Actions/Discussion Notes: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG 10 January 2017
Dear WG Members, Please see below the action items and discussion notes captured by staff from the meeting on 10 January. These high-level notes are designed to help PDP WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the transcript or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat room notes are provided separately and are posted on the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/1.+WG+Meetings. Note that as there was extensive discussion in the chat room that is included for ease of reference below following the notes. Please also see the MP3 at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-10jan17-en.mp3. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director Actions/Discussion Notes: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Meeting, 10 January Action Item: Ensure meeting invitations are sent out (specifically WT3 on 17 Jan and WT4 on 20 Jan, but review others). 1. WT Updates/CC2 Planning and Timeline -- WT4: Rubens: WT4 next meeting is scheduled to Jan 19, but actual agenda is contingent on availability of experts (IDN, UA) to join the call; if one or both are we will focus on it, otherwise we will move towards CC2 questions. Action Items: 1. Leadership/staff will provide guidance about upcoming meeting topic scheduling. 2. Leadership/staff will provide background materials prior to meetings taking place. CC2 Planning - Leadership to begin working on initial questions with their respective work track members. 2. Categorization or Differentiation of gTLDs Context on edits in Google doc (from staff): Integrate the CC1 discussion input into this document. Additional New gTLDs in the future: -- Additional new gTLDs in the future: [reading from the CC1 google doc] -- Be more explicit on changes in the document for people not the the call (policy on 2007). -- Good to say that what we are saying is not changing. Categorization or differentiation of gTLDs: [reading from the CC1 Google Doc] -- Manipulation of categories -- concern about changing a category after the gTLD has been granted. -- Need to identify the different categories and compliances. Need some enforcement mechanisms to make changes -- Could a community TLD change on the fly? -- I think they have a contract that binds them to the community. -- If the registry operator wanted to change their contract they could do so. Not sure that there is a mechanism now for when a registry operator goes beyond the scope of its agreement. -- Spec 13...Some categories may need a special request and some might be what the brands have now -- But it is not something without consequences. Future new gTLDs assessed in 'rounds' Action Item: The WG had agreed that at DT should document the issue, identify requirements, and propose a solution or solutions for consideration by the full WG. -- The point is that some have said that the allocation should be similar as to registrar accreditation and others disagreed. -- One thing that is missing is that the existence of the first round allowed us to extend the process to address unexpected issues that arose. Predictability should be maintained or enhanced without sacrificing flexibility -- No edits from previous. Community engagement in new gTLD application process -- No comments Limiting applications in total and/or per entity during an application window -- Not necessarily anticompetitive. Better to say that it is impractical. -- This has to be recorded. The reportage. AC Chat: Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call on Tuesday, 10 January 2017 at 03:00 UTC. Michelle DeSmyter:Meeting page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_a... John Laprise:Sound AOK Jeff Neuman:Thanks Michael Flemming:I hope we have a good turnout Michael Flemming:yes I just had curry with chicken Michael Flemming:a place called coco's curry Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Dialing in now Christa Taylor:I'm on Skype with her Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):another reason to stick to UTC Christa Taylor:She's in the process of joining Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Great. Am finishing dinner so on mute temporarily. Philip Corwin:Happy new year to all Michael Flemming 2:Yes Jeff Neuman:yes Michael Flemming 2:WT2 is also about a month behind at the current time. So we will be picking up the pace as much as possible. Jeff Neuman:i will go through that in a minute Rubens Kuhl:WT4 next meeting is scheduled to Jan 19, but actual agenda is contingent on availability of experts (IDN, UA) to join the call; if one or both are we will focus on it, otherwise we will move towards CC2 questions. Emily Barabas:Next WT4 call: Thursday, 19 January 2017 at 15:00 UTC Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thx Emily Justine Chew:+1 on background and notes before meeting calls Justine Chew:Will help greatly to faciltate participation via email lists rather than attending calls at odd hours. Christa Taylor:Good Summary Jeff! avri doria:and contributing text suggestions and comments to the online drive docs helps too avri doria:peopel can also suggest edits, thogh they can't finalize them. avri doria:i.e you can put proposed edits in. Steve Chan:@Jeff, you had it right the first time :) Initial Report John Laprise:Could staff please begin including a link to the wg page on the ICANN website in the calander announcement? It makes for navgation ease. Steve Chan:@John, are you referring to the WIki page? If so, could we propose adding it to the agenda emails? Rubens Kuhl:early Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):sorry Team I am going to have leave early (now) for an offsite appointment... this is a last minute matter sorry again Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Suggest the "no changes anticipated to existing policy" bullet be clarified in the doc to avoid confusion by those not on this call Jeff Neuman:Thx Kristina......Steve, lets make the policy more explicit in the doc Jeff Neuman:FYI, I added some things that Avri may read from the drive that did not make it in time for the pdf. Sorry Steve Chan:@Jeff, noted - was making some suggestions to Google Doc as you were speaking. Michael Flemming 2:There are mechanisms for preventing abuse of contracttual changes that are preferential to categories like dotBrands. Jon Nevett:Communities are subject to Spec 12 Karen Day:@Kristina wouldn't they lose thier spec 13 or spec 9 exemption only rather than have their RA cancelled? Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):@Karen, you would think. Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):correct, avri Karen Day:so, then you could in theory apply under one category and then "slide" to another Jeff Neuman:@Karen - Yes for the brand TLD, they would not lose the TLD, but rather lose the exemptions. Jeff Neuman:That would mean having to do a Sunrise, etc. Karen Day:by "another" I mean simply generic Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):@Karen: Same for Code of Conduct. Jeff Neuman:@Avri - can you turn up your mic? Jeff Neuman:17-7 Alabama up. mid 3rd quarter Sara Bockey:Roll Tide ;-) Karen Day:Not so fast @Sara - Tigers coming back! John Laprise:+1 Avri Jeff Neuman:good catch.....we will reword Jeff Neuman:17-14 now Alan Greenberg:In the notes on my comment: ...extend the process to address unexpected issues that arose. Jeff Neuman:@Avri - Let me know if you need some water and want me to take over :) Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Thanks, Steve. Very helpful. Didn't want to book my flight only to discover that I was arriving a day too late Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Great. thanks. Christa Taylor:Thank-you! Karen Day:Goodnight all! Michael Flemming 2:Thank you! Robin Gross:Bye all!
Dear WG Members, Staff would like to highlight a couple of specific items that were discussed on the full WG call on 10 January 20017, to both remind those that participated and to inform those that were unable to attend. The WG discussed the overarching issues in the context of the recently completed review of CC1. Resulting changes made to the associated deliberations/preliminary findings can be found here (https://docs.google.com/document/d/16Sd6mpO5MqHl7BHOl9HBENDgUvcqQ04QumbVNfVu...). It was noted that additional work is needed on at least four of the overarching subjects, with the proposed action of soliciting WG volunteers to establish three drafting teams on: · Different TLD Types · Both Predictability and Community Engagement · Applications Assessed in Rounds Please review the Google Doc to gather additional understanding about what these drafting teams would be expected to develop (WG members are also encouraged to make suggested changes to the Google Doc if they feel they are needed). The co-chairs ask that if there are any objections to the drafting team approach, that those concerns be voiced before the end of this week. Otherwise, the following week, volunteers will be sought and these drafting teams will be established to further these areas of work. Best, Steve From: <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 at 9:13 AM To: "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Actions/Discussion Notes: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG 10 January 2017 Dear WG Members, Please see below the action items and discussion notes captured by staff from the meeting on 10 January. These high-level notes are designed to help PDP WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the transcript or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat room notes are provided separately and are posted on the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/1.+WG+Meetings. Note that as there was extensive discussion in the chat room that is included for ease of reference below following the notes. Please also see the MP3 at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-10jan17-en.mp3. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director Actions/Discussion Notes: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Meeting, 10 January Action Item: Ensure meeting invitations are sent out (specifically WT3 on 17 Jan and WT4 on 20 Jan, but review others). 1. WT Updates/CC2 Planning and Timeline -- WT4: Rubens: WT4 next meeting is scheduled to Jan 19, but actual agenda is contingent on availability of experts (IDN, UA) to join the call; if one or both are we will focus on it, otherwise we will move towards CC2 questions. Action Items: 1. Leadership/staff will provide guidance about upcoming meeting topic scheduling. 2. Leadership/staff will provide background materials prior to meetings taking place. CC2 Planning - Leadership to begin working on initial questions with their respective work track members. 2. Categorization or Differentiation of gTLDs Context on edits in Google doc (from staff): Integrate the CC1 discussion input into this document. Additional New gTLDs in the future: -- Additional new gTLDs in the future: [reading from the CC1 google doc] -- Be more explicit on changes in the document for people not the the call (policy on 2007). -- Good to say that what we are saying is not changing. Categorization or differentiation of gTLDs: [reading from the CC1 Google Doc] -- Manipulation of categories -- concern about changing a category after the gTLD has been granted. -- Need to identify the different categories and compliances. Need some enforcement mechanisms to make changes -- Could a community TLD change on the fly? -- I think they have a contract that binds them to the community. -- If the registry operator wanted to change their contract they could do so. Not sure that there is a mechanism now for when a registry operator goes beyond the scope of its agreement. -- Spec 13...Some categories may need a special request and some might be what the brands have now -- But it is not something without consequences. Future new gTLDs assessed in 'rounds' Action Item: The WG had agreed that at DT should document the issue, identify requirements, and propose a solution or solutions for consideration by the full WG. -- The point is that some have said that the allocation should be similar as to registrar accreditation and others disagreed. -- One thing that is missing is that the existence of the first round allowed us to extend the process to address unexpected issues that arose. Predictability should be maintained or enhanced without sacrificing flexibility -- No edits from previous. Community engagement in new gTLD application process -- No comments Limiting applications in total and/or per entity during an application window -- Not necessarily anticompetitive. Better to say that it is impractical. -- This has to be recorded. The reportage. AC Chat: Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call on Tuesday, 10 January 2017 at 03:00 UTC. Michelle DeSmyter:Meeting page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_a... John Laprise:Sound AOK Jeff Neuman:Thanks Michael Flemming:I hope we have a good turnout Michael Flemming:yes I just had curry with chicken Michael Flemming:a place called coco's curry Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Dialing in now Christa Taylor:I'm on Skype with her Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):another reason to stick to UTC Christa Taylor:She's in the process of joining Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Great. Am finishing dinner so on mute temporarily. Philip Corwin:Happy new year to all Michael Flemming 2:Yes Jeff Neuman:yes Michael Flemming 2:WT2 is also about a month behind at the current time. So we will be picking up the pace as much as possible. Jeff Neuman:i will go through that in a minute Rubens Kuhl:WT4 next meeting is scheduled to Jan 19, but actual agenda is contingent on availability of experts (IDN, UA) to join the call; if one or both are we will focus on it, otherwise we will move towards CC2 questions. Emily Barabas:Next WT4 call: Thursday, 19 January 2017 at 15:00 UTC Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thx Emily Justine Chew:+1 on background and notes before meeting calls Justine Chew:Will help greatly to faciltate participation via email lists rather than attending calls at odd hours. Christa Taylor:Good Summary Jeff! avri doria:and contributing text suggestions and comments to the online drive docs helps too avri doria:peopel can also suggest edits, thogh they can't finalize them. avri doria:i.e you can put proposed edits in. Steve Chan:@Jeff, you had it right the first time :) Initial Report John Laprise:Could staff please begin including a link to the wg page on the ICANN website in the calander announcement? It makes for navgation ease. Steve Chan:@John, are you referring to the WIki page? If so, could we propose adding it to the agenda emails? Rubens Kuhl:early Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):sorry Team I am going to have leave early (now) for an offsite appointment... this is a last minute matter sorry again Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Suggest the "no changes anticipated to existing policy" bullet be clarified in the doc to avoid confusion by those not on this call Jeff Neuman:Thx Kristina......Steve, lets make the policy more explicit in the doc Jeff Neuman:FYI, I added some things that Avri may read from the drive that did not make it in time for the pdf. Sorry Steve Chan:@Jeff, noted - was making some suggestions to Google Doc as you were speaking. Michael Flemming 2:There are mechanisms for preventing abuse of contracttual changes that are preferential to categories like dotBrands. Jon Nevett:Communities are subject to Spec 12 Karen Day:@Kristina wouldn't they lose thier spec 13 or spec 9 exemption only rather than have their RA cancelled? Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):@Karen, you would think. Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):correct, avri Karen Day:so, then you could in theory apply under one category and then "slide" to another Jeff Neuman:@Karen - Yes for the brand TLD, they would not lose the TLD, but rather lose the exemptions. Jeff Neuman:That would mean having to do a Sunrise, etc. Karen Day:by "another" I mean simply generic Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):@Karen: Same for Code of Conduct. Jeff Neuman:@Avri - can you turn up your mic? Jeff Neuman:17-7 Alabama up. mid 3rd quarter Sara Bockey:Roll Tide ;-) Karen Day:Not so fast @Sara - Tigers coming back! John Laprise:+1 Avri Jeff Neuman:good catch.....we will reword Jeff Neuman:17-14 now Alan Greenberg:In the notes on my comment: ...extend the process to address unexpected issues that arose. Jeff Neuman:@Avri - Let me know if you need some water and want me to take over :) Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Thanks, Steve. Very helpful. Didn't want to book my flight only to discover that I was arriving a day too late Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Great. thanks. Christa Taylor:Thank-you! Karen Day:Goodnight all! Michael Flemming 2:Thank you! Robin Gross:Bye all!
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