Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 8 September 2015 at 14:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-08sep15-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#aug>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#s<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep>ep<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Stephanie Perrin NCSG Todd Williams IPC Sara Bockey RrSG Roger Carney - RrSG Frank Michlick Individual Steve Metalitz – IPC Sarah Wyld – RrSG Darcy Southwell – RrSG James Bladel RrSG David Hughes - IPC Phil Corwin – BC James Gannon NCUC Paul McGrady IPC Susan Prosser RrSG Alex Deacon - IPC Luc Seufer RrSG David Cake- NCSG Michele Neylon - RrSG Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC Osvaldo Novoa – ISPCP Christian Dawson - ISPCP Chris Pelling - RrSG Val Sherman IPC Justin Macy – BC Kathy Kleiman - NCSG Vicky Schlecker – IPC Rudi Vansnick - NPOC Apologies : Terri Stumme BC Holly Raiche ALAC Graeme Bunton RrSG Don Blumenthal – RySG Lindsay Hamilton-Reid RrSG ICANN staff: Mary Wong Marika Konings Gisella Gruer ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Gisella ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 8 September 2015 Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP WG teleconference on Tuesday 8 September 2015 James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Hi all Michele Neylon:Miss? Mary Wong:Oops, sorry for that Michele Michele Neylon:Did she just speak to me and then change my gender?? James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Yes =) Michele Neylon:I think she actually did Michele Neylon:wow Philip Corwin:Now you can star in your own reality TV show, Michele ;-) Philip Corwin:Good day to all Michele Neylon:Phil - yesh Mary Wong:Document is unsync'd steve metalitz:@Staff could you put the text up on screen pls? Mary Wong:Isn't it showing? It is for me - let me know! James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:I see it Alex Deacon:works for me James Bladel:Might be a cxn issue for Steve? Val S.:I see it too Frank Michlick:I think it froze for Steve Kathy:Steve: I see many more people in the chatroom P:I can see the content on the screen! Luc Seufer:does this mean we can type anything here and pretend Steve agrees to it and he won't be able to counter it? Gisella Gruber:Marika has joined the call as well Val S.:Electronic requests P:Gisella, I'm just listed as "P". I can't figure out how to change that. I tried logging out and in again. Sorry!! P:PS: Paul McGrady Gisella Gruber:Thank you P! Have noted your attendance James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Paul in the top right corner of the chat window click the menu click change my info then change your name =) James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Sorry Paul the attendees window Kathy:Could I ask Alex for an answer to my question?? Kathy:@Steve: that would work Gisella Gruber:David Hughes has joined the audio bridge Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all, sorry I am late, an unexpected meeting Paul McGrady:Thanks James! Gisella Gruber:Osvaldo has joined the adobe connect room James Bladel:I'm in general agreement, just think we need to clean up the language. Alex Deacon:@James I think when we see the updates in context things will be clearer. James Bladel:Ok. Just concerned that "all electronic communications" opens the floodgates for junk communication. I do not want legitimate complaints to get lost in the noise. Alex Deacon:language clarificaiton is always a good thing however.... Val S.:James -- don't we allready provide that some comm can be filtered by the provider? Mary Wong:@Val, yes - that's one of the options in Rec 16, about what must be forwarded. Val S.:Right. Does that address your concern James? The recommendation applies to that comm not filtered under Rec 16. Stephanie Perrin:Need to make sure that PP provider has discretion James Bladel:Perhaps. I'll have to go back and take al look at Rec 16 Mary Wong:@James I'll paste the Rec 16 language into the right hand side Notes pod. James Bladel:Cool, thanks. Michele Neylon:that makes sense James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Agreed Stephanie Perrin:sorry I have to sign off now, running to other appt. Val S.:That is answered by question 1, Vicky James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Thats what the MLATs exist for Gisella Gruber:Please state your names for transcript purposes Rudi Vansnick:@Michele : isn't there a legal term/period definition for that ? James Bladel:defer to Mary, of course. :) Michele Neylon:Rudi - for what? Rudi Vansnick:the time between the breach and the real stop of delivery service James Bladel:It is september. Last september? :) Mary Wong:@James G, that's what I was referring to; the sampling was done last September. Kathy:@Mary: if you could repost, that would be great. James Bladel:Just noting that we are more likely to vigorously defend our customer info from private parties, vs. LEA. Thanks. Mary Wong:I will resend the document to the mailing list. Luc Seufer:@James, it depends on the LEA. James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Thanks Mary James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Just about David Kathy:@James: Agree. quick note that LEA may be a special case. What I am thinking of more is private parties... although voluntary LEA publication is an issue too. James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Agreed Kathy Michele Neylon:+1 Michele Neylon:malware etc., => hosting provider James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:OPen mic with keyboard Mary Wong:Please mute if not speaking, thanks Paul McGrady:hard to hear over the typing Luc Seufer:that's an old typewriter Michele Neylon:now forcing hosting providers to be more responsive is another problem entirely James Bladel:Like a newsroom from an old movie. James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Sounded like a mechinical keyboard =) Vicky Sheckler:it is inappropriate to suggest in this world that only one service provider should address a specific problem. Vicky Sheckler:we need a multi-pronged approach Michele Neylon:Vicky - I think you're agreeing with me? Michele Neylon:or maybe not Mary Wong:@Steve, @Todd, let me know if/when you want me to switch to the revised Framework language. James Bladel:lost audio? James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Working for me Alex Deacon:audio is good for me James Bladel:ok, just me the.n Chris Pelling:eyah problem with content > hosting company . I agree with Michele Kathy:Please read - lots of great stuff in these subteam 3 materials Paul McGrady:Great call Steve! Thanks! Vicky Sheckler:Michele - i agree hosting providers have a role to play , but so do registrars and p/p services, etc. Kathy:Tx Steve! Luc Seufer:thanks Philip Corwin:Bye all