Dear Phil, all Please forgive the directness of my response to Phil's request, but it's the start of a new year (indeed, a new decade!), and as we continue to internationalise our work at ICANN in these new times, we should not lose sight of the fact that one time zone's request for another "more convenient" meeting time inherently suggests prioritising certain time zones over others. Sadly, the balance of participation in PDPs currently means that the "more convenient" time referred to is the *least convenient *time for Asia Pacific. How we fix that problem is another question, and I do appreciate that there's a chicken and egg problem here, but I think we ought to be careful with wording that does not inherently prioritise in choice of language one global region over another. Best wishes, Heather On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM Phil Buckingham <phil@dotadvice.co.uk> wrote:

Happy New Year everyone Hi Jeff , Cheryl , Hi Jim I am really sorry but I won’t be able to make the call later, being 04 00 in the morning . I suspect a number of other Europeans won’t be on the call too .

I was going to suggest that we convene another more convenient and an extra meeting ( via a poll) and make it a “three line whip call “ . all participants MUST attend to discuss the impact/ implications of/ on the Sub Pro ‘s work 1 . The new .com contract 2. The potential acquisition of PIR /.org by private equity 3 The draft FY 21 Operating Plan and Budget released just before Christmas , which is now open for public comment. Clearly ICANN org is looking for further input from the Sub Pro . See 3.5.1 and 3.5.2 . I would be prepared to help put some costings, resource planning and funding requirements together with ICANN . Thanks Phil

Phil Buckingham

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On 6 Jan 2020, at 16:03, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com> wrote:

Cheryl and Jeff – I understand that prior the holiday break, you met with some members of the ICANN Board and ICANN Senior management to discuss the work of the SubPro PDP. Could I ask for an additional agenda item (either stand alone or in AOB) or maybe a response on list as to how that meeting went? Things like topics covered and any feedback from any of the parties on the call that may be useful to the PDP as we continue our work.

If there was an update already provided, apologies for the duplication. Just point me to it. May have missed it over the break.

Thanks

Jim Prendergast

The Galway Strategy Group

+1 202 285 3699

@jimpren

*From:* Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Julie Hedlund *Sent:* Friday, January 03, 2020 12:50 PM *To:* gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org *Subject:* [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - Tuesday, 07 January 2020 at 03:00 UTC

Dear all,

Happy New Year!

Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on *Tuesday, 07 January 2020 at 03:00 UTC *for 90 minutes:

1. Review Agenda/Statements of Interest 2. Work Plan 3. Predictability Framework: 1. Summary Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12_x8zYR9r6zXqfA7dmoosSPH12NmcyJ-2FEjecGr... 2. Proposed Answers to Open Questions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xDaENKupUoHSfIQ20klw0NYZK1Qwm43l56EvISHJ...

3. Process Flow Chart (to be provided) 4. String Contention Mechanisms of Last Resort (time permitting): https://docs.google.com/document/d/16qDoiK6vydQp6a0v9tMvU2l5fcypJY24hCzTIVTj... 5. AOB

If you need a dial out or would like to submit an apology, please email gnso-secs@icann.org.

Kind regards,

Julie

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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All, I agree with Rubens that it is not within our scope to comment on the specific .com contract or what is going on with .org. As Rubens points out, these are already delegated TLDs that have very specific contracts and are unique in the issues they may present. With respect to the Operating Plan, can you all please provide the specific text you think we should comment on? At this point, the Section 3.5.1 and 3.5.2 that I see are extremely general and there is not much to comment on. Also, one of the purposes as discussed on the call yesterday was that a planning group of ICANN Execs, Board members, Council and PDP leadership is being convened to keep the community and Board apprised of our progress for purposes of planning. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 2:36 AM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - Tuesday, 07 January 2020 at 03:00 UTC On 7 Jan 2020, at 00:29, Phil Buckingham <phil@dotadvice.co.uk<mailto:phil@dotadvice.co.uk>> wrote: Happy New Year everyone Hi Jeff , Cheryl , Hi Jim I am really sorry but I won’t be able to make the call later, being 04 00 in the morning . I suspect a number of other Europeans won’t be on the call too . Phil, I was going to suggest that we convene another more convenient and an extra meeting ( via a poll) and make it a “three line whip call “ . I echo Heather's concerns over qualifying convenience of times. We are a global community and the rotation among time zones is the consensus method for handling time zone differences. all participants MUST attend to discuss the impact/ implications of/ on the Sub Pro ‘s work We don't have the power to override the free will of the participants in making them attend or not meetings. 1 . The new .com contract 2. The potential acquisition of PIR /.org by private equity The two topics above are completely off-topic for SubPro, since both .com and .org are already delegated gTLDs. They are covered by public comment opportunities and have been favorite topics of freely accessible domain industry blogs where any discussions on this can be taken. 3 The draft FY 21 Operating Plan and Budget released just before Christmas , which is now open for public comment. Clearly ICANN org is looking for further input from the Sub Pro . See 3.5.1 and 3.5.2 . I would be prepared to help put some costings, resource planning and funding requirements together with ICANN . This one is a topic for SubPro, since it's about moving forward the process for introducing new gTLDs into the root zone... perhaps submitting an initial draft to the mailing list and then suggesting it as a discussion topic for a later meeting ? Rubens ________________________________ The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient. They may not be disclosed, used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you have received this message in error, please return it to the sender (deleting the body of the email and attachments in your reply) and immediately and permanently delete it. Please note that the Com Laude Group does not accept any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. The Com Laude Group does not accept liability for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the group or one of its member entities. The Com Laude Group includes Nom-IQ Limited t/a Com Laude, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 5047655 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Valideus Limited, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 06181291 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Demys Limited, a company registered in Scotland with company number SC197176, having its registered office at 33 Melville Street, Edinburgh, Lothian, EH3 7JF Scotland; Consonum, Inc. dba Com Laude USA and Valideus USA, headquartered at 1751 Pinnacle Drive, Suite 600, McLean, VA 22102, USA; Com Laude (Japan) Corporation, a company registered in Japan having its registered office at Suite 319,1-3-21 Shinkawa, Chuo-ku, Tokyo, 104-0033, Japan. For further information see www.comlaude.com<https://comlaude.com>