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Revised PPSAI Responses to Threshold Questions
by John Emery Nov. 1, 2025

Nov. 1, 2025

Hello PPSAI Small Team, I have updated the PPSAI Small Team Responses to Threshold Questions in line with the discussion at the 29 October Council Meeting. First, I have fixed the typo on TQ K Issue 1. Most crucially the language has been updated in response to the registrar addition to TQ B as follows. ANSWER TQ B: The GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team recommends that Council confirm that none of the 3 original accreditation models be precluded as infeasible. The Small Team would like Council to offer some non-binding guidance based on the Small Team’s discussions on the practicalities of each model. Consensus emerged that there would be no foreseeable issues with model 2 or model 3 as written as they comply with the policy recommendations as written. Most believe model 4 calls for no accreditation program and is inconsistent with the policy and is not fit for purpose, but registrars disagree and believe this would be accreditation by association. Model 1 received mixed reviews amongst the Small Team as some were adamantly opposed to it, while others recognized perhaps its future utility for a possible unaffiliated P/P provider business model to arise that could need policy work. Implementing model 1 over models 2 or 3 seems less efficient and the IRT could reasonably favor those models over model 1. Please voice any objections to the revised language by EOB Wednesday 4 November 2025. Thank you, John R. Emery, Ph.D. Policy Development Support Senior Specialist Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Post Call | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Monday, 29 September 2025
by Terri Agnew Oct. 28, 2025

Oct. 28, 2025

Dear all, Please use link below to access the attendance and the recording on the small team wiki page, 2025 Meetings tab, for the GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call held on Monday, 29 September 2025 at 14:00 UTC. Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you! Kind regards, Terri Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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**Starting in 15 minutes | Meeting Invite | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Monday, 29 September 2025
by Terri Agnew Sept. 29, 2025

Sept. 29, 2025

**Starting in 15 minutes Dear all, Thank you for completing the doodle poll! The next GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call will take place on Monday, 29 September 2025 at 14:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96611661142?pwd=K2VpaHlzNkNuY1J6YzRYcW1sd0VjUT09 Meeting ID: 966 1166 1142 Passcode: Z4B3SUR!U& One tap mobile +13126266799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Chicago) +13462487799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Houston) Join instructions https://icann.zoom.us/meetings/96611661142/invitations?signature=IhYynF97T3… Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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REMINDER | Meeting Invite | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Monday, 29 September 2025
by Devan Reed Sept. 26, 2025

Sept. 26, 2025

Dear all, Thank you for completing the doodle poll! The next GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call will take place on Monday, 29 September 2025 at 14:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96611661142?pwd=K2VpaHlzNkNuY1J6YzRYcW1sd0VjUT09 Meeting ID: 966 1166 1142 Passcode: Z4B3SUR!U& One tap mobile +13126266799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Chicago) +13462487799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Houston) Join instructions https://icann.zoom.us/meetings/96611661142/invitations?signature=IhYynF97T3… Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Final Meeting Monday 29 September 14:00 UTC
by John Emery Sept. 25, 2025

Sept. 25, 2025

Dear PPSAI Small Team, As a reminder our final meeting will take place on Monday 29 September at 14:00 UTC. Please add all your comments and queries to the working document here as your homework: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SOk8cJzH8LZBI-oqfHbXJ9AdLD8ORHylcm0cI00… We aim to finalize the document to send to the GNSO Council for socialization so that it can be discussed at the Council meeting during ICANN84. Thank you, John R. Emery, Ph.D. Policy Development Support Senior Specialist Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Meeting Invite | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Monday, 29 September 2025
by Julie Bisland Sept. 24, 2025

Sept. 24, 2025

Dear all, Thank you for completing the doodle poll! The next GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call will take place on Monday, 29 September 2025 at 14:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96611661142?pwd=K2VpaHlzNkNuY1J6YzRYcW1sd0VjUT09 Meeting ID: 966 1166 1142 Passcode: Z4B3SUR!U& One tap mobile +13126266799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Chicago) +13462487799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Houston) Join instructions https://icann.zoom.us/meetings/96611661142/invitations?signature=IhYynF97T3… Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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REMINDER-PLEASE COMPLETE DOODLE - Week of 29 September Doodle Poll | GNSO Council PPSAI Small team
by Julie Bisland Sept. 23, 2025

Sept. 23, 2025

Dear all, Please complete the doodle poll as soon as possible to schedule the next GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call for the week of 29 September 2025. Doodle: https://doodle.com/group-poll/participate/dJXlGD9a Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Week of 29 September Doodle Poll | GNSO Council PPSAI Small team
by Julie Bisland Sept. 22, 2025

Sept. 22, 2025

Dear all, Please complete the doodle poll as soon as possible to schedule the next GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call for the week of 29 September 2025. Doodle: https://doodle.com/group-poll/participate/dJXlGD9a Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Meeting #5 Notes 22 September 2025
by John Emery Sept. 22, 2025

Sept. 22, 2025

Hello All, Please find the attached notes and action items from the PPSAI Small Team Meeting #5. Please review the staff adjustments to the language in TQC and TQK and edit as you see fit: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SOk8cJzH8LZBI-oqfHbXJ9AdLD8ORHylcm0cI00… Action Items: ALL: Fill out incoming doodle poll for next week’s final Small Team Meeting ALL: Review Staff adjustments to language on TQC and TQK ALL: Review all finalized strawpeople for next week’s FINAL meeting Staff: Make suggested revisions to TQ C and TQK [COMPLETED] Notes: * Paul Spoke to Farzi about disclosure framework discussed for legal and there would be a HRIA encourage IRT to have disclosure framework looked at by legal Staff to stick sentence in on the end (AI Staff to add text toTQ C) * Question from Leon disclosure framework has an extensive legal review. That legal review has been done, which areas or questions they would like to raise for the legal review. * Legal review for disclosure framework is built to make sure nothing went astray. When IRT is done and ready to push go, have the lawyers look at it again. How HRIA is done, the IRT would like NCSG help, they can ask for that help, but not Council issue per se. * HRIA assessment is a task for the IRT once it is finalized. Like a legal review will take at the end when the disclosure framework is established. * TQK: Where we sit in the racetrack of policy and implementation. We are well into implementation work. There are other things going on in the community, but those things are not policy, some are implementation. All interesting and may get things across finish line before us. IRT can't stop its work while we wait for Board adopted policies. Community work will never stop. IRT standing still is not practical, it would be like a pile up on the freeway. * Alignment is worthwhile but not necessary. Urgent requests (adopted but not implemented). * TQK: Agreement with the text, but the wording is off in that it sounded like anything that came out of this would take precedent over polices that had been agreed to since. With Reg Data policy supersedes comes out of PPSAI. It would not overtake policy that has intervened. This can set the current precedent for the moment, but if there has been intervening policy, like Reg Data, that must be taken into consideration here. But we don't have to wait for policy work currently being done by WG to make sense. * (AI for John: tighten up language on TQK) * TQA Issue 2: Concern about assumption that this only applies to affiliated P/P providers. We decided this could only apply to affiliated service providers. That was not the decision of the PDP, as they did make a distinction, this appears to be making policy. * Distinction, if a registrar is not to knowingly do business with an unaccredited P/P service. Did the final report say that this should apply to unaffiliated? Final report raises the issue and suggests that the "may require implementation adjustment" a model may accredit providers despite those not affiliated with a registrar. * Former IRT looked for unaffiliated providers, no provider has officially become known. Final report is vague, and this could be considered "implementation adjustment" as it has not been implemented. * "In the event and unaffiliated P/P service seeks accreditation, then the IRT may need to be reconvened to accommodate that." * Result: softened language in Issue 2. 3.7.7 Clarification it reads that indicates that it only applies to non-accredited entitles and applies to everyone, why we need this if it applies to everyone. Sentence flipped in the end of the last paragraph. * TQ B: text updated to soften language about the non-existence of unaffiliated P/P providers * TQ C: implementation guidance, gist implementation guidance is not policy, but explain why referring to it does not refer to this issue as implementation guidance. It was an intentional thing to not call out this as implementation guidance. If there is concern with this. * What is the difference between implementation guidance, implementation note, and policy. Report does not call this area in implementation guidance. This does not meet that level of weight. * It was noted that some things in the report were called implementation guidance, and specifically this issue was not. * Caitlin: addressed the clear question of guidance and note. Where they appear. Guidance is in the final report and that is language that WG agreed to have in IRT. A note exists in some consensus policy to help CP for what policy language might mean. Example of expired names, notice approx. 1 month prior to expiration 26-35 days. Simply: Guidance is helping IRT and ICANN org and a note is when policy is in effect what it means for contracted parties. * TQK action item staff to add sentences. * There will be a final call next week to agree to finalized text after staff has made the requested adjustments * It was raised that registrars will ask questions about the need to do and what needs to be done. A lot that has already been implemented. Ways to figure out ways to implement those areas. Some things that don't need to be implemented at this point. * This would likely be a letter to the IRT from the registrars to the IRT rather than something for Council to deliberate * Small Team is on track to deliver for October Council meeting Thank you, John R. Emery, Ph.D. Policy Development Support Senior Specialist Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Post Call | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Monday, 22 September 2025
by Devan Reed Sept. 22, 2025

Sept. 22, 2025

Dear all, Please use link below to access the attendance and the recording on the small team wiki page, 2025 Meetings tab, for the GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call held on Thursday, 22 September 2025 at 14:00 UTC. Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you! Kind regards, Devan Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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10 MINUTES REMINDER | Meeting Invite | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Monday, 22 September 2025
by Devan Reed Sept. 22, 2025

Sept. 22, 2025

Dear all, Thank you for completing the doodle poll! The next GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call will take place on Monday, 22 September 2025 at 14:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96611661142?pwd=K2VpaHlzNkNuY1J6YzRYcW1sd0VjUT09 Meeting ID: 966 1166 1142 Passcode: Z4B3SUR!U& One tap mobile +13126266799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Chicago) +13462487799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Houston) Join instructions https://icann.zoom.us/meetings/96611661142/invitations?signature=IhYynF97T3… Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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**REMINDER** Meeting Invite | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Monday, 22 September 2025
by Julie Bisland Sept. 19, 2025

Sept. 19, 2025

Dear all, Thank you for completing the doodle poll! The next GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call will take place on Monday, 22 September 2025 at 14:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96611661142?pwd=K2VpaHlzNkNuY1J6YzRYcW1sd0VjUT09 Meeting ID: 966 1166 1142 Passcode: Z4B3SUR!U& One tap mobile +13126266799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Chicago) +13462487799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Houston) Join instructions https://icann.zoom.us/meetings/96611661142/invitations?signature=IhYynF97T3… Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Meeting Invite | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Monday, 22 September 2025
by Julie Bisland Sept. 17, 2025

Sept. 17, 2025

Dear all, Thank you for completing the doodle poll! The next GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call will take place on Monday, 22 September 2025 at 14:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96611661142?pwd=K2VpaHlzNkNuY1J6YzRYcW1sd0VjUT09 Meeting ID: 966 1166 1142 Passcode: Z4B3SUR!U& One tap mobile +13126266799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Chicago) +13462487799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Houston) Join instructions https://icann.zoom.us/meetings/96611661142/invitations?signature=IhYynF97T3… Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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PPSAI Meeting The Week of 22 September
by John Emery Sept. 17, 2025

Sept. 17, 2025

Dear PPSAI Small Team, Given that there was no meeting this week, please remember to fill out the doodle poll for next week if you have not already: https://doodle.com/group-poll/participate/e3JKRqnd [doodle.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/group-poll/participate/e3JKRq…> Please take the extra time this week to review and comment on the strawpeople documents and updated language from the last call: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SOk8cJzH8LZBI-oqfHbXJ9AdLD8ORHylcm0cI00… The first agenda item for the meeting next week will be to review the comments on the strawpeople, so please all take the action item to get comments in the document this week. We will send out a calendar invite shortly when we have a winning time. See you tonight/tomorrow on the Council meeting! All the best, John R. Emery, Ph.D. Policy Development Support Senior Specialist Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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NEW Doodle Poll for week of 22 September | GNSO Council PPSAI Small team
by Julie Bisland Sept. 16, 2025

Sept. 16, 2025

Dear all, The doodle for the week of 15 September did not turn out any clear winning day/times, so we are sending a new doodle poll to schedule a call for next week. Please complete the doodle below to schedule the next GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call for the week of 22 September 2025. Doodle: https://doodle.com/group-poll/participate/e3JKRqnd Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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URGENT, PLEASE COMPLETE - Doodle Poll | GNSO Council PPSAI Small team
by Julie Bisland Sept. 15, 2025

Sept. 15, 2025

We need a few more to complete this poll! Dear all, As soon as possible, please complete the doodle to schedule the next GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call for the week of 15 September 2025. Doodle: https://doodle.com/group-poll/participate/bq8V427a Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Notes and Action Items 11 September Meeting #4
by John Emery Sept. 11, 2025

Sept. 11, 2025

Hello All, Please see the attached action items, decisions, and notes for the 11 September 2025 meeting #4 of the PPSAI Small Team: Action Items: All: Look over revised strawperson document and raise any comments or edits in the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SOk8cJzH8LZBI-oqfHbXJ9AdLD8ORHylcm0cI00… All: Fill out doodle poll for next week’s meeting Farzi: Look at background on TQ C and share thoughts on list John: Add footnote to link to definitions Outcomes: Tentative strawpeople were reached for all threshold questions, document was cleaned up for readability prior to next discussion Notes: TQ A: Issue 1: Agreement to strawperson as written with minor adjustments, clarified that it was only about definitions and not wider policies Issue 2: Agreement this applies only to affiliated P/P services. Unaffiliated were acknowledged as part of the final recommendations, but no enforcement feasible at this time. Issue 3: Suggestion that further policy work could be done and language was walked back rather than suggesting that the ST recommend further policy work. Issue 4: This was the most robust discussion from the group. Many suggestions about editing and deleting sentences with a compromise position reached. Broad discussion of the role of the IRT. Although the first IRT changed definitions, that is not within their remit, but clarifying or contextual language is fine. * Leon, ICANN org, raised that there are two additional definitions in the RAA that are not included in the final report. He queried if these would then be lost? Should the IRT include the RAA definitions that are in the RAA and not in the report? * Response was that these definitions would likely be lost in implementation unless the Council began additional policy work. Implementation should be done as quickly as possible. TQ B: * Overall, ST agreed that none of the 3 original accreditation models are precluded as infeasible. They offered non-binding guidance leaning toward 2 and 3 * Issues with Model 4 discussed and the heavy lift of model 1 deemed unlikely to be necessary. * Leon, ICANN org, suggested that the branding of “accreditation by corporate affiliation” would be better suited as a description of model 3. TQ C: * Agreement that the model is not binding policy, but was a thought-through example. * Dissent amongst the group about the role of “implementation guidance”. Farzi will take an action item to review TQ C and raise concerns on list. TQ K: * Disagreement on K about whether to proceed or await future policy alignment with issues such as urgent requests. There was a recognition that this may contradict earlier answers to above TQ’s. * Alignment work is fine, but if waiting for issues like urgent requests to be solved, then it could hold up implementation work indefinitely. * If future policies come along, then they should reference this implementation work to see whether they are aligning with it or superseding it * Paul gave a useful analogy of a car in traffic: PPSAI IRT is the car driving. The car needs to keep driving even if there are things coming up in the rearview mirror. It should not stop in traffic and wait for the other policies to pass for implementation work. It is good to be aware of other traffic but not wait for it. All the best, John R. Emery, Ph.D. Policy Development Support Senior Specialist Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Doodle Poll | GNSO Council PPSAI Small team
by Julie Bisland Sept. 11, 2025

Sept. 11, 2025

Dear all, As soon as possible, please complete the doodle to schedule the next GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call for the week of 15 September 2025. Doodle: https://doodle.com/group-poll/participate/bq8V427a Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Post Call | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Thursday, 11 September 2025
by Julie Bisland Sept. 11, 2025

Sept. 11, 2025

Dear all, Please use link below to access the attendance and the recording on the small team wiki page, 2025 Meetings tab, for the GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team call held on Thursday, 11 September 2025 at 13:00 UTC. Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you! Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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**STARTING NOW* Meeting Invite | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Thursday, 11 September 2025
by Julie Bisland Sept. 11, 2025

Sept. 11, 2025

Dear all, The GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team will take place on Thursday, 11 September 2025 at 13:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96611661142?pwd=K2VpaHlzNkNuY1J6YzRYcW1sd0VjUT09 Meeting ID: 966 1166 1142 Passcode: Z4B3SUR!U& One tap mobile +13126266799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Chicago) +13462487799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Houston) Join instructions https://icann.zoom.us/meetings/96611661142/invitations?signature=IhYynF97T3… Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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**15-MINUTE REMINDER** Meeting Invite | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Thursday, 11 September 2025
by Julie Bisland Sept. 11, 2025

Sept. 11, 2025

**CALL BEGINS IN 15 MINUTES** Dear all, The GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team will take place on Thursday, 11 September 2025 at 13:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96611661142?pwd=K2VpaHlzNkNuY1J6YzRYcW1sd0VjUT09 Meeting ID: 966 1166 1142 Passcode: Z4B3SUR!U& One tap mobile +13126266799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Chicago) +13462487799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Houston) Join instructions https://icann.zoom.us/meetings/96611661142/invitations?signature=IhYynF97T3… Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Meeting #4 Agenda: 11 September 13:00 UTC
by John Emery Sept. 10, 2025

Sept. 10, 2025

Hello Small Team, During the 13:00 UTC meeting on 11 September, the Small Team will be discussing the current strawperson document to raise any issues and edit the language as need. Please remember to take a look and get comments or edits in prior to the meeting for discussion: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SOk8cJzH8LZBI-oqfHbXJ9AdLD8ORHylcm0cI00… See you tomorrow, John R. Emery, Ph.D. Policy Development Support Senior Specialist Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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REMINDER | Meeting Invite | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Thursday, 11 September 2025
by Terri Agnew Sept. 10, 2025

Sept. 10, 2025

Dear all, The GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team will take place on Thursday, 11 September 2025 at 13:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96611661142?pwd=K2VpaHlzNkNuY1J6YzRYcW1sd0VjUT09 Meeting ID: 966 1166 1142 Passcode: Z4B3SUR!U& One tap mobile +13126266799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Chicago) +13462487799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Houston) Join instructions https://icann.zoom.us/meetings/96611661142/invitations?signature=IhYynF97T3… Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Meeting Invite | GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team | Thursday, 11 September 2025
by Julie Bisland Sept. 4, 2025

Sept. 4, 2025

Dear all, The GNSO Council PPSAI Small Team will take place on Thursday, 11 September 2025 at 13:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96611661142?pwd=K2VpaHlzNkNuY1J6YzRYcW1sd0VjUT09 Meeting ID: 966 1166 1142 Passcode: Z4B3SUR!U& One tap mobile +13126266799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Chicago) +13462487799,,96611661142#,,,,*0505103780# US (Houston) Join instructions https://icann.zoom.us/meetings/96611661142/invitations?signature=IhYynF97T3… Wiki space: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AgDNGQ Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Notes and Action Items 4 September Meeting #3
by John Emery Sept. 4, 2025

Sept. 4, 2025

Hello All, Please see the attached action items, decisions, and notes for the 4 September 2025 meeting #3 of the PPSAI Small Team. Please note that our next meeting has been scheduled for Thursday 11 September at 13:00 UTC (one-hour earlier than today’s call). Action Items: AI: Paul to add TQ B Strawperson argument to existing strawpeople including Model 4: accreditation by association™ AI: ALL – comment, edit, and critique strawpeople here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SOk8cJzH8LZBI-oqfHbXJ9AdLD8ORHylcm0cI00… AI: ALL – Review TQ A questions and responses holistically now that there is a wider understanding of all the TQs Notes * Jason Kean, ICANN org, gave a slide overview of TQ B with the three original models and a 4th possible model. He also shared the models document<https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpageattachments.action…> * Model 4 would likely be excluded based on the policy recommendations as “no accreditation”, but it was noted that this is essentially how it operates currently * Reiterated that this is a Board resolution that Council approved from a PDP. IRT does not need instructions on how to implement this, only whether these would be acceptable for them to choose from * Model 1 is unnecessary and overly cumbersome. 2 and 3 look good, and 4 would likely require a large policy effort. * Current definition the ST is adopting is that P/P providers are only those affiliated with registrars. This would streamline and apply to 90% of cases * Accreditation could be easily baked into the RAA and does not need a separate vehicle or system in place. * Mary Wong, ICANN org, WG during the PDP understood that practically it will be difficult to be accredited if there is zero relationship. Recognized that practically as a result the accreditation program would attract those providers that have relationships. The WG did not preclude, and unaffiliated provider decided that it wanted to be accredited. Practical difficulties but left that question open. * Accreditation as anticipated by the Board resolution is satisfied as long as P/P provider is affiliated with the registrar and the registrar is prepared to stand in the shoes for enforcement purposes. Model 4 would be the registrar on the hot seat. There would be no contract between ICANN org and P/P enforcement. * Summary: All four models are implementable under the policy so long as all four models end up with ICANN’s ability to enforce the rest of the policy. Model 4 anticipates the registrar would be subject to enforcement on behalf of affiliated P/P. Models 1-3 assume it would be directly with P/P. Slight preference for not model 1. * Although unaffiliated providers have not been an issue, the policy should not close off this possibility that this could be a business model in the future. * For the direct question asked of Council, the answer appears to be YES any of these models the IRT can pursue. Whether or not 4 is viable remains an open discussion. * Model 4 is “accreditation by association” ™ if ICANN can enforce it. This is only for affiliated P/P services * Model 4 neglects the issue of unaffiliated P/P providers there could be future services that would like to do this and would require more of a model 1 heavyweight accreditation process * Mary Wong, ICANN org, At the time of the PDP did not want to artificially limit the market or force particular channels. A lot of service providers that could be considered under the definition. Answering the questions posed, this group agrees. Whether or not it is within your terms of reference to provide additional guidance projecting ahead, it really will be unfortunate if these discussions will take place again in the IRT without more specific guidance. Lengthening the time in the IRT to debate which models/why unless Council provided some more specific guidance. * Ultimately, Paul will phrase this in a strawperson for TQ B to receive the group’s comments prior to next meeting * Rough consensus currently: ST would NOT preclude any of the 3 original accreditation models as being feasible. Model 4 seems to currently be the default but may need rebranding. Some combination of Model 4 for affiliated or “accreditation by association” and possible future Model 1 for unaffiliated business models that could potentially arise. Some ST member hesitance for both models 1 and 4, with no apparent issues with 2 or 3. * Likely to give IRT some “non-binding guidance” based on the discussions of the ST during the call. Thank you, John R. Emery, Ph.D. Policy Development Support Senior Specialist Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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