In my opinion, yes. A rat hole is a deep dark place full of waste and filth. K Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor kiranm@markmonitor.com<mailto:kiranm@markmonitor.com> 415-222-8318 (t) 415-419-9138 (m) ________________________________ From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] on behalf of Volker Greimann [vgreimann@key-systems.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:48 AM To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] The threshold question before Category C, Question 1 As a non-english native speaker, is this such a negative term to warrant this torrent of apologies. If so, I will have to update my speech patterns. Best, Volker Am 29.04.2014 17:35, schrieb James M. Bladel: And as someone who echoed the term verbally and in the chat, I also apologize and withdraw. Thank you-- J. Sent from my iPad On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:11, "Kathy Kleiman" <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> wrote: +1, 2 and 3 to Tim, but with apologies to the Chair for the rhetoric. The term "rathole" popped out. I withdraw it and apologize to anyone anyone I inadvertently offended. Best, Kathy : Agree with further discussion of the threshold here. I do not appreciate that the Chair just decides to call some of our concerns "rhetoric" and then decide on his own to move on. Steve, normally I consider you a very reasonable and fair WG member, here and in the past. But that was uncalled for and clearly panders to your own personal view, not that of the WG as a whole. As a result, this must be discussed further next week. Tim ________________________________ From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com><mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:04 AM To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] The threshold question before Category C, Question 1 Hi All, Here's the threshold question we agreed to discuss *before* entering into the specific issues of the area: Threshold Question: Currently, proxy/privacy services are available to companies, noncommercial organizations and individuals. Should there be any change to this aspect of the current system in the new accreditation standards?1 1 Several WG members noted that some questions in this Section are somewhat conditional, in that a Yes/No answer to one may obviate the need to answer others. The “use” of a domain for specific purposes may also implicate content questions. The WG agreed that these issues should be flagged for discussion when considering the WG’s response to this Section. Best, Kathy _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. 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