I hope I'm wrong, but I have the feeling that not many others have shared my concern about finding an unaffiliated p/p. Regardless http://www.shieldguard.org/. Don
Doesn't appear to actually be operating. Also, run out of UPS Store in Montreal. Graeme _________________________ Graeme Bunton Manager, Management Information Systems Manager, Public Policy Tucows Inc. PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634 ------ Original Message ------ From: "Don Blumenthal" <dblumenthal@pir.org> To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> Sent: 10/27/2014 4:22:14 PM Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka
I hope I’m wrong, but I have the feeling that not many others have shared my concern about finding an unaffiliated p/p. Regardless
Don
Hi Everyone I think we have forgotten conversations that were held some time ago pointing out that anyone can provide what, in fact if not name, is a p/p service. The example used was a person helping out an elderly relative out by being the front person for the relative’s website. How would anyone know that is the case. But the larger question is the extent to which that is a problem. Granted, once the service goes beyond one relative, to many relatives, to the whole village/suburb, there is an issue. So I think we accepted some time ago that there will always be tiny/small players that will be hard to identify, let alone take action against. And unless ICANN actually forbids anyone acting as a p/p provider (and how would that be enforced!) not every p/p provider will be caught by accreditation requirements. Are we worried and, if so, is there anything we can do anyway. Holly On 28 Oct 2014, at 8:06 am, Graeme Bunton <gbunton@tucows.com> wrote:
Doesn't appear to actually be operating. Also, run out of UPS Store in Montreal.
Graeme _________________________ Graeme Bunton Manager, Management Information Systems Manager, Public Policy Tucows Inc. PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634
------ Original Message ------ From: "Don Blumenthal" <dblumenthal@pir.org> To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> Sent: 10/27/2014 4:22:14 PM Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka
I hope I’m wrong, but I have the feeling that not many others have shared my concern about finding an unaffiliated p/p. Regardless
Don
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Holly, I remember those conversations. In this case, Shield Guard affirmatively is holding itself out as offering a service and has at least one customer. As for what is feasible to control and what isn't, I noted conversations in Los Angeles that suggested that at least some WG members might think that we could cast a broader net than it seemed in early conversations . The idea that law firms would have to be accredited is the best example. That's why we scheduled "revisiting" times. :) Don From: Holly Raiche [mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 5:15 PM To: Graeme Bunton Cc: Don Blumenthal; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka Hi Everyone I think we have forgotten conversations that were held some time ago pointing out that anyone can provide what, in fact if not name, is a p/p service. The example used was a person helping out an elderly relative out by being the front person for the relative's website. How would anyone know that is the case. But the larger question is the extent to which that is a problem. Granted, once the service goes beyond one relative, to many relatives, to the whole village/suburb, there is an issue. So I think we accepted some time ago that there will always be tiny/small players that will be hard to identify, let alone take action against. And unless ICANN actually forbids anyone acting as a p/p provider (and how would that be enforced!) not every p/p provider will be caught by accreditation requirements. Are we worried and, if so, is there anything we can do anyway. Holly On 28 Oct 2014, at 8:06 am, Graeme Bunton <gbunton@tucows.com<mailto:gbunton@tucows.com>> wrote: Doesn't appear to actually be operating. Also, run out of UPS Store in Montreal. Graeme _________________________ Graeme Bunton Manager, Management Information Systems Manager, Public Policy Tucows Inc. PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634 ------ Original Message ------ From: "Don Blumenthal" <dblumenthal@pir.org<mailto:dblumenthal@pir.org>> To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Sent: 10/27/2014 4:22:14 PM Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka I hope I'm wrong, but I have the feeling that not many others have shared my concern about finding an unaffiliated p/p. Regardless http://www.shieldguard.org/. Don _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg
They are operating, even if at a very low level. I stumbled across the company when I did a Whois check on another domain. Don From: Graeme Bunton [mailto:gbunton@tucows.com] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 5:07 PM To: Don Blumenthal; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka Doesn't appear to actually be operating. Also, run out of UPS Store in Montreal. Graeme _________________________ Graeme Bunton Manager, Management Information Systems Manager, Public Policy Tucows Inc. PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634 ------ Original Message ------ From: "Don Blumenthal" <dblumenthal@pir.org<mailto:dblumenthal@pir.org>> To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Sent: 10/27/2014 4:22:14 PM Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka I hope I’m wrong, but I have the feeling that not many others have shared my concern about finding an unaffiliated p/p. Regardless http://www.shieldguard.org/. Don
Interesting, and a nice test case, since compared to other services we have seen, they seem to be operating without any contact details on their website, or any abuse policies. Volker Am 27.10.2014 22:16, schrieb Don Blumenthal:
They are operating, even if at a very low level. I stumbled across the company when I did a Whois check on another domain.
Don
*From:*Graeme Bunton [mailto:gbunton@tucows.com] *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2014 5:07 PM *To:* Don Blumenthal; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka
Doesn't appear to actually be operating.
Also, run out of UPS Store in Montreal.
Graeme
_________________________
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Manager, Management Information Systems
Manager, Public Policy
Tucows Inc.
PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634
------ Original Message ------
From: "Don Blumenthal" <_dblumenthal@pir.org_ <mailto:dblumenthal@pir.org>>
To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <_gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org_ <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>>
Sent: 10/27/2014 4:22:14 PM
Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka
I hope I'm wrong, but I have the feeling that not many others have shared my concern about finding an unaffiliated p/p. Regardless
_http://www.shieldguard.org/_.
Don
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An exhibit to our report? A screen with proper form next to this one with an X through it. At least the page just asks for email in order to get information about a pre-release beta. It's not for signing up. From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Volker Greimann Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:16 AM To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka Interesting, and a nice test case, since compared to other services we have seen, they seem to be operating without any contact details on their website, or any abuse policies. Volker Am 27.10.2014 22:16, schrieb Don Blumenthal: They are operating, even if at a very low level. I stumbled across the company when I did a Whois check on another domain. Don From: Graeme Bunton [mailto:gbunton@tucows.com] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 5:07 PM To: Don Blumenthal; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka Doesn't appear to actually be operating. Also, run out of UPS Store in Montreal. Graeme _________________________ Graeme Bunton Manager, Management Information Systems Manager, Public Policy Tucows Inc. PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634 ------ Original Message ------ From: "Don Blumenthal" <dblumenthal@pir.org<mailto:dblumenthal@pir.org>> To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Sent: 10/27/2014 4:22:14 PM Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka I hope I'm wrong, but I have the feeling that not many others have shared my concern about finding an unaffiliated p/p. Regardless http://www.shieldguard.org/. Don _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. Greimann - Rechtsabteilung - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net> / www.RRPproxy.net<http://www.RRPproxy.net> www.domaindiscount24.com<http://www.domaindiscount24.com> / www.BrandShelter.com<http://www.BrandShelter.com> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook: www.facebook.com/KeySystems<http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems> www.twitter.com/key_systems<http://www.twitter.com/key_systems> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu<http://www.keydrive.lu> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen. -------------------------------------------- Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards, Volker A. Greimann - legal department - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net> / www.RRPproxy.net<http://www.RRPproxy.net> www.domaindiscount24.com<http://www.domaindiscount24.com> / www.BrandShelter.com<http://www.BrandShelter.com> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated: www.facebook.com/KeySystems<http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems> www.twitter.com/key_systems<http://www.twitter.com/key_systems> CEO: Alexander Siffrin Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu<http://www.keydrive.lu> This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
FWIW, there's also yohost.org. I think it's technically unaffiliated, but all of the registrations I'm aware of are with a single registrar. (Unsure if it's a reseller relationship or what.) I'm not entirely sure what "2-layer" means in this case. From their FAQs: Q: Do you handle domain registration? A: We do offer private domain registration. Your domain WHOIS will be protected with 2-layer privacy protection. We see them in registrations for several of the websites we've run up against, like the one for smackjunkshot.com (selling heroin online), etc. John Horton President, LegitScript *Follow LegitScript*: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/legitscript-com> | Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/LegitScript> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/legitscript> | YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/user/LegitScript> | *Blog <http://blog.legitscript.com>* | Google+ <https://plus.google.com/112436813474708014933/posts> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Don Blumenthal <dblumenthal@pir.org> wrote:
An exhibit to our report? A screen with proper form next to this one with an X through it.
At least the page just asks for email in order to get information about a pre-release beta. It’s not for signing up.
*From:* gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Volker Greimann *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:16 AM *To:* gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka
Interesting, and a nice test case, since compared to other services we have seen, they seem to be operating without any contact details on their website, or any abuse policies.
Volker
Am 27.10.2014 22:16, schrieb Don Blumenthal:
They are operating, even if at a very low level. I stumbled across the company when I did a Whois check on another domain.
Don
*From:* Graeme Bunton [mailto:gbunton@tucows.com <gbunton@tucows.com>] *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2014 5:07 PM *To:* Don Blumenthal; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka
Doesn't appear to actually be operating.
Also, run out of UPS Store in Montreal.
Graeme
_________________________
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Manager, Public Policy
Tucows Inc.
PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634
------ Original Message ------
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To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>
Sent: 10/27/2014 4:22:14 PM
Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka
I hope I’m wrong, but I have the feeling that not many others have shared my concern about finding an unaffiliated p/p. Regardless
Don
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Hi All, I may not be able to be on most of the call today, but I want to note a bit of a disconnect between the work of the PPSAI in LA and the earlier work of the draft being iterated on by Steve and Volker. We're not consistent there... as I am sure everyone has noticed. Best, Kathy :
FWIW, there's also yohost.org <http://yohost.org>. I think it's technically unaffiliated, but all of the registrations I'm aware of are with a single registrar. (Unsure if it's a reseller relationship or what.) I'm not entirely sure what "2-layer" means in this case. From their FAQs:
Q: Do you handle domain registration?
A: We do offer private domain registration. Your domain WHOIS will be protected with 2-layer privacy protection.
We see them in registrations for several of the websites we've run up against, like the one for smackjunkshot.com <http://smackjunkshot.com> (selling heroin online), etc.
John Horton President, LegitScript
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Don Blumenthal <dblumenthal@pir.org <mailto:dblumenthal@pir.org>> wrote:
An exhibit to our report? A screen with proper form next to this one with an X through it.
At least the page just asks for email in order to get information about a pre-release beta. It's not for signing up.
*From:*gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Volker Greimann *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:16 AM *To:* gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka
Interesting, and a nice test case, since compared to other services we have seen, they seem to be operating without any contact details on their website, or any abuse policies.
Volker
Am 27.10.2014 22:16, schrieb Don Blumenthal:
They are operating, even if at a very low level. I stumbled across the company when I did a Whois check on another domain.
Don
*From:*Graeme Bunton [mailto:gbunton@tucows.com] *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2014 5:07 PM *To:* Don Blumenthal; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka
Doesn't appear to actually be operating.
Also, run out of UPS Store in Montreal.
Graeme
_________________________
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Manager, Public Policy
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PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634 <tel:416%20535%200123%20ext%201634>
------ Original Message ------
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Sent: 10/27/2014 4:22:14 PM
Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka
I hope I'm wrong, but I have the feeling that not many others have shared my concern about finding an unaffiliated p/p. Regardless
Don
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Holly Raiche -
John Horton -
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Volker Greimann