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SSAC response to advice request
by avri doria June 6, 2016

June 6, 2016

FYI SSAC has released a SAC082 https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-082-en.pdf in response to this groups request "seeking assistance in building a catalog of existing Advice or Statements for Working Group consideration during its deliberations. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Pre-ICANN56 Policy Update Webinar Announcement
by Nathalie Peregrine June 2, 2016

June 2, 2016

PRE-ICANN56 POLICY UPDATE WEBINAR <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-06-02-en#><https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-06-02-en#><https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-06-02-en#><https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-06-02-en#><https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-06-02-en#><https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-06-02-en#> Please RSVP via this form<http://goo.gl/forms/NEFg46A88QnWK8Z33> by 10 June 2016. Remote participation details will be sent the week of 13 June 2016. The ICANN Policy Development Support Team will provide a Policy Update Webinar on Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 10:00 UTC and 19:00 UTC, in preparation for the upcoming ICANN Policy Forum in Helsinki. The purpose of the webinar is to summarize policy activities across the ICANN policy development community and briefing the community on the Cross-Community sessions taking place in Helsinki. Cross-Community Sessions Briefings: * ICANN Accountability & Cross-Community Working Group (CCWG) Update * Charter for the Cross-Community Working Group (CCWG) on the use of new generic Top Level Domain (gTLD) Auction Proceeds * Draft Framework of Principles for Future Cross-Community Working Groups * New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Policy Development Process (PDP) * Next Generation generic Top Level Domain (gTLD) Registration Directory Service (WHOIS) Policy Development Process (PDP) * Review of All Rights Protection Mechanisms in all generic Top Level Domains (gTLDs) Policy Development Process (PDP) Supporting Organizations & Advisory Committee Updates: * Address Supporting Organization (ASO) and Regional Internet Registries (RIR) Policy Development * Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO) * ICANN Operational Plan & Budget * Country & Other Geographic Names Forum * Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) * GNSO Review * Possible Modification of the WHOIS Conflicts with Local Law Procedure * At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and At-Large Community * Policy Advice Development * Next Steps on the At-Large Review * Activities at ICANN56, including Outreach and Engagement and Regional At-Large Organizations (RALO) Sessions * Government Advisory Committee (GAC) * 2-Character Labels and Country Names as Second Level Domains in New generic Top Level Domains (gTLDs) * Advice Effectiveness * Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation * International Governmental Organization (IGO) Acronyms Protections in New generic Top Level Domains (gTLDs) * Root Server System Advisory Committee (RSSAC) Advisory * Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) * Publications * DNSSEC Workshop The two sessions are duplicates, scheduled to accommodate different time zones. Each session runs for 90 minutes and will be conducted in English. The webinar will be conducted in Adobe Connect along with a dial-in conference bridge for audio. Participants will have the opportunity to ask questions at the end of each session. During the course of the webinar, questions may be submitted using the chat function in Adobe Connect. Recordings of the webinars will be made available here<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/presentations-2012-08-27-en>. The Policy Development Support Team is always available to answer any questions via email at policyinfo(a)icann.org<mailto:policyinfo@icann.org>. Please RSVP via this form<http://goo.gl/forms/NEFg46A88QnWK8Z33> by 10 June 2016. Remote participation details will be sent the week of 13 June 2016.

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Actions/Discussion Notes: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG 01 June 2016
by Julie Hedlund June 2, 2016

June 2, 2016

Dear PDP WG members, Please see below the action items and discussion notes captured by staff from the meeting on 01 June. These high-level notes are designed to help PDP WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the transcript. The MP3, transcript, and chat are provided separately and are posted on the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/1.+WG+Meetings. Kind regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director Actions/Discussion Notes: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Meeting, 01 June 2016 1. Review of action items (https://community.icann.org/x/A0WAAw) #7: Work Plan: Complete - Integrated comments received from PDP WG; further refinement likely needed in future, including integrating CCT-RT expected outputs. #19 Liaison for Review of All Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs): Staff is facilitating a search for a volunteer. #22 Drafting Team to Develop Constituency Comment 1: Staff is finalizing the document based on the discussion during the 01 June call. Produce final after 06 June call and send prior to 10 June document deadline. #24 Pull data on who applied, how many applied, and how many for at least the top 10 applicants (from discussion on application limits, pros and cons) – ongoing. 2. CC1 Discussion (Working Draft here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gh8ugZAomD2AGNymmVRgKGP9TA2KQ7BkQbrRAEv…) Action Items: 1. Document format -- send as a cover letter with an annex. 2. Staff will produce a final document after the meeting on 06 June. Deliver the letter and document to the SO/AC/SG/C Chairs. 3. Enumerate questions for each section. Discussion Notes: Letter: 1. Staff confirmed that the letters be personalized if the Working Group desires. 2. Move the first sentence further down in the letter. 3. Look at the PDP Manual to determine if "Constituency Comment" is the correct terminology. 4. Deadline: 35 days is the minimum. Increase deadline from 35 days to 45 to account for Helsinki? Annex/Questions: General: Check consistency of use of terms. For example, instead of “types” use "categories" throughout the document. Another example, put “rounds” either in quotes or not. Question 1, page 4: 1. Use "ongoing" instead of "continuing". 2. Risk to "healthy development of the DNS market" or something more neutral, since the competition verdict is not out yet? - or "would the absence of a continuing mechanism have an anti-competitive effect?" 3. What does it mean to make a diverse set of names more diverse? The basic assumption is "Choice and Trust". Question 2, page 6: Delete “further information” comment. Page 7: Change to "Open for only one or a limited number of gTLDs". Question 3, page 8: Take out "further explanation". Page 9: 1. Put rounds in quotes, or drop them from the previous question (check for consistency). 2. Change to: "Does restricting applications to rounds or other cyclical applications models lead to more consistent treatment of applicants?" Page 10: 1. Change to two separate questions: Do rounds create artificial demand and/or artificial scarcity? 2. What is an ideal interval between rounds? Please explain. Page 11: Re-word introductory question. Page 12: Change to: What are the impacts on applicants, users and related parties/consumers from a process that lacks predictability? Page 13: 1. Define DG. 2. Change to: community engagement from early engagement. 3. Move PDP related questions lower, and more of a catch-all question at the end. 4. The more pre-work done, in theory, may lead to less problems downstream. However, not amount of planning will account for all problems that may arise. Page 14: Requires wording help: "Is there a time at which the application procedure in one application window should be frozen until after a new application window is opened for policy review.?" 3. Any Other Business: Work Plan Action Item: As there have not been any objections to the attached draft work plan, it will be considered as adopted by the Working Group, although this certainly does not prevent revisiting and revising in the future.

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Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat from New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG 01 June 2016
by Michelle DeSmyter June 2, 2016

June 2, 2016

Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call held on Wednesday, 01 June 2016 at 22:00 UTC. MP3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-01jun16-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-01jun16-en.mp3> <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-16may16-en.mp3> <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-09may16-en.mp3http://a…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9xGOAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle DeSmyter ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Wednesday, 01 June 2016 Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG call on Wednesday, 1 June 2016 at 22:00 UTC. Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):90 minutes? Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):I mean, is the call scheduled to last 90 minutes? Steve Chan:Yes, scheduled to last for up to 90 minutes Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):Danke Steve Chan:De nada Steve Chan:Or according to Google Translate, Bitte Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):Steve, I have a technical question: Adob asked me to donwload an app (in Safari) and it does not work eversince. While Adobe-Chrome does not activate my mic. Have you heard similar complaints? Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):it has been like this for a week or so Steve Chan:I have not, but those complaints would probably not go to me. I had to download new Java plugins for Firefox. Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):well, then may i please just ask for a phone bridge to +506-8837-7176 justin case I may need it? Steve Chan:Sure, I'll let Michelle know. Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):thanks Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):sorry Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):terrible connections Freida Tallon (.sky):Good evening all Jeff Neuman:Its funny when all you hear is silence....I hope you all heard me just state the 2 minute warning Steve Chan:Confirmed! Jeff Neuman:funny story while we wait.....i used the phrase " I will be out of pocket for the next few hours" today and apparently that is an american expression. A non-american asked me if that meant I was out of money :) Jeff Neuman:To which I responded Yes, I will not be reachable by phone and I am also out of money ;) Rubens Kuhl:Jeff is out of money due to USD 1 per "round" ... Richard Padilla:Hi all Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):Jeff will never learn Steve Chan:Avri, at least for me, you're a bit faint and distant sounding? Jeff Neuman:me too Steve Chan:Much better! Steve Coates (Twitter):I have to drop off for a family emegency. Apologies. Jeff Neuman:Sure. Steve hope everything is ok Rubens Kuhl:What's the target date for releasing the CC1 document ? Greg Shatan:Hello all. Sorry to be late. Jeff Neuman:By the document deadline for the helsinki meeting Jeff Neuman:which I believe is June 10th Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):yes Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):thnaks you avri Steve Chan:no problem Rubens Kuhl:Considering the CC1 documents gets out June 10th, what would be deadline for responses ? Steve Chan:@Rubens, as noted in the PDP Manual, 35 days are allotted Rubens Kuhl:Tks Steve Chan:35 days at a minimum :) Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Hi. Have been on the call for a bit, but was having Adobe Connect issues. Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):@Kristina Adobe connect.sucks as of late Rubens Kuhl:Adobe working for me without issues for the last few weeks... Susan Payne:I thought we were going to ask the HAC specifically to identify ways and what they are working on. or is that in he cover letter? Susan Payne:sorry typo GAC Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):just lost the bridge Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):it was not an open issue Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):just a clarification Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):thank you Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team): sorry I have no mic Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bad echo for me Jeff Neuman:big echo Susan Payne:identify WGs and what they are working on. apologies for typo/autocorrect issues Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):Disclaimer: Carlos didn´t mean to be a pain in the neck, but was aked to take a look at the draft letter from the point of view of English as a second language. Carlos normally respects Avri´s drafting fully. :) Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):jajajajaja Steve Chan:@Susan, we can customize for the GAC. DId you have specific changes in mind, perhaps in section 3? Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Would the absence of a continuing mechanism be anticompetitive or likely to have an anticompetitive effect? (or something along those lines) Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):works for me. thank you Steve Chan:Just a reminder to participants that the CC1 document is available here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gh8ugZAomD2AGNymmVRgKGP9TA2KQ7BkQbrRAEv… Steve Chan:And Avri is making real-time edits during the meeting. Jeff Neuman:I agree that someone will need to review for grammar as lots of wordsmithing going on...including by me :) Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):Question is type=categroies??? Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):right now in this question is a little confusing Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):thanks Jeff Jeff Neuman:I am good with that "type" of change throughout Robin Gross:of course the GAC isn't the only group who can categorize in this process. Jeff Neuman:Understood Jeff Neuman:I think so Samantha Demetriou:Maybe and/or rather than and? Samantha Demetriou:Yes, sorry! Vaibhav Aggarwal:redoubt q Vaibhav Aggarwal:redundant Vaibhav Aggarwal:for the pent up demand Steve Chan:I think we should enummerate the questions in each section Steve Chan:yes Vaibhav Aggarwal:t he first one with artificial one Vaibhav Aggarwal:demand and scarcity Greg Shatan:I don't think they're the same. Vaibhav Aggarwal:right Greg Shatan:Not sure there is such a thing as 'artificial demand".... Vaibhav Aggarwal:the wait time is there anywhichways Robin Gross:"unmet demand" might be better than "pent up demand" Greg Shatan:Although one might say that defensive registrations are a form of "artificial demand" Greg Shatan:I kind of like pent up.... Robin Gross:I don't feel strongly about it, just a suggestion. Greg Shatan:Agree they are not synonymous Robin Gross:don't mind. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thx for restating I found the last speaker hard to hear ... ok to delete Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Have to drop for another meeting. I'll read the transcript to catch up on what I miss. Vaibhav Aggarwal:pent up demand is demand created due to external forces Rubens Kuhl:Have to drop sooner today as well. Bye all! Greg Shatan:No, pent up demand is demand that exists but has no outlet. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yup Vaibhav Aggarwal:so this could be on artificial and pent up and artificial scarcity Greg Shatan:Those are 3 different concepts. Steve Chan:Correct Vaibhav Aggarwal:if it is important for the sake of redundancy, we can ask three separate questions then, depending on the purpose it is serving Greg Shatan:I don't think there is any redundancy. Jeff Neuman:What wol dyou propose for the 3 questions? Jeff Neuman:oops...what would you propose Greg Shatan:On a related note, I recommend listening to "Pent-Up House" by Sonny Rollins; https://youtu.be/yIlpEnsa2d8 Vaibhav Aggarwal:related parties Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):Applicants and users are summarized as conumers in CCT Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):Consumers=Applicants + Useres Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):about the 3rd parties???? Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):its in our charter Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):right Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):applicants, users and others Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):and important others Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team)::) Jeff Neuman:ok Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):other parties Greg Shatan:Good point -- this should be focused on the application process, not the PDP process. Carlos Raul (CCT Review Team):it is clear, thanks Steve Chan:I do not necessarily have an opinion one way or the other, but just wanted to try and provide context. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):agree Jeff Vaibhav Aggarwal:sure. will do. Richard Padilla:got to go bye for now Philip Corwin:ciao all Jeff Neuman:I think once the changes are made, we can review for flow and "understandability". I think we will be fine. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Sorry I have to leave now as well BYE Jeff Neuman:Lets just get a commitment from everyone to work on the list PLEASE :) Vaibhav Aggarwal::-) Christa Taylor:Thank-you Robin Gross:thanks, bye!

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- Proposed Agenda
by Steve Chan June 1, 2016

June 1, 2016

Dear WG Members, Below, please find the proposed agenda for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG meeting scheduled for Wednesday 1 June 2016 at 22:00 UTC. 1. Review Agenda 2. Roll Call/SOIs 3. Review of action items (https://community.icann.org/x/A0WAAw) 4. CC1 Discussion, continued (Working Draft here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gh8ugZAomD2AGNymmVRgKGP9TA2KQ7BkQbrRAEv…) 5. AOB a. Work Plan – As there have not been any objections to the attached draft work plan, it will be considered as adopted by the WG, although this certainly does not prevent revisiting and revising in the future. Those signed up as Members to this PDP WG should have received meeting information from the GNSO Secretariat. If you did not receive these participation details, please contact the GNSO Secretariat for assistance (gnso-secs(a)icann.org) Best, Steve Steven Chan  Sr. Policy Manager   ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536  steve.chan(a)icann.org direct: +1.310.301.3886  mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649 Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages. Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO Follow the GNSO on Facebook: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO http://gnso.icann.org/en/

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- 30 May WG Meeting Rescheduled
by Steve Chan May 25, 2016

May 25, 2016

Dear WG Members, It was brought to staff and the co-chairs’ attention that 30 May is a holiday in the US and in the UK. In order to avoid losing a significant number of participants, the meeting will be rescheduled for 1 June at 2200 UTC. Members should expect to receive an updated meeting invitation from the GNSO Secretariat. Apologies if this change leads to any conflicts for WG Members. Best, Steve Steven Chan  Sr. Policy Manager   ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536  steve.chan(a)icann.org direct: +1.310.301.3886  mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649 Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages. Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO Follow the GNSO on Facebook: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO http://gnso.icann.org/en/

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Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG 23 May 2016
by Michelle DeSmyter May 23, 2016

May 23, 2016

Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call held on Monday, 23 May 2016 at 13:00 UTC. MP3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-23may16-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-23may16-en.mp3> <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-16may16-en.mp3> <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-09may16-en.mp3http://a…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/hQyOAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle DeSmyter ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday, 23 May 2016 Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG call on Monday, 23 May 2016 at 13:00 UTC. Vanda SCARTEZINI:good day Michelle, Vanda SCARTEZINI:hola raul, como estas? Carlos Raul Gutierrez:Buenos dias Vanda. Todo pura vida aqui en Costa Rica. Como va el nuevo Gobierno? Vanda SCARTEZINI:I am arriving at my office, so may disconnect and reconnect during may way throug elevators... Carlos Raul Gutierrez:connected trough my celphone. Thank you Carlos Raul Gutierrez:Safari is asking me for a new Adobe add-in Carlos Raul Gutierrez:and I dont trust them.... Carlos Raul Gutierrez:anybody had the same message today? Michelle DeSmyter:Carlos, go thru this link to check your AC: https://arcps.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm Jeff Neuman:hello all Michelle DeSmyter:you will probably have to reconnect your Adobe Connect after doing this Jeff Neuman:pretty low on attendance so far with 3 minutes to go. I will likely start in 4 minutes Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Hi all Note I AM HERE not an apology after all Paul McGrady:Same for me. I was not supposed to be to be here, but had a schedule change. Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:Thanks Jeff Jeff Neuman:Hello from Sunny Orlando....where I see a number of people on this call are calling in from.... Carlton Samuels:Morning all Jeff Neuman:wow Jeff Neuman:mute please Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):ouch Carlos Raul:Txs Michelle Carlton Samuels:I hear "hello"... Michelle DeSmyter:I will private chat you Carlos Carlos Raul:I had to install the add-in and it is working in safari ight now Martin Sutton:Apologies for joining late Carlton Samuels:All else is quiet on the western front. Carlton Samuels:OK. Now I hear Michelle Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:wow Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:thanks for fixing Berry Cobb:Carlton, can you mute your AC mic please. Carlton Samuels:IT is Mute! Avri Doria:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gh8ugZAomD2AGNymmVRgKGP9TA2KQ7BkQ… Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:yes Vanda SCARTEZINI:@raul, yes I got it too but just ignored Martin Sutton:no sound Alan Greenberg:very hard to hear Carlos Raul:lost susan Vanda SCARTEZINI:not clear sound Vanda SCARTEZINI:not a clear sound and now none Alan Greenberg:Can someone repeat what she said? Susan Payne:sorry - hopeless internet connection! Carlos Raul:BIG trouble today with Adobes new add-in :( Susan Payne:I will type Steve Chan:@susan, agree with avri, the letters can be customized to the particular community body Carlos Raul:Pity Tom Dale is not on the call today to hear his reaction to Susnas suggestion Susan Payne:I am not sure how much you all heard. I think you got the gist, that could we specifically ask the GAC to identify their WGs and what they are working on to drive early engagment. Vanda SCARTEZINI:yes Susna, clear now. you right may be needed to add some words to make it more appropriate Susan Payne:I do wonder whether everyone will understasnd what is meant by "continuing mechanisms" Carlton Samuels:@Susan: GAC doing have traditional WGs and their decision-making protocol is by comparison, relatively bryzantine. Julie Hedlund 2:@Avri: I am taking notes also. jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland):Hi - as I'm attending this call (or trying to), perhaps I could help somehow on GAC matters? Carlton Samuels:@Avri: We have a major definitional challenge with the category "community". Carlos Raul:ok Avri, will take an English as a second language look.... Vanda SCARTEZINI:Carlos, youRight. some trasnlations made driven to worng interpretation Vanda SCARTEZINI:sorry so mnay typos Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes we will lneed to watch the matters of interpretation carefully and ensure question meaning doand opnness is not altered Vanda SCARTEZINI:procedures to apply is one problem but procedures to get the approval is much more demanding of modifications Carlos Raul:get more coffee for Avri Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)::-) Carlos Raul::-) Katrin Ohlmer | DOTZON:+1 Alan Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)::-) Carlton Samuels:@Alan: +1. That is a killer. What we need is a well-defined protocol to address any question that arise during the process Carlos Raul:Good point to be carefull about the difference between applicants, users and people who don´t care at all......... Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Or don't know but are effected Jian Chang_KNET:+ 1 to Kristina Jian Chang_KNET:it's not only for applicants, but for many other stakeholders Vanda SCARTEZINI:right Carlton. first round for brand for instance I had several question to one applicant I was help here and it was almost impossible to get a clear feedback. Kristina Rosette (Amazon):Any examples of what might be a "special post PDP policy consideration method"? Carlton Samuels:I don't like the idea of an issue on which hangs an application is not deemed "resolved" to settle the applicant! Kristina Rosette (Amazon):@Avri: Thanks. I think the question should also ask "and, if yes, what do you propose"? Read literally the special post PDP policy consideration method question only asks for a "Yes" or "No" answer. jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland):Perhaps it's just me, but I'm not sure about the link between the overall question 5 and some of the subquestions. Carlton Samuels:A legitimate response might be "we didn't anticipate this one and it appears the policy framework is silent here. But this is our feeling on what must be done." Where there is no policy then make your best decision and close the matter! jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland):What is meant with "community" in this question and what is meant with "processes"? Jian Chang_KNET:Many applicants for the new round of TLDs may come from the traditionl industries. It will be quite challenging to reach out and engage these people Amr Elsadr:Agree with Alan. There are existing GNSO mechanisms to make post PDP policy considerations. The question (as I understand it) is asking whether further mechanisms are necessary. For this question to be answered, the respondent would need to understand the GNSO mechanisms, and point out why they are insufficient, and how further mechanisms would add value. Rudi Vansnick:@Amr + 1 Kristina Rosette (Amazon):+1 to Amr. And, depending on what is proposed, amendments to the bylaws would be necesary. Jian Chang_KNET:My comment is for the first sub-question about enable "greater community engagement". jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland):As to the last question: wouldn't it be advisable to inform SO/AC/C that there are other phases foreseen where a number of topics are planned to be tackled? Carlos Raul:shit happens Jian Chang_KNET:for the open question, should we discuss the application fee? e.g., the upper limit of application fee jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland):not yet? :P Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury):Should first question under Q6 be clarified to indicate that we are talking about the number of total applications from all applicants? Steve Chan:@Jorge, this concept is touched on in the introductory section. Perhaps you can take a look and see if it's sufficient? Carlos Raul:@Alan i thnk they are good to get a feeling of the temparature in the room Carlos Raul:very valuable by the way jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland):@Steve: do not underestimate how quickly people read things - perhaps a note refering back to that piece of info could work Carlos Raul:I agree with Avri that it is a good time to take stake. We are just a very small sample of the community and we better take the time right now if there is only one way forward. or people have 3 different ways forward. Steve Chan:@Jorge, fair point, and we'll look to adding a reference like you suggest Carlos Raul:$1 for paul McGrady for use the R word Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I suspec5 Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):should rad suspect a second coffee is in Avri's nnear future ;-) Carlos Raul:Dear Staff I dont get the full width of the slides on my screen Carlos Raul:ok Carlos Raul:sorry Carlos Raul:$1 for Jeff Steve Chan:You can find the recordings on this page: https://www.icann.org/gddsummit Steve Chan:The session that Jeff is describing is from day one, Part 1, at around the 2hr 15 minute mark Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Thx Steve Carlos Raul:Good call. We made $2 so far. Please staff invoice Jeff and Paul. Don´t bill Akram, because Staff can´t be charged Sara Bockey:It was mentioned at GDD, I believe by Jeff, to call it "application window" instead of the "R" word. Carlos Raul:As co Chair of the subsequent roudns,e charge $10 he should b Rubens Kuhl:I would add that only 3 specific back-end providers came out against starting an accreditation process right now. Carlos Raul:Excellentt summary Jeff, thank you Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):no holdng anything against you Jeff Carlton Samuels:Have to run to another call. Bye all Karen Day:+1 Paul Avri Doria:I have to drop off right at the end. i again encourge everyone to review and comment on the CC1 doc this week. Paul McGrady:Yes, but INTA has several members on this call right now, even during their Annual Meeting Sara Bockey:thank you all Paul McGrady:Thanks Jeff! Thanks Avri! Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:Tthanks all have a great day Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury):Thank you. Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye. Martin Sutton:Thanks, bye Kristina Rosette (Amazon):By all Katrin Ohlmer | DOTZON:thank you Vanda SCARTEZINI:very good meeting Vlad Dinculescu:thanks all Susan Payne:thanks all Jeff Neuman:by the end of this I will owe hundreds of dollars Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bye for now then Vanda SCARTEZINI:thank you all Rudi Vansnick:bye

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- Proposed Agenda
by Steve Chan May 23, 2016

May 23, 2016

Dear WG Members, Below, please find the proposed agenda for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG meeting scheduled for Monday 23 May 2016 at 13:00 UTC. Agenda Review 1. Review Agenda 2. Roll Call/SOIs 3. Review of action items (https://community.icann.org/x/A0WAAw) 4. CC1 Discussion (Working Draft here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gh8ugZAomD2AGNymmVRgKGP9TA2KQ7BkQbrRAEv…) 5. Draft Work Plan Discussion Continued 6. AOB Those signed up as Members to this PDP WG should have received meeting information from the GNSO Secretariat. If you did not receive these participation details, please contact the GNSO Secretariat for assistance (gnso-secs(a)icann.org) Best, Steve Steven Chan  Sr. Policy Manager   ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536  steve.chan(a)icann.org direct: +1.310.301.3886  mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649 Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages. Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO Follow the GNSO on Facebook: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO http://gnso.icann.org/en/

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Actions/Discussion Notes: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG 23 May 2016
by Julie Hedlund May 23, 2016

May 23, 2016

Dear PDP WG members, Please see below the discussion notes and action items captured by staff from the meeting on 23 May. These high-level notes are designed to help PDP WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the transcript. The MP3, transcript, and chat are provided separately and are posted on the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/1.+WG+Meetings. Please also note the link to the Community Comment 1 Google Doc for review and comment at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gh8ugZAomD2AGNymmVRgKGP9TA2KQ7BkQbrRAEv…. Kind regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director Actions/Discussion Notes: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Meeting, 23 May 2016 1. Review of action items (https://community.icann.org/x/A0WAAw) #19 Liaison for Review of All Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs): Staff is facilitating a search for a volunteer. #22 Drafting Team to Develop Constituency Comment 1: Google Doc created for PDP WG review (see link above). #24 Pull data on who applied, how many applied, and how many for at least the top 10 applicants (from discussion on application limits, pros and cons) – ongoing 2. CC1 Discussion (Working Draft here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gh8ugZAomD2AGNymmVRgKGP9TA2KQ7BkQbrRAEv…) Action Item: PDP WG members review and provide comments. Discussion Notes: Introduction Susan Payne: In the "other efforts" section of the GAC's letter, consider adding their particular WG efforts related to New gTLDs in their particular outreach letter. General Comments Carlos Raul Gutierrez: Offer to review the document with respect to interpretation by non-English speakers. Alan Greenberg: This is a huge amount of work and I think it could be difficult to analyze the answers. Martin Sutton: Think about what likely responses will be received from the questions. For example, on limits, note that we have not placed limits on the previous rounds. If we should contemplate future limits how would you envision imposing them? Avri Doria: Agree. Should look at conditioning the questions. Question 1: Should there in fact be additional new gTLDs in the future? Jeff Newman: Suggestion is to restate the question. The burden should be that circumstances need to have changed; burden is on the side against the current policy. Jeff will make additional comments in the draft to change the tone. Avri Doria: Is it reasonable to ask both questions? Alan Greenberg: What does it mean to make Internet names more diverse? Question 4: Predictability and flexibility. How should the two be balanced? Alan Greenberg: Avoid absolutes -- Example: "every imaginable situation". Importance to the broader community and not just applicants. Kristina Rosette: Focus on trust in the process; none of the questions address trust in the outcome. Paul McGrady: Instead of "imaginable" we could say, "foreseeable". Also ask is there a concern that extremely flexibility will put predictability at risk. Question 5: How can community engagement be improved in the processes? Kristina Rosette: Any examples of what might be a "special post PDP policy consideraton method"? Add "and, if yes, what do you propose"? Read literally the special post PDP policy consideration method question only asks for a "Yes" or "No" answer. Avri Doria: I don't have a suggestion as to what it might be. Alan Greenberg: "If the Board is faced with questions" -- not sure how I would answer. It depends on the nature of the issue. Jorge Cancio: Not sure of the link between the overall questoin 5 and the subquestions. Martin Sutton: "Can a standard be established..." Change to "Should a standard be established" and add a request for examples. Paul McGrady: Add a second question: "If the Board is faced with an implementation issue that is contrary to the policy should the policy be sent back to the GNSO to address?" Amr Elsadr: Agree with Alan. There are existing GNSO mechanisms to make post PDP policy considerations. The question (as I understand it) is asking whether further mechanisms are necessary. For this question to be answered, the respondent would need to understand the GNSO mechanisms, and point out why they are insufficient, and how further mechanisms would add value. Open Question: Jorge Cancio: As to the last question: wouldn't it be advisable to inform SO/AC/C that there are other phases foreseen where a number of topics are planned to be tackled? Perhaps a reference to the introduction could be included. 3. Draft Work Plan Discussion Continued Action Item: PDP WG members review and continue discussion. Discussion Notes: Slide 3 -- Key Questions/Assumptions for Work Plan Design: Jeff Newman: "Are there operations that shouldn't be part of this subsequent procedures policy discussions?" Steve Chan: There are rough estimates for every subject. It is possible that not every subject will result in policy recommendations. Some may just require implementation guidance and some may not require recommendations. There are various outcomes for each subject. 4. Any Other Business: GDD Summit Update Action Item: None.

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Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat New gTLD Subsequent Procedures 16 May 2016
by Michelle DeSmyter May 17, 2016

May 17, 2016

Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call held on Monday, 16 May 2016 at 22:00 UTC. MP3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-16may16-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-09may16-en.mp3http://a…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/yAWOAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle DeSmyter ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday, 16 May 2016 Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG call on Monday, 16 May 2016 at 22:00 UTC. Michelle DeSmyter:yes Janvier Ngnoulaye:Hi to All Sara Bockey:yes Dennis Chang:yes Steve Chan:@Avri, she's having some audio difficulties Steve Coates (Twitter):I can kick off, if necessary. Steve Chan:the feedback is unpleasant... Julie Hedlund:I can hear the buzz too! Steve Chan:yeah Dennis Chang:I hear it too Philip Corwin:That buzz is most annoying Klaus Stoll:Cricket with a bell Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):especially through headset Susan Payne:no Karen:Hi Folks, I was traveling the past 2 weeks. Janvier Ngnoulaye:The sound is not fine at all Karen:Thanks Greg Shatan:Someone may have a cellphone too close to their landline phone. Everyone should mute if they are not talking. Susan Payne:yes why don't we all try dropping off Klaus Stoll:Start the recording, start the meeting and call in the cricket hunter Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):perhaps dial-out to them Greg Shatan:I t ried dropping off and coming back on.... Julie Hedlund:@Greg: Did that help? Richard Padilla:Hello all glad the noise is over Janvier Ngnoulaye:Yes, it is quite well now Steve Chan:https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=58001974 Greg Shatan:@Julie, made no difference, but the problem was solved not long after..... Steve Chan:@alan, thanks for the suggestions. Carlos Raul:Full time GNSO???? Who is full time GNSO...... Greg Shatan:All GNSO, all the time.... Alan Greenberg:@Carlos, those who are not actively part of (or running) other sessions in parallel with the GNSO sessions. Carlos Raul:@Alan I thought the whole purpose of the Schduel for helsinki was to amke progress on policy work, but never mind. We have Greg. :) Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury):Thank you Steve C. Steve Chan:I'm glad I have an excuse if that was fuzzy. It's 12:30 here in Amsterdam + jet lag. Greg Shatan:2 and 5 seem rather similar.... Greg Shatan:in the last set Alan Greenberg:Is limits competition different from stifle competition? Julie Hedlund:@Avri: Probably could just use either one. Greg Shatan:Stifling competition is a bit different from being anticompetitive.... Alan Greenberg:It's been a long day. I am just being argumentative! Greg Shatan:I vehemently disagree, Alan! Alan Greenberg:Shades of Monty Python... Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)::-) Julie Hedlund:@Greg: Maybe it could just be a trifle stifling :-) Carlos Raul:I redommend both of your to go to the argument clinic Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I assume iCals will be sent to us for the meeting Greg Shatan:Not the Department of Redundancy Department? Steve Chan:@Cheryl, they will, but sometimes you just accept the meeting without looking at it :) Carlos Raul:Sayonara Steve Coates (Twitter):Cheryl - I'll folllow-up on that. I don't have it on my calendar either. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Thanks everyone a short call is always fine by me :-) Philip Corwin:Bye all Greg Shatan:Au revoir! Richard Padilla:bye Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury):Thank you everyone. Julie Hedlund:Thanks all! Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Bye Steve Chan:thanks

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