welll when am looking at it….we have yet to properly instate the charter we are jumping the gun all the time. This makes situation more complicated and time consuming. i agree the ISO definition comes in. In which case just take the iso three words already the list is there. But how about a safeguard councilor committee that overlooks these because going through the icann procedures can sometimes take too long. Business model or not. It opens and protects the ISO and the IP clearing house. These will be the first cross reference anyway. But we need to move we cannot spend time to go 2 steps and 3 steps back.
On Jan 12, 2018, at 16:59, Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> wrote:
Note: I stand corrected! ISO 3166 and 3166-2 are about codes and codes only and In themselves really provide no additional information about the “sovereignty status” or “dependency status” of the pertinent geography.
Jaap has graciously pointed out to me cases of dependent territories, for example, the case of Wallis and Futuna which beside their ISO 3166 code (WF), these island-dependencies (overseas collectivities of France) also hold several ISO 3166-2 administrative subdivision codes WF-AL (Alo); WF-SG (Sigave) and WF-UV (Uvea). https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:code:3166:WF <https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:code:3166:WF>
(Therefore that a certain jurisdiction holds ISO-3166-2 coded subdivisions says nothing about that jurisdiction’s political status in regards ultimate sovereignty).
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On Jan 11, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap@NLnetLabs.nl <mailto:jaap@NLnetLabs.nl>> wrote:
Nick,
Did not know or remember that interesting fact about Scotland (GB-SCT) under 3166-2. Seeing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2 <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2> which reports that ISO-2 list, I just realized that it indirectly differentiates between independent countries and non-sovereign territories that possess 3166-1 country codes: those with subdivisions are independent countries and those without are not. Thanks a lot!
Note that Wikipedia is not a normative source for ISO information. Apart from that, the conclusion you make about the difference between ISO 3166 Part 1 and Part 2 is incorrect.
Part 2 defines subdivisions codes and given that, none of them are independent. These codes have the form AA-XXXX. The AA part is the alpha-2 code defined in Part 1. It doesn't say anything about the dependency status of those subdivisions. In Part 1, there is an indicator whether it the code is assigned to an Independent country or not. Also note Part 2 only has subdivisions from Codes in Part 1.
If one want to know what ISO 3166 actually says, it is best to go to the source directly. You can browse the ISO database using <https://www.iso.org/obp <https://www.iso.org/obp>>. In the search box, select the country button and type in the query. Then you can click on the results and see the glory details. For Scotland one gets something like <https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:code:3166:GB <https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:code:3166:GB>>. Note the "Yes" in the dependency status of GB.
Hope this helps, Regards,
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