Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 27 May 2014 at 14:00 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140527-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140527-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar%23mar> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Steve Metalitz - IPC Kathy Kleiman - NCUC Justin Macy - BC James Bladel - RrSG Alex Deacon - IPC Laura Jedeed - BC Sarah Wyld - RrSG John Horton - BC Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC Volker Greimann - RrSG Libby Baney - BC Michele Neylon - RrSG Chris Pelling - RrSG David Cake - NCSG Jennifer Standiford - RrSG Christian Dawson - ISPCP Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP Don Moody - IPC Darcy Southwell - RrSG Graeme Bunton - RrSG Don Blumenthal - RySG Luc Seufer - RrSG Phil Karnofsky (for Phil Marano) - SOI Todd Williams - IPC Jim Bikoff - IPC Frank Michlick - RrSG Apologies: Holly Raiche - ALAC Susan Prosser- RrSG Paul McGrady - IPC Kristina Rosette - IPC Amr Elsadr - NCUC Tobias Sattler - RrSG Carlton Samuels - ALAC ICANN staff: Marika Konings Mary Wong Amy Bivins Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg> https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 27 May 2014: Marika Konings:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 27 May 2014 Chris Pelling:Afternoon all :) Graeme Bunton:no no no, good morning! Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all! John Horton:I concur with the "Morning" voices. :) Kathy K:Hi All! Don Blumenthal:And "afternoon" for folks in Chris's part of the world. Graeme Bunton:someone needs to mute a mic Jennifer Standiford:Hello all Volker Greimann:Hello, everyone in a good mood hope? ^_^ Mary Wong:Please remember to mute your mic if you are not speaking. Bladel:Which James? Terri Agnew:Libby Baney has joined Kathy K:Our goal, mine and James, was to raise and define questions -- not to answer any of them Terri Agnew:Michele Neylon has joined Michele Neylon:I am here even though I sent apologies Terri Agnew:Welcome Michele, I have adjusted attendance list Terri Agnew:Frank Michlick has joined Michele Neylon:telephone is working Michele Neylon:the wifi here though is really bad Michele Neylon:so if I get dumped out of Adobe I'll try to reconnect Terri Agnew:Michele thank you for letting us know Kiran Malancharuvil:Is the data escrow requirement the same in 2009 as 2013 RAA? Graeme Bunton:Thanks James Bladel:Not exactly. Bladel:2009, registrars had a choice to include PP data in data escrow or declare to registrants that their names were at risk. IN 2013, this choice was removed and PP service data was included in escow deposits. Luc Seufer:The flagging of domain name using p/p would help to that regard.We could imagine offering a p/p temporary set of contact details for the sole purpose of registrar transfers. The set of details would "expire" (the email address would stop forwarding) after a short lapse of time and would conduct to the suspension of the domain name. But we would need to make a second validation process initiation by the gaining registrar (in case the transfer goes through) and the (not) losing registrar (if the transfer doesn't go through).But I think this is quite outside our charter... Luc Seufer:;-) Kathy K:Does the AuthInfo code help, Luc? Kiran Malancharuvil:Well, can the question be included in the framing of the questions? Volker Greimann:reading lucs novel Kiran Malancharuvil:What to do in the case of 2009 RAA signatories that made the choice not to escrow? Kathy K:Agree - can we circle back to this? Michele Neylon:we can get stats on 2013 vs 2009 signees Kathy K::-) Kiran Malancharuvil:Right, I'm just asking that it is included in the questions. Bladel:Those names are at risk if hte registrar fails. Michele Neylon:yes Kathy K:Great - glad we can keep editing online! Kiran Malancharuvil:we can continue the discussion about this part on the list. Justin Macy:+1 to continue to edit on list Laura Jedeed:+1 Mary Wong:We will try :) steve metalitz:+1 Kathy, staff can handle this Kathy K:Can we call it an ICANN-published list? Kathy K:Would it be appropriate to ask a Registrar to list its accredited p/p providers? Kathy K:e.g. on its website? Bladel:Seems similar to current handling of registrar urls. Mary Wong:@Kathy did you mean recommend that Registrars include a link to their Affiliated P/P providers (as defined in the RAA)? Kathy K:@Mary, just raising it as a question for the Registrars... Kathy K:and all Luc Seufer:for those under 2013 it will be mandatory. Luc Seufer:(or at least it's my reading) Michele Neylon:is there text on the screen? Mary Wong:@Luc, thanks - yes I should have said 2013 RAA (and wondering how that may apply if we are talking about linking to Affiliated versus "all ICANN-accredited) providers. Don Blumenthal:Michele, the draft D1 is on the screen Graeme Bunton:Michele's hadn is old Graeme Bunton:hand, rather Graeme Bunton:Michele would like to speak post James Graeme Bunton:(but his adobe is not working) Kathy K:James: what are the two parallel channels of communication? Sorry to miss it... Bladel:one is public, "reasonable & prompt" Bladel:One is for Law enforcmenet. monitored 24/7. Kathy K:tx! Kathy K:What James and Michele say makes sense. Graeme Bunton:++tsunami Michele Neylon:being able to filter the tickets makes sense Kathy K:Learning from the 2013 RAA experience and opening up to various forms of communication to the p/p provider makes sense too Michele Neylon:filter as in divy out to the correct places Luc Seufer:and for the reccord, the LEA referred to are the one in the applicable jurisdiction. Volker Greimann:I am very dedicated to convince you all that that is not what the word was intended to mean Michele Neylon::) Kathy K:We do need to allow time for investigation Graeme Bunton:Agreed Kathy K:Tx for the discussion today! Chris Pelling:thanks all :) Bladel:Thanks Don. Luc Seufer:Merci Don!