I think we can “recommend “ an IRT but is not a policy recommendation that will go to the Board. But it’s within the discretion of the Council to adopt the recommendation and set up the IRT. Greg On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 4:17 PM Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com> wrote:
Thanks Jeff. Although your comments and Steve’s are helpful, I am pretty sure the public comments on Standing IRT were based on the notion we all understand as setting up an IRT prior to launch and then continuing that body through the launch process and afterward. (I would appreciate clarifying comments from others as to their understanding.) Coming up with another name for the Standing IRT “post public comment period” does not necessarily make up for that, though it could be helpful in the follow-up public comment period for limited topics.
It would also help a lot if you could explain very simply what you think is “outside the jurisdiction” of the Working Group:
1. Is it supposedly outside our jurisdiction to recommend to GNSO Council that an IRT be constituted?
2. Is it supposedly outside our jurisdiction to recommend IRT involvement with the revised AGB before it is published? (I think most WG participants would be expecting this involvement.)
3. . Is it supposedly outside our jurisdiction to recommend that the IRT be tasked with helping determine which “change requests” should be subject to public comment? (In that case, we might have to consider the issue of which change requests should require public comment in the Working Group itself. Here, the IRT solution seems preferable given our timeline.)
Unfortunately, these questions become necessary since they are basic procedural issues underlying the assumptions made in all of our WG recommendations. We all need to be on the same page as to how “Implementation Guidance” will be used and whether or not there will be “checks and balances” that normally operate within a system where staff is consulting with a broadly representative IRT prior to launch and during the drafting of the revised AGB.
Anne
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Lets please keep the tone civil on these discussions and not assume that there will be malice on any side. I think we should expect that everyone will have good intentions in deciding what needs to be done.
All of that said, Steve is correct. The wording I used was intention to convey that the Council in theory could elect not to constitute an IRT, but I think as past experience has shown (and even for the ePDP), the Council does tend to constitute IRTs and I can’t imagine this circumstance would be any different. But that is not a decision for this Working Group.
I do agree with Rubens on the point that we may want to come up with another name for what we are now calling the “Standing IRT Panel” because it can easily get confused with the PDP IRT. Standing Operation Review Panel (SORP) doesn’t sound quite right though not just because of the funny sounding Acronym, but also because it may be looking at non-operational things. Perhaps something with Advisory in it. I first thought of TLD Advisory Review Team, but TART is much worse 😊 Perhaps TLD Advisory Panel (TAP)?
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Em 28 de mar de 2019, à(s) 20:39:000, Aikman-Scalese, Anne < AAikman@lrrc.com> escreveu:
I think maybe that if I am a registry or registrar Council member, I just vote “NO IRT” in the Implementation Phase cause that might slow things down. (let’s get this next round going!)
Isn't that awful when Council members vote based only thinking of their constituencies instead of the greater good ? Guess what, this happened a few weeks ago. And it wasn't done by CPH councillors.
How is it that our Charter permits numerous recommendations for “Implementation Guidance” and permits a recommendation for a standing IRT after launch, but somehow prohibits a recommendation for an IRT during the Implementation Phase?
I believe Steve already covered this.
Rubens
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