Cancelling this Week's Full Working Group Call
All, FYI, we are cancelling the Working Group call for September 3, 2020 for a couple of reasons. We had wanted to use this time to do a deeper dive into some of the Closed Generics proposals, but some of proposal proponents were unable to make it. Plus, I know that a number of you are working with your Cs, SGc, ACs, SOs, etc. to prepare comments for the final report. We WILL continue our meetings next week. Sorry for the late notice. Sincerely, Jeff [cid:image001.png@01D68120.65D19960] Jeffrey J. Neuman Founder & CEO JJN Solutions, LLC p: +1.202.549.5079 E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com> http://jjnsolutions.com
Hi Jeff, Thanks for the update. Would it be possible to change the call to the same time next week - ie Thursday 10 September 15 00 UTC. Currently it is at 03 00 UTC which will obviously limit us Europeans from attending. Thanks Phil Phil Buckingham Sent from my iPhone
On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:58, Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com> wrote:
All,
FYI, we are cancelling the Working Group call for September 3, 2020 for a couple of reasons. We had wanted to use this time to do a deeper dive into some of the Closed Generics proposals, but some of proposal proponents were unable to make it. Plus, I know that a number of you are working with your Cs, SGc, ACs, SOs, etc. to prepare comments for the final report.
We WILL continue our meetings next week.
Sorry for the late notice.
Sincerely,
Jeff
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15 UTC is 1 am in Sidney, midnight in Tokyo or 11 pm in Beijing, so it's also not that comfortable for them. Rubens
On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:40, Phil Buckingham <phil@dotadvice.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Jeff, Thanks for the update. Would it be possible to change the call to the same time next week - ie Thursday 10 September 15 00 UTC.
Currently it is at 03 00 UTC which will obviously limit us Europeans from attending. Thanks Phil
Phil Buckingham
Sent from my iPhone
On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:58, Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com <mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>> wrote:
All,
FYI, we are cancelling the Working Group call for September 3, 2020 for a couple of reasons. We had wanted to use this time to do a deeper dive into some of the Closed Generics proposals, but some of proposal proponents were unable to make it. Plus, I know that a number of you are working with your Cs, SGc, ACs, SOs, etc. to prepare comments for the final report.
We WILL continue our meetings next week.
Sorry for the late notice.
Sincerely,
Jeff
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Which time is most convenient for the proposal proponents, Jeff? Since it is important that they attend? Kindly Annebeth
2. sep. 2020 kl. 22:16 skrev Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>:
15 UTC is 1 am in Sidney, midnight in Tokyo or 11 pm in Beijing, so it's also not that comfortable for them.
Rubens
On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:40, Phil Buckingham <phil@dotadvice.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Jeff, Thanks for the update. Would it be possible to change the call to the same time next week - ie Thursday 10 September 15 00 UTC.
Currently it is at 03 00 UTC which will obviously limit us Europeans from attending. Thanks Phil
Phil Buckingham
Sent from my iPhone
On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:58, Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com> wrote:
All,
FYI, we are cancelling the Working Group call for September 3, 2020 for a couple of reasons. We had wanted to use this time to do a deeper dive into some of the Closed Generics proposals, but some of proposal proponents were unable to make it. Plus, I know that a number of you are working with your Cs, SGc, ACs, SOs, etc. to prepare comments for the final report.
We WILL continue our meetings next week.
Sorry for the late notice.
Sincerely,
Jeff
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I cannot attend at 15:00 UTC on Thursday. I also would like to know more about the goals of the discussion. We have discussed for years and, by our WG agreement, we put the whole issue out for review and comment by the community, including our three proposals. Shouldn't we be waiting for the input we requested? Also, if we change or adapt the proposals, aren't we changing the goalposts of the public comment -- will the comments still be relevant? Is that fair to commenters, or to us? Best, Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annebeth Lange" To:"Rubens Kuhl" Cc:"gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" Sent:Thu, 3 Sep 2020 07:50:37 +0200 Subject:Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Cancelling this Week's Full Working Group Call Which time is most convenient for the proposal proponents, Jeff? Since it is important that they attend? Kindly Annebeth 2. sep. 2020 kl. 22:16 skrev Rubens Kuhl : 15 UTC is 1 am in Sidney, midnight in Tokyo or 11 pm in Beijing, so it's also not that comfortable for them. Rubens On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:40, Phil Buckingham wrote: Hi Jeff, Thanks for the update.Would it be possible to change the call to the same time next week - ie Thursday 10 September 15 00 UTC. Currently it is at 03 00 UTC which will obviously limit us Europeans from attending. Thanks Phil Phil Buckingham Sent from my iPhone On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:58, Jeff Neuman wrote: All, FYI, we are cancelling the Working Group call for September 3, 2020 for a couple of reasons. We had wanted to use this time to do a deeper dive into some of the Closed Generics proposals, but some of proposal proponents were unable to make it. Plus, I know that a number of you are working with your Cs, SGc, ACs, SOs, etc. to prepare comments for the final report. We WILL continue our meetings next week. Sorry for the late notice. Sincerely, Jeff Jeffrey J. Neuman Founder & CEO JJN Solutions, LLC p: +1.202.549.5079 E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com [3] http://jjnsolutions.com [4] _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org [5] https://mmicann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg [6] _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy [7]) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos [8]). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on._______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org [9] https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg [10] _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy [11]) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos [12]). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. Links: ------ [1] mailto:phil@dotadvice.co.uk [2] mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com [3] mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com [4] http://jjnsolutions.com/ [5] mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org [6] https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg [7] https://www.icannorg/privacy/policy [8] https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos [9] mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org [10] https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg [11] https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy [12] https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos
Kathy, The call time is not going to be changed. With respect to the goals, we are just going to do the deeper dive into the proposals that Working Group members asked for when we initially covered the proposals. It is intended as a discussion amongst the Working group members and not intended as any sort of circumvention of the public comments that we receive. This will also give us a head start on the topic to help us address the comments on Closed Generics when they come in. And as an added benefit, it could help us (the leadership team) present the issue on the scheduled SubPro Webinar on the 14th when we present to the community. Sincerely, Jeff [cid:image001.png@01D681D2.EF2F0640] Jeffrey J. Neuman Founder & CEO JJN Solutions, LLC p: +1.202.549.5079 E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com> http://jjnsolutions.com From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 7:57 AM To: Annebeth Lange <lange.annebeth@gmail.com>; Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Cancelling this Week's Full Working Group Call I cannot attend at 15:00 UTC on Thursday. I also would like to know more about the goals of the discussion. We have discussed for years and, by our WG agreement, we put the whole issue out for review and comment by the community, including our three proposals. Shouldn't we be waiting for the input we requested? Also, if we change or adapt the proposals, aren't we changing the goalposts of the public comment -- will the comments still be relevant? Is that fair to commenters, or to us? Best, Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annebeth Lange" <lange.annebeth@gmail.com<mailto:lange.annebeth@gmail.com>> To: "Rubens Kuhl" <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>> Sent: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 07:50:37 +0200 Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Cancelling this Week's Full Working Group Call Which time is most convenient for the proposal proponents, Jeff? Since it is important that they attend? Kindly Annebeth 2. sep. 2020 kl. 22:16 skrev Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>>: 15 UTC is 1 am in Sidney, midnight in Tokyo or 11 pm in Beijing, so it's also not that comfortable for them. Rubens On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:40, Phil Buckingham <phil@dotadvice.co.uk<mailto:phil@dotadvice.co.uk>> wrote: Hi Jeff, Thanks for the update. Would it be possible to change the call to the same time next week - ie Thursday 10 September 15 00 UTC. Currently it is at 03 00 UTC which will obviously limit us Europeans from attending. Thanks Phil Phil Buckingham Sent from my iPhone On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:58, Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>> wrote: All, FYI, we are cancelling the Working Group call for September 3, 2020 for a couple of reasons. We had wanted to use this time to do a deeper dive into some of the Closed Generics proposals, but some of proposal proponents were unable to make it. Plus, I know that a number of you are working with your Cs, SGc, ACs, SOs, etc. to prepare comments for the final report. We WILL continue our meetings next week. Sorry for the late notice. Sincerely, Jeff <image001.png> Jeffrey J. 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I believe each of the proponents have confirmed their availability to attend at the regularly scheduled time. The Call will be recorded of course and if you have specific questions you can submit them on the list as well. We all have to share the convenience and inconvenience of the timing of calls. [cid:image001.png@01D681D2.285BFA00] Jeffrey J. Neuman Founder & CEO JJN Solutions, LLC p: +1.202.549.5079 E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com> http://jjnsolutions.com From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Annebeth Lange Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 1:51 AM To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Cancelling this Week's Full Working Group Call Which time is most convenient for the proposal proponents, Jeff? Since it is important that they attend? Kindly Annebeth 2. sep. 2020 kl. 22:16 skrev Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>>: 15 UTC is 1 am in Sidney, midnight in Tokyo or 11 pm in Beijing, so it's also not that comfortable for them. Rubens On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:40, Phil Buckingham <phil@dotadvice.co.uk<mailto:phil@dotadvice.co.uk>> wrote: Hi Jeff, Thanks for the update. Would it be possible to change the call to the same time next week - ie Thursday 10 September 15 00 UTC. Currently it is at 03 00 UTC which will obviously limit us Europeans from attending. Thanks Phil Phil Buckingham Sent from my iPhone On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:58, Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>> wrote: All, FYI, we are cancelling the Working Group call for September 3, 2020 for a couple of reasons. We had wanted to use this time to do a deeper dive into some of the Closed Generics proposals, but some of proposal proponents were unable to make it. Plus, I know that a number of you are working with your Cs, SGc, ACs, SOs, etc. to prepare comments for the final report. We WILL continue our meetings next week. Sorry for the late notice. Sincerely, Jeff <image001.png> Jeffrey J. Neuman Founder & CEO JJN Solutions, LLC p: +1.202.549.5079 E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com> http://jjnsolutions.com<http://jjnsolutions.com/> _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
More generally one should look at what happens next month when the clocks change.: 03.00 UTC goes from 05.00 CEST to 04.00 CET, (affecting most of the EU) and 03.00 UTC goes from 04.00 BST to 03.00 GMT. (affecting IE, PT, UK, among others) CW PS: Needless to say, ICANN staff will naturally be keeping an eye on exactly when the clocks change in one sense or the other, world wide. ;-))
El 3 de septiembre de 2020 a las 7:50 Annebeth Lange <lange.annebeth@gmail.com> escribió:
Which time is most convenient for the proposal proponents, Jeff? Since it is important that they attend?
Kindly Annebeth
> > 2. sep. 2020 kl. 22:16 skrev Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>:
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15 UTC is 1 am in Sidney, midnight in Tokyo or 11 pm in Beijing, so it's also not that comfortable for them.
Rubens
> > > On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:40, Phil Buckingham < phil@dotadvice.co.uk mailto:phil@dotadvice.co.uk > wrote:
Hi Jeff, Thanks for the update. Would it be possible to change the call to the same time next week - ie Thursday 10 September 15 00 UTC.
Currently it is at 03 00 UTC which will obviously limit us Europeans from attending. Thanks Phil
Phil Buckingham
Sent from my iPhone
On 2 Sep 2020, at 16:58, Jeff Neuman < jeff@jjnsolutions.com mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com > wrote:
> > > > All,
FYI, we are cancelling the Working Group call for September 3, 2020 for a couple of reasons. We had wanted to use this time to do a deeper dive into some of the Closed Generics proposals, but some of proposal proponents were unable to make it. Plus, I know that a number of you are working with your Cs, SGc, ACs, SOs, etc. to prepare comments for the final report.
We WILL continue our meetings next week.
Sorry for the late notice.
Sincerely,
Jeff
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