Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 20 January 2015 at 15:00 UTC. at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20jan15-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jan The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Frank Michlick - Individual Justin Macy - BC Val Sherman - IPC Griffin Barnett - IPC Kathy Kleiman - NCSG Phil Corwin - BC Darcy Southwell - RrSG Todd Williams - IPC David Heasley - IPC Chris Pelling - RrSG Steve Metalitz - IPC Graeme Bunton - RrSG Carlton Samuels - ALAC Luc Seufer - RrSG Christian Dawson - ISPCP Alex Deacon -IPC Don Blumenthal - RySG Jim Bikoff - IPC Tatiana Khramtsova - RrSG Michele Neylon- RrSG Susan Prosser - RrSG Apologies : Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP Sarah Wyld - RrSG Holly Raiche - ALAC Richard Leaning - no SOI James Bladel - RrSG Stephanie Perrin - NCSG Marika Konings ICANN staff: Mary Wong Daniela Andela Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 20 January 2015 Terri Agnew:Dear All, Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting on the 20 January 2015 Chris Pelling:afternoon all Val Sherman:Hello all Michele Neylon:can't dial in for now - on another call Nathalie Peregrine:Susan Prosser and Carlon Samuels have joined Carlton Samuels:Morning all Graeme Bunton:Thanks Don Nathalie Peregrine:ChristianDawson has joined the calll Don Blumenthal:I figured I would do something substantive by asking for the SOI changes. Graeme Bunton:Section 1.3.1 Luc Seufer:As long as the implementation WG doesn't come up with crazy requirements (attchament siez limit etc) Kathy Kleiman:So footnote to para 12: However, each P/P Provider shall implement this "standardized form" in its own way -- including by website, email, etc Graeme Bunton:Sure, sounds fine Kathy Kleiman:I think that captures it Steve Carlton Samuels:@Kathy's +1 Mary Wong:@Steve, we can move up #16 to facilitate reading and organization Luc Seufer:Forward doesn't imply that PP provider will actually acknowledge (read) the communications but solely transmit them automatically to the applicable registrants, right? Alex Deacon:In 14 - Are the references to "Category E" and "Category B Question 2" out of context in the summary section? Chris Pelling:"automated telephone calls" Steve you mentioned this ? Kathy Kleiman:Automated phone calls??? Luc Seufer:thanks Steve Chris Pelling:yeah, what the heck is that ? Chris Pelling:Yeah I dont either Chris Pelling:Sorry, no to automated phone calls Chris Pelling:we cannot accept calls and them type them out to relay them Kathy Kleiman:It's confusing! Mary Wong:@Graeme, yes, SMS/text messaging came up but there was no agreement on how to deal with them, or whether to include a mention of them. Chris Pelling:I would pipe up but my voice is killing me Luc Seufer:or we remove it all together Chris Pelling:+1 Luc Carlton Samuels:We should leave it open to other forms of communications! Carlton Samuels:@Steve: Yes +1 Mary Wong:@Steve, @Carlton, that was the idea :) Luc Seufer:can't wait for hologram calls! Kathy Kleiman:Does 16 work with regard to Reveal? Kathy Kleiman:I think so... Luc Seufer:its starts by stating so in its current version Val Sherman:Might it be better to say "any practice of providers" instead of "prevailing practice among providers"? Kathy Kleiman:+1 Steve, agree OK to delete relay in 16 Luc Seufer:I think so to Mary Wong:Shall we just delete the word "prevailing"? Luc Seufer:even if we wanted to I know of no technical system that could allow us to automatically reveal Kathy Kleiman:can you read it out loud, Steve? Kathy Kleiman:What is Category B, Question 2? Mary Wong:@Steve, that's right - the point you noted isn't one that we have WG consensus on yet, so it's in 1.3.2 instead. Kathy Kleiman:Tx Steve! Mary Wong:Noted, Steve, thanks :) Kathy Kleiman:Agree about making this understandable to all... Luc Seufer:RAA 2013 Mary Wong:Yes, it's from the RAA Kathy Kleiman:I don't think it should go in a footnote -- but perhaps a later paragraph Mary Wong:Use "a common" versus "the prevailing"? Kathy Kleiman:Switch 16 and 17? Does that make it clearer to anyone? Graeme Bunton:It's not outrageously incongruous to me. Perhaps Kathy is right and we should put it behind 17 Val Sherman:+1 Kathy Mary Wong:Oops, just saw typos in the first bullet point of 17 - will fix. Carlton Samuels:@Kathy re switching 16 & 17: Maybe it would Kathy Kleiman:Re: bullet 4, did we (WG) agree that P/P provider must respond to each and every request for a Reveal? Kathy Kleiman:Consider situations where the request is bizarre (e.g., diapers), or redundant/multiple (e.g., 25 requests) Graeme Bunton:We may want soem language in there to help with that, good point Kathy Luc Seufer:agreed Kathy Kleiman:how to revamp? Mary Wong:@Steve, yes I think that's right - we've assumed but should prob make it explicit Mary Wong:Absolutely! Luc Seufer:@Kathy by adding another bullet precising this apply to reasonable request in terms of their scope, number... Don Blumenthal: Yep. :) Mary Wong:For clarity - this language in #17 is carried over from documents from early October. Carlton Samuels:@Steve: +1 Kathy Kleiman:Tx Steve! Luc Seufer:thanks Steve! Graeme Bunton:Thanks for Chairing Steve Carlton Samuels:Thanks Steve and all. Went smoothly! Val Sherman:Thanks all!