New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 21.00 UTC, 20 December 2017
Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 21.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda: 1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI) 2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls. 3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff) 4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level 5. AOB The Adobe Connect Room is at: https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/ <https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/> I look forward to your joining the call. Regards Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB)
Dear Christopher Thank you very much for yo message Pls kindly note that I have send some suggestions for terms of reference . I do not see that proposal being treated. Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone
On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, "lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 21.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda:
1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI)
2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls.
3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff)
4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level
5. AOB
The Adobe Connect Room is at:
https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/
I look forward to your joining the call. Regards
Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large
PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
Dear all, please accept my apologies for this teleconference (am busy at the Geneva IGF…). I’ve made some comments in the Google Doc itself (in part they are in line with prior comments). Thanks for considering them and kind regards Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von lists@christopherwilkinson.eu Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2017 09:03 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 21.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 Wichtigkeit: Hoch Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 21.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda: 1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI) 2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls. 3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff) 4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level 5. AOB The Adobe Connect Room is at: https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/ I look forward to your joining the call. Regards Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB)
Oops: That is 20.00 UTC as previously announced., NOT 21.00. With apologies. CW
On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu <mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 20.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda:
1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI)
2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls.
3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff)
4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level
5. AOB
The Adobe Connect Room is at:
https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/ <https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/>
I look forward to your joining the call. Regards
Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large
PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
Dear All I am sorry We have planned our agenda for 21,00 UTC and NOT 21,00 UTC Please kindly respect the initial announcement Should you hold the meeting in future that is some thing else Pls kindly confirm the initial date Best regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone
On 19 Dec 2017, at 22:46, "lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
Oops: That is 20.00 UTC as previously announced., NOT 21.00. With apologies.
CW
On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu wrote:
Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 20.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda:
1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI)
2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls.
3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff)
4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level
5. AOB
The Adobe Connect Room is at:
https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/
I look forward to your joining the call. Regards
Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large
PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
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Pls kindly confirm initial timing for the meeting i.e. 21,00 UTC as we adjusted our agenda Pls kindly do not change the timing at the last day Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone
On 19 Dec 2017, at 22:46, "lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
Oops: That is 20.00 UTC as previously announced., NOT 21.00. With apologies.
CW
On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu wrote:
Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 20.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda:
1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI)
2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls.
3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff)
4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level
5. AOB
The Adobe Connect Room is at:
https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/
I look forward to your joining the call. Regards
Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large
PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
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Dear Kavouss, Sorry for any confusion caused by the below error in the message sent with the agenda. The call is scheduled for 20:00 UTC, as reflected in the call details and calendar invitation sent out by the SO/AC Support team and corrected by Christopher below. Again, please accept our apologies for any inconvenience. Kind regards, Emily From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday 20 December 2017 at 06:55 To: "lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 Pls kindly confirm initial timing for the meeting i.e. 21,00 UTC as we adjusted our agenda Pls kindly do not change the timing at the last day Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone On 19 Dec 2017, at 22:46, "lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>> wrote: Oops: That is 20.00 UTC as previously announced., NOT 21.00. With apologies. CW On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote: Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 20.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda: 1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI) 2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls. 3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff) 4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level 5. AOB The Adobe Connect Room is at: https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/ I look forward to your joining the call. Regards Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
Dear All In view of confusion of time , I am unable to attend as the calling time was announced 21,00 UTC but changed to 20,00 UTC Thus I planned another Non ICANN meeting Pls kindly and duly consider the proposed changes that sent by me Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone
On 20 Dec 2017, at 13:29, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Kavouss,
Sorry for any confusion caused by the below error in the message sent with the agenda. The call is scheduled for 20:00 UTC, as reflected in the call details and calendar invitation sent out by the SO/AC Support team and corrected by Christopher below.
Again, please accept our apologies for any inconvenience.
Kind regards, Emily
From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday 20 December 2017 at 06:55 To: "lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017
Pls kindly confirm initial timing for the meeting i.e. 21,00 UTC as we adjusted our agenda Pls kindly do not change the timing at the last day Regards Kavouss
Sent from my iPhone
On 19 Dec 2017, at 22:46, "lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
Oops: That is 20.00 UTC as previously announced., NOT 21.00. With apologies.
CW
On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu wrote:
Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 20.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda:
1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI)
2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes,
we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls.
3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff)
4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level
5. AOB
The Adobe Connect Room is at:
https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/
I look forward to your joining the call. Regards
Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large
PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
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Dear all, Due to obligations at the IGF, I am unable to attend the call. My apologies and I will catch up with the minutes to prepare for the next call. Sincerely, Sebastien From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Arasteh Sent: woensdag 20 december 2017 14:13 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 Dear All In view of confusion of time , I am unable to attend as the calling time was announced 21,00 UTC but changed to 20,00 UTC Thus I planned another Non ICANN meeting Pls kindly and duly consider the proposed changes that sent by me Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone On 20 Dec 2017, at 13:29, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> wrote: Dear Kavouss, Sorry for any confusion caused by the below error in the message sent with the agenda. The call is scheduled for 20:00 UTC, as reflected in the call details and calendar invitation sent out by the SO/AC Support team and corrected by Christopher below. Again, please accept our apologies for any inconvenience. Kind regards, Emily From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com<mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>> Date: Wednesday 20 December 2017 at 06:55 To: "lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 Pls kindly confirm initial timing for the meeting i.e. 21,00 UTC as we adjusted our agenda Pls kindly do not change the timing at the last day Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone On 19 Dec 2017, at 22:46, "lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>> wrote: Oops: That is 20.00 UTC as previously announced., NOT 21.00. With apologies. CW On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote: Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 20.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda: 1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI) 2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls. 3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff) 4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level 5. AOB The Adobe Connect Room is at: https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/ I look forward to your joining the call. Regards Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 Disclaimer: This email and any attachment hereto is intended solely for the person to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or if you have received this email in error, please delete it and immediately contact the sender by telephone or email, and destroy any copies of this information. You should not use or copy it, nor disclose its content to any other person or rely upon this information. Please note that any views presented in the email and any attachment hereto are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of EURid. While all care has been taken to avoid any known viruses, the recipient is advised to check this email and any attachment for presence of viruses. http://www.eurid.eu/en/legal-disclaimer
Dear All, Please accept my apologies for not attending the call today. Best regards Dave On 20/12/2017 17:52, Sebastien Pensis wrote:
Dear all,
Due to obligations at the IGF, I am unable to attend the call. My apologies and I will catch up with the minutes to prepare for the next call.
Sincerely,
Sebastien
*From:*Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Arasteh *Sent:* woensdag 20 december 2017 14:13 *To:* Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> *Cc:* gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017
Dear All
In view of confusion of time ,
I am unable to attend as the calling time was announced 21,00 UTC but changed to 20,00 UTC Thus I planned another Non ICANN meeting
Pls kindly and duly consider the proposed changes that sent by me
Regards
Kavouss
Sent from my iPhone
On 20 Dec 2017, at 13:29, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org <mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> wrote:
Dear Kavouss,
Sorry for any confusion caused by the below error in the message sent with the agenda. The call is scheduled for 20:00 UTC, as reflected in the call details and calendar invitation sent out by the SO/AC Support team and corrected by Christopher below.
Again, please accept our apologies for any inconvenience.
Kind regards,
Emily
*From: *Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com <mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>> *Date: *Wednesday 20 December 2017 at 06:55 *To: *"lists@christopherwilkinson.eu <mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu <mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>> *Cc: *"gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>> *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017
Pls kindly confirm initial timing for the meeting i.e. 21,00 UTC as we adjusted our agenda
Pls kindly do not change the timing at the last day
Regards
Kavouss
Sent from my iPhone
On 19 Dec 2017, at 22:46, "lists@christopherwilkinson.eu <mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu <mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>> wrote:
Oops:That is 20.00 UTC as previously announced., NOT 21.00. With apologies.
CW
On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu <mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 20.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda:
1.
Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI)
2.
Agenda review and length of calls.
The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes,
we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls.
3.
2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff)
4.
Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level
5.
AOB
The Adobe Connect Room is at:
https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/
I look forward to your joining the call. Regards
Christopher Wilkinson
Co-Leader, At Large
PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB)
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Like others, the confusion in time made it impossible for me to join you. Apologies Paul Paul Rosenzweig <mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com> paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com O: +1 (202) 547-0660 M: +1 (202) 329-9650 VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739 <http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/> www.redbranchconsulting.com My PGP Key: <https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684> https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684 From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of lists@christopherwilkinson.eu Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 4:47 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team - Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 Importance: High Oops: That is 20.00 UTC as previously announced., NOT 21.00. With apologies. CW On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu <mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote: Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 20.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda: 1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI) 2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls. 3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff) 4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level 5. AOB The Adobe Connect Room is at: https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/ I look forward to your joining the call. Regards Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
I missed the call too, but I had requested a dial out. My apologies Bram Sent from my iPhone On 20 Dec 2017, at 5:32 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com<mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com>> wrote: Like others, the confusion in time made it impossible for me to join you. Apologies Paul Paul Rosenzweig paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com<mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com> O: +1 (202) 547-0660 M: +1 (202) 329-9650 VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739 www.redbranchconsulting.com<http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/> My PGP Key: https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684 From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 4:47 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 Importance: High Oops: That is 20.00 UTC as previously announced., NOT 21.00. With apologies. CW On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote: Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 20.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda: 1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI) 2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls. 3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff) 4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level 5. AOB The Adobe Connect Room is at: https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/ I look forward to your joining the call. Regards Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
Hi The call has not been yet, it is scheduled for 20 UTC tonight. Kindly Annebeth From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Bram Fudzulani <beatblam@hotmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 20 December 2017 at 16:42 To: Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team - Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 I missed the call too, but I had requested a dial out. My apologies Bram Sent from my iPhone On 20 Dec 2017, at 5:32 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com<mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com>> wrote: Like others, the confusion in time made it impossible for me to join you. Apologies Paul Paul Rosenzweig paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com<mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com> O: +1 (202) 547-0660 M: +1 (202) 329-9650 VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739 www.redbranchconsulting.com<http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/> My PGP Key: https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684 From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 4:47 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 Importance: High Oops: That is 20.00 UTC as previously announced., NOT 21.00. With apologies. CW On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote: Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 20.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda: 1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI) 2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls. 3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff) 4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level 5. AOB The Adobe Connect Room is at: https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/ I look forward to your joining the call. Regards Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
Dear Christopher, Thank you very much again. As I informed you, I am unable to attend due to confusion in the time of of the meeting However, should you have Quorum, pls kindly and duly consider the amendments that i proposed after our last call. pls also consider that, we need to work more efficiently thus i am not in favour of extension of the duration beyond 60 mints . This is a matter to be subject to a doodle and not taking the time of the meeting Regards Kavouss On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no> wrote:
Hi
The call has not been yet, it is scheduled for 20 UTC tonight.
Kindly
Annebeth
*From: *Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Bram Fudzulani <beatblam@hotmail.com> *Date: *Wednesday, 20 December 2017 at 16:42 *To: *Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com> *Cc: *"gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team - Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017
I missed the call too, but I had requested a dial out.
My apologies
Bram
Sent from my iPhone
On 20 Dec 2017, at 5:32 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig@ redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
Like others, the confusion in time made it impossible for me to join you.
Apologies
Paul
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*From:* Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of * lists@christopherwilkinson.eu *Sent:* Tuesday, December 19, 2017 4:47 PM *To:* gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org *Subject:* [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Corr. Re: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 20.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 *Importance:* High
Oops: That is 20.00 UTC as previously announced., NOT 21.00. With apologies.
CW
On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:03, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu wrote:
Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 20.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda:
1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI)
2. Agenda review and length of calls.
The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes,
we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls.
3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff)
4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level
5. AOB
The Adobe Connect Room is at:
https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/
I look forward to your joining the call. Regards
Christopher Wilkinson
Co-Leader, At Large
PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB)
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Dear Christopher, unfortunately I will not make it for the call of tonight. Please accept my apologies and extend them to the other participants. Kind regards. Luca <http://www.studiobarbero.com/> Dr. Luca Barbero <mailto:luca.barbero@studiobarbero.com> luca.barbero@studiobarbero.com STUDIO BARBERO S.p.A. Corso Massimo d’Azeglio 57 - 10126 Torino - Italy cell. +39 349 8847686 tel. +39 011 3810600 | fax +39 011 3810601 <mailto:luca.barbero@pec.studiobarbero.it> luca.barbero@pec.studiobarbero.it <http://www.studiobarbero.com/> http://www.studiobarbero.com Cap. Soc. i.v. / Paid-up Capital € 180.000,00 | REA 1203429 Reg. Imp. TO | C.F. e P. IVA / VAT IT11313300011 RC Professionale / Professional Liability Insurance n. 109H5271 - Zurich Insurance Plc € 2.169.119,00 _____ Il presente messaggio è indirizzato unicamente al destinatario indicato e potrebbe contenere informazioni riservate e confidenziali. Qualora l’aveste ricevuto per errore, vi chiediamo cortesemente di avvisarci a mezzo posta elettronica e di cancellare immediatamente il messaggio ed i relativi allegati. Ogni riproduzione, distribuzione o copia non autorizzata del contenuto della presente comunicazione è espressamente vietata. _____ This message is addressed exclusively to the indicated recipient(s) and could contain privileged and/or confidential information. Should you have receive it in error, we kindly ask you to notify us by return e-mail and immediately delete the message and the related annexes. Any unauthorized disclosure, distribution or copying of the content of the present communication is expressly prohibited. _____ Da: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Per conto di lists@christopherwilkinson.eu Inviato: martedì 19 dicembre 2017 09:03 A: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Oggetto: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 21.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 Priorità: Alta Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 21.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda: 1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI) 2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls. 3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff) 4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level 5. AOB The Adobe Connect Room is at: https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/ I look forward to your joining the call. Regards Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB)
My apologies too. Best Regards Aslam Mohamed.Attorney USA Business Development [cid:image001.png@01D2730D.4FCB7A70] RNA, Technology and IP Attorneys rnaip.com<http://rnaip.com/> On Dec 20, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Luca Barbero <luca.barbero@studiobarbero.com<mailto:luca.barbero@studiobarbero.com>> wrote: Dear Christopher, unfortunately I will not make it for the call of tonight. Please accept my apologies and extend them to the other participants. Kind regards. Luca <image001.gif><http://www.studiobarbero.com/> Dr. Luca Barbero luca.barbero@studiobarbero.com<mailto:luca.barbero@studiobarbero.com> STUDIO BARBERO S.p.A. Corso Massimo d’Azeglio 57 - 10126 Torino - Italy cell. +39 349 8847686 tel. +39 011 3810600 | fax +39 011 3810601 luca.barbero@pec.studiobarbero.it<mailto:luca.barbero@pec.studiobarbero.it> http://www.studiobarbero.com<http://www.studiobarbero.com/> Cap. Soc. i.v. / Paid-up Capital € 180.000,00 | REA 1203429 Reg. Imp. TO | C.F. e P. IVA / VAT IT11313300011 RC Professionale / Professional Liability Insurance n. 109H5271 - Zurich Insurance Plc € 2.169.119,00 ________________________________ Il presente messaggio è indirizzato unicamente al destinatario indicato e potrebbe contenere informazioni riservate e confidenziali. Qualora l’aveste ricevuto per errore, vi chiediamo cortesemente di avvisarci a mezzo posta elettronica e di cancellare immediatamente il messaggio ed i relativi allegati. Ogni riproduzione, distribuzione o copia non autorizzata del contenuto della presente comunicazione è espressamente vietata. ________________________________ This message is addressed exclusively to the indicated recipient(s) and could contain privileged and/or confidential information. Should you have receive it in error, we kindly ask you to notify us by return e-mail and immediately delete the message and the related annexes. Any unauthorized disclosure, distribution or copying of the content of the present communication is expressly prohibited. ________________________________ Da: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Per conto di lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> Inviato: martedì 19 dicembre 2017 09:03 A: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Oggetto: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 21.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 Priorità: Alta Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 21.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda: 1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI) 2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls. 3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff) 4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level 5. AOB The Adobe Connect Room is at: https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/ I look forward to your joining the call. Regards Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 ________________________________ IMPORTANT NOTICE - The contents of this email and attachments are confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. Copying or communicating any part of it to others is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, copy, distribute or rely on this email and should please return it immediately or notify us by telephone. While we take every reasonable precaution to screen out computer viruses from emails, attachments to this email may contain such viruses. We cannot accept liability for loss or damage resulting from such viruses. The integrity of email across the Internet cannot be guaranteed and RNA will not accept liability for any claims arising as a result of the use of this medium for transmissions by or to RNA.
apologies as well…
On Dec 20, 2017, at 21:51, Aslam Mohamed <aslam@rnaip.com> wrote:
My apologies too.
Best Regards Aslam Mohamed.Attorney USA Business Development
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On Dec 20, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Luca Barbero <luca.barbero@studiobarbero.com <mailto:luca.barbero@studiobarbero.com>> wrote:
Dear Christopher,
unfortunately I will not make it for the call of tonight. Please accept my apologies and extend them to the other participants.
Kind regards.
Luca
<image001.gif> <http://www.studiobarbero.com/>
Dr. Luca Barbero luca.barbero@studiobarbero.com <mailto:luca.barbero@studiobarbero.com>
STUDIO BARBERO S.p.A. Corso Massimo d’Azeglio 57 - 10126 Torino - Italy cell. +39 349 8847686 tel. +39 011 3810600 | fax +39 011 3810601 luca.barbero@pec.studiobarbero.it <mailto:luca.barbero@pec.studiobarbero.it> http://www.studiobarbero.com <http://www.studiobarbero.com/>
Cap. Soc. i.v. / Paid-up Capital € 180.000,00 | REA 1203429 Reg. Imp. TO | C.F. e P. IVA / VAT IT11313300011 RC Professionale / Professional Liability Insurance n. 109H5271 - Zurich Insurance Plc € 2.169.119,00
Il presente messaggio è indirizzato unicamente al destinatario indicato e potrebbe contenere informazioni riservate e confidenziali. Qualora l’aveste ricevuto per errore, vi chiediamo cortesemente di avvisarci a mezzo posta elettronica e di cancellare immediatamente il messaggio ed i relativi allegati. Ogni riproduzione, distribuzione o copia non autorizzata del contenuto della presente comunicazione è espressamente vietata. This message is addressed exclusively to the indicated recipient(s) and could contain privileged and/or confidential information. Should you have receive it in error, we kindly ask you to notify us by return e-mail and immediately delete the message and the related annexes. Any unauthorized disclosure, distribution or copying of the content of the present communication is expressly prohibited.
Da: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>] Per conto di lists@christopherwilkinson.eu <mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> Inviato: martedì 19 dicembre 2017 09:03 A: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Oggetto: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5: Conference call, 21.00 UTC, 20 December 2017 Priorità: Alta
Good morning: with a view to our conference call tomorrow, 21.00 UTC, please find below the proposed agenda:
1. Welcome; Updates on Statement of Interests (SOI)
2. Agenda review and length of calls. The Co-Leaders have suggested that these calls be for 90 minutes, but since this call was announced for 60 minutes, we shall decide at the beginning of the meeting about the duration of this and future calls.
3. 2nd reading of the draft Terms of Reference (already circulated by Staff)
4. Discussion on key risks and rules for geographic terms at the top level
5. AOB
The Adobe Connect Room is at:
https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/ <https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5/>
I look forward to your joining the call. Regards
Christopher Wilkinson Co-Leader, At Large
PS: Under point 3, I have added the reference to rules in order to have balanced discussion by reference to the exiting rules in the Application Guide Book (AGB) _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5>
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participants (13)
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Annebeth Lange -
Arasteh -
Aslam Mohamed -
Bram Fudzulani -
Dave Kissoondoyal -
Emily Barabas -
Jorge.Cancio＠bakom.admin.ch -
Kavouss Arasteh
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Kris Seeburn -
lists＠christopherwilkinson.eu -
Luca Barbero -
Paul Rosenzweig -
Sebastien Pensis