Dear Mike, Thanks for clarifying what exactly you meant in your previous e-mail. These two exceptions out of more than a thousand applications puts things in perspective. Best, Rosalía [cid:B190111C-4AAD-456E-809F-8934B6CA8935] On Sep 7, 2018, at 3:11 PM, Mike Rodenbaugh <mike@rodenbaugh.com<mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com>> wrote: Also "exceptions" like Amazon and Persian Gulf, which were not 'geo terms' as defined, and yet nevertheless have met government opposition and delay. There needs to be certainly for future applicants, as was clearly intended to have been the goal in 2012, only to be thwarted by governments many times over. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087 http://rodenbaugh.com<http://rodenbaugh.com/> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: The “few exceptions” seem to be virtually every application where the applicant intended a “non-geo” use but the string was judged to be (among other things) a geo-name. If we don’t fix this, we’ve failed. Best regards, Greg On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 1:44 PM <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>> wrote: +1 ________________________________ Von: Rosalía Morales <rosalia.morales@nic.cr<mailto:rosalia.morales@nic.cr>> Datum: 7. September 2018 um 19:42:59 MESZ An: Mike Rodenbaugh <mike@rodenbaugh.com<mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com>> Cc: Icann Gnso Newgtld Wg Wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>> Betreff: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Motion to include a notion of “Elimination of the 'non-geo use provision' for sizeable cities” in the report Dear Mike, Stating that "The compromise of 2012 went too far kowtowing to government demands, holding the entire program hostage” does not seem accurate. As far as I’m concerned, the program went by pretty well for some few exceptions. Taking into account the opinions of other stakeholder groups is not holding the program hostage, is actually how the multistakeholder model works and how this group is supposed to work. All opinions (not “demands”) are welcomed in this process and are the key elements of ICANN. Best, Rosal'ia [cid:B190111C-4AAD-456E-809F-8934B6CA8935] On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:14 AM, Mike Rodenbaugh <mike@rodenbaugh.com<mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com><mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com<mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com>>> wrote: went way too far kowtowing to government demands, holding the entire program hostage _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5