is on audio Emily Barabas:And Phil's SOI: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Phil+Buckingham+SOI susan payne:nope Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):YEAH Greg Shatan:Jeff and Terri, please mute Phil Marano (Mayer Brown):Oh dear. Terri Agnew:as reminder, turn down your computer speakers Avri Doria:we can all dance to the techno sounds of chirping Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):turn your speakers OFF Greg Shatan:I love electronic music. Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury):Ahhh Michael Flemming:Can hear you Emily Barabas:We can hear you Mike Rodenbaugh:great speech, R2 Terri Agnew:dialing Phil back Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Your on Greg Shatan:Well that was interesting. Greg Shatan:He may have been muted as the sonic culprit. Alexander Schubert:People have to use HEADSETS - no Laptops.... Terri Agnew:Phil is back on audio Greg Shatan:We should be better at this by now.... Emily Barabas:Phil Buckingham SOI: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Phil+Buckingham+SOI Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):great Michael Flemming:In the interest of Phil's request for a lawyer, I will make sure to mention that I am not a lawyer. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):sorted then Steve Coates:Guilty as charged. Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury):I'm an attorney but o..k. with the co-leaders not being attorneys Kevin Kreuser (Go Daddy):if there are enough of us legal birds on the group, I dont think the leaders need to be Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):we have no shortage in the group susan payne:lots of lawyers in group Phil Marano (Mayer Brown):+1 Vicky Sheckler:agre Avri Doria:no group leader comes with ALL the skills of the group Gg Levine:Agree Kevin Kreuser (Go Daddy):+1 Steve Coates:+1 Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury):+1 Michael Flemming:Look forward to the challenge Greg Shatan:Leaders should be faciliators, not leading experts. If our output can only be understood by lawyers, we will have failed. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):agree GREG Phil Buckingham:+1 Michael ! Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Sorry Caps Greg Greg Shatan:At least you didn't say GREC.... Kevin Kreuser (Go Daddy):COI needs to go away Kurt Pritz:Is another group taking up the issue of whether there should be categories and, if so, how many? That effrot and the issue of contract differentiation should be in lock-step. Kurt Pritz:"effort" Gg Levine:Please remind me of what Spec 11 Section 3d states Mike Rodenbaugh:I'm very confused about the apparent overlap of many of these topics with the Subsequent Rounds PDP. Mike Rodenbaugh:How do we avoid duplication of effort or inconsistent outcomes Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):It may get messy Mike without careful watching on the overlaps Sara Bockey:someone needs to mute their mic Mike Rodenbaugh:I mean among the work teams, sorry Jeff Mike Rodenbaugh:I guess that's your job! Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I understood you to mean that MIKE Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Someone needs to mute Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Nexis and dependeencies Yes noted Jeff Heather Forrest:agree with your summary, Jeff Heather Forrest:I assume Council will communicate the letter to you very soon - August is a slow month for us Avri Doria:One of the questions that are part of considerations in repsonding to the Boards letter is the degree to which the council or the SubPro group beleives that PDP need to have segements recommendations. Kurt Pritz:@Gg: Spec 11 is the prohibition of a single-registrant TLD (for TLds that are dictionary or generic terms. It states, " Registry Operator of a “Generic String” TLD may not impose eligibility criteria for registering names in the TLD that limit registrations exclusively to a single person or entity and/or that person’s or entity’s “Affiliates” (as defined in Section 2.9(c) of the Registry Agreement). “Generic String” means a string consisting of a word or term that denominates or describes a general class of goods, services, groups, organizations or things, as opposed to distinguishing a specific brand of goods, services, groups, organizations or things from those of others. " Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Agreed Avri Gg Levine:Thank you, Kurt. Emily Barabas:work in progress Avri Doria:the group may also reprioritize which would change the schedules Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Of course Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury):Thank you everyone Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Thanks everyone talk again soon Bye for now Michael Flemming 2:Thank you Phil Marano (Mayer Brown):Goodbye

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Actions/Discussion Notes: Work Track 2 Sub Team Meeting 18 August
by Julie Hedlund Aug. 18, 2016

Aug. 18, 2016

Dear Sub Team Members, Please see below the action items and discussion notes captured by staff from the meeting on 18 August. These high-level notes are designed to help Work Track Sub Team members navigate through the content of the call. Please also see the recording on the meetings page at: https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/Work+Track+2+Meetings. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director Action Items/Discussion Notes 18 August 1. Leadership for the Track 2 Sub Team: See Sub Team participants at: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=60493243. Action Items: Phil Buckingham and Michael Flemming volunteered, and were approved, as Co-Chairs. 2. Work Plan/Schedule – See: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=58001972: Discussion Notes: · Work Plan will prioritize tasks. · Base the meeting schedule on the Work Plan. · Three calling times: 0300, 1500, 2000 UTC. · Decide whether to meet weekly, every other week, or every 3 weeks. · Just meet once in August. 3. Work Items/List of Topics -- See: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=60490775. Discussion Notes: · Letter to the GNSO Council from the Board re: if anything could be prioritized for implementation. Note referred to the WG at this point. · Decide whether we need to have segmented recommendations.

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Co Chair / Lead for WT2 starting this Thursday
by Michael Flemming Aug. 17, 2016

Aug. 17, 2016

Dear All, My name is Michael Flemming and I would like to volunteer for the Co Chair for WT2. It took a bit of effort to get this out to the mailing list and I wish to thank those who made sure I got registered on the list. I have not Co Chaired before, so this will be a first for me. However, I have experience in consulting on TMCH/RPM matters to my own clients. I am likely not known by many as I have been an more so of an observer over the past few years. I represent GMO Brights Consulting. We are an IP Consulting Firm, acting as a corporate Registrar and domain name and trademark consultancy in Japan. On a personal scale I manage the accounts for 20+ Japanese Brand TLDs as well as our Registrar Operations for the Brand TLDs. If allowed, I would very much appreciate this opportunity. Kind regards, Michael Flemming

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Chair / Lead for WT2 starting this Thursday
by Phil Buckingham Aug. 17, 2016

Aug. 17, 2016

Hi, Jeff asked me to resubmit to the list to volunteer as Chair / Lead for the Regulatory and Legal WT2, which kicks off on Thursday 20.00 UTC. I am known to many of you. I think I have the knowledge , experience on some of the Regulatory critical issues ( EBERO, COI , LOC Vertical Integration , Closed Generics) with possible solutions and " mid course corrections" ( as Kurt puts it ) that will be required, but might struggling on some Legal ones, including the RPMs and Global Public Interest definition. There are many lawyers on the list . Perhaps one of you would be interested in Co Chairing/ Leading. I look forward to discussing further and getting started on the long round to a Round 2. Regards, Phil Phil Buckingham

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Work Track 2 First Meeting (Thursday)
by Jeff Neuman Aug. 15, 2016

Aug. 15, 2016

All, As you are aware, the first meeting of Work Track 2 (Legal / Regulatory) is scheduled for Thursday 18 August at 20:00 UTC. You should have all received an invitation already. The meeting will last 1 hour and as this is the first meeting, The Agenda for this first meeting: 0) Review Agenda 1) Introductions / Statements of Interest (SOIs) - All participants in the group must submit SOI. Most of you have already submitted one as you are members of the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures group. But anyone who has not done so is requested to take care of this. 2) Pick Leadership for the Track 2 Sub Team. This can be one person or several who share the responsibilities, it is up to the group. The requirement is for at least one person to take on the task. Responsibilities include: * Coordinating the efforts of the Sub Team * Communicating the status of the Sub Team to the rest of the leadership team and the full WG. This includes participating in a weekly leadership call to keep the work moving and coordinated. * Working with staff and the WG co-chairs as needed to get the work done, which includes developing the content for the full WG meetings and WG reports. * Acting with neutrality toward the Sub Team participants and the issues being dealt with within the group in the effort to help the group come to consensus on preliminary recommendations. All recommendation will be brought to the full group for discussion and possible approval as PDP WG recommendations. It would be great to start this discussion on the mailing list before the meeting on Thursday where anyone who wishes to volunteer speaks up. Also feel free to nominate those who you believe would be good in the role. Note that that 2 co-chairs of the full WG (Avri and I) have disqualified themselves from this role. We will remain involved as needed to assist the leaders and to coordinate with the full working group. A list of Sub Team participants can be found at < https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=60493243 > The decision on Sub Team leadership is the first consensus decision the group needs to make. 3) Discussion on Sub Team meeting schedule. The current plan it to rotate all the Sub Team meetings between two time slots: 15UTC and 20UTC across all 5 days of the week. Each team will be expected to meet at least every other week, but will be able to meet more often if the Sub Team decides it is necessary. While scheduling outside these two time bands is theoretically possible, the current schedule of other meetings makes that challenging. It is also possible to add a third time band or to stick to a single 1 time slot as the Sub Team decides. 4) Walk through the work items for the Sub Team. These are found at < https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=60490775> Among the first tasks of the Sub Team will be to decide: * how they want to work through the issues, * to look at prioritization of issues * to refine the schedule currently posted for these activities. The current schedule is found at: <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/58001972/Policy%20Developm…> In this first meeting we will only talk through the work items for clarification, the work will start in earnest with the next meeting, but it would be good to keep these issues in mind. 5) AOB - if there is time. [Thanks to Avri for allowing me to heavily borrow from Work Track 1's agenda :)] Jeffrey J. Neuman Senior Vice President |Valideus USA | Com Laude USA 1751 Pinnacle Drive, Suite 600 Mclean, VA 22102, United States E: jeff.neuman(a)valideus.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@valideus.com> or jeff.neuman(a)comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> T: +1.703.635.7514 M: +1.202.549.5079 @Jintlaw

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