MP3 PPSAI WG - Tuesday 16 December 2014 at 1500 UTC

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 16 December 2014 at 15:00 UTC. at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20141216-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#dec The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Steve Metalitz - IPC Graeme Bunton – RrSG Frank Michlick – Individual Justin Macy - BC Susan Kawaguchi – BC Kristina Rosette – IPC Val Sherman – IPC Theo Geurts - RrSG Stephanie Perrin - NCSG James Bladel – RrSG Griffin Barnett – IPC Alex Deacon – IPC Kathy Kleiman – NCSG Osvaldo Novoa – ISPCP Phil Corwin – BC Sarah Wyld – RrSG Vicky Scheckler – IPC Holly Raiche – ALAC Christian Dawson-ISPCP Carlton Samuels – ALAC Michele Neylon – RrSG Don Blumenthal – RySG Phil Marano - IPC Todd Williams – IPC David Cake – NCSG David Heasley - IPC Darcy Southwell – RrSG David Hughes - IPC Apologies : Lindsay Hamilton-Reid- RrSG Richard Leaning – no SOI Paul McGrady – IPC Kiran Malancharuvil – IPC Marika Konings ICANN staff: Mary Wong Daniela Andela Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 16 December 2014: Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 16 December 2014 Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all Kathy:Hi All -- on a completely different note, I wanted to share that my documentary (on the ENIAC Programmers) "played the White House" last Wednesday -- as part of the First Computer Science Film Festival :-) Kathy:No Presidential participation -- but lots of students! Theo Geurts:cool Bladel::( steve metalitz:Note that regrets also received from Paul McGrady Nathalie Peregrine:noted, thanks Kathy:We're not meeting next week, are we? Nathalie Peregrine:Vicky Scheckler joined the AC room Nathalie Peregrine:you all have scrolling rights now Nathalie Peregrine:David Cake Nathalie Peregrine:has joined the cal Stephanie Perrin:& Kathy, Wow, congratulations! Nathalie Peregrine:Graeme, i have now promoted you to presented, you can scroll now and all should see Kristina Rosette:Apologies for being late. Needed a few minutes to decompress after my 2 hour commute! Nathalie Peregrine:David Hughes is on the audio bridge val sherman:Kathy - -that's great. Congrats! Nathalie Peregrine:all have scrolling rights now Kathy:@Kristina - 2 hours? It is bumper to bumper out there (DC)? Kathy:Is it? Kathy:@Mary - I like that clarification Kristina Rosette:@Kathy. Yes. Water main break on 12th Street, flooded Metro Center, shut down orange-blue-silver lines (so everyone from VA drove) and then 12th closed between E &F. Michele Neylon:oh lovely Kathy:@Kristina - yikes! Nathalie Peregrine:Apologies from Kiran Malancharuvil Nathalie Peregrine:Don Blumenthal has joined the AC room Nathalie Peregrine:Carlton Samuels has joined the call Carlton Samuels:Morning all Nathalie Peregrine:Please all MUTE phones and mics as we are getting an echo. Nathalie Peregrine:If you are listening via the audio bridge, please mute your computer speakers. Kristina Rosette:Could we flag this definition as a point on which we specifically seek community input (when the report goes out for public comment)? Kathy:Let's try this: Persistent Failure of Delivery = a technical failure of delivery over a period of time after which the system stops trying to deliver? Michele Neylon:Kristina +1 Michele Neylon:that would help steve metalitz:+1 Kristina val sherman:+1 Bladel:Sounds good. I think the key is for a provider to be aware that delivery failed or was abandoned due to excessive attempts. Michele Neylon:I like community input Don Blumenthal:I thought I was. I can hear but I guess that the mic isn't working. Nathalie Peregrine:Don, can we dial out to you? Holly Raiche:Agree with Kathy steve metalitz:James' point is already in the text -- "that the provider becomes aware of." Kathy:@Steve, agreed, but we should also include it with the def of technical failure since the def is really two parts: the technical failure + knowledge of it by P/P (I would put both in the new footnote) Bladel:"Reasonable limits on repeated duplicate requests." Don Blumenthal:My hand was up as a polite way to see if I got the mic to work. No luck. steve metalitz:+1 James on reasonable limits Bladel:There should probably be an "or" bweteen "repeated" and "duplicate" Bladel:Apologies for that. Also, I'll need to drop at 9:30CST, so thanks folks. Holly Raiche:Agree with Kathy on need to there being two parts - technical and knowledge of failure Kathy:should/must -> public comment? Todd Williams:+1 Steve Kristina Rosette:+1 to steve val sherman:+ 1 Steve Michele Neylon:+1 Kathy Darcy Southwell:+1 to Kathy steve metalitz:"should" is not a minimum standard, it's a recommendation Nathalie Peregrine:Phil Marano has joined the call Nathalie Peregrine:trying to find course of echo Graeme Bunton:Could you elaborate Kathy? val sherman:How would these be enforceable if these were merely recommendations? Kristina Rosette:@Val: They wouldn't be. That's the problem. Michele Neylon:suggesting that we get input during a public comment period is not deferring Michele Neylon:it's simply moving forward val sherman:How would these standards be enforceable if they were mere recommendations? Graeme Bunton:So, email or form failed, then Providers must use phone or physical mail to forward escalation? Holly Raiche:I think it should be must - recognising that the requirement is to make the effort to contact and accepting that contact may not necessarily be made val sherman:Sorry for duplicate comments -- also having issues with Adobe Holly Raiche:@ Graeme - I don't think we have agreed on what method is to be used if email contact fails - maybe that is what we seek comment on Michele Neylon:Holly - I'd prefer it were left open Graeme Bunton:Was just pondering what other methods would be at our disposal Michele Neylon:ie. if I want to ring them, send them a letter or drive to their house Michele Neylon:I should be able to choose what method works best for me Holly Raiche:@ Michael - I don't think we are trying to determine what method is used - that should be left open. The question is between saying an attempt must be made doing something differently to try to make contact Graeme Bunton:no disagreement on provider selection, Michele Holly Raiche:Provider selection isn't the issue - I see that as a given. The issue for Steve is whether or not an attempt should or must be made Susan Kawaguchi:If the current process for de-accreditatin ofregistrars works well then I think we should not reinvent the wheel steve metalitz:+1 Holly "provider selection" of the means of alternative relay is in the text already Holly Raiche:@ Michele - apologies for the misspelling - it's 0250 here Kathy:In general, I think there are points newly added in this doc that I would like some time to think about... Kristina Rosette:+1 to Michele and Susan Holly Raiche:Agree with Kathy - spend time on the next calll - next week?? val sherman:pick up? Nathalie Peregrine:trying to find the noisy line Michele Neylon:lol Graeme Bunton:Hooray! Stephanie Perrin:Sorry lost sound, hope we are returning to theseissues next week steve metalitz:+1 on "general recommendation" Nathalie Peregrine:AC audio is still running Michele Neylon:I need to drop Michele Neylon:have yet another call now Carlton Samuels:Talk to all of you anon. Bye
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