Hello all, Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool
Hi Kiran and everyone,
As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will clarify timelines and tasks for everyone.
Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 July overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer).
It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
-----Original Message----- From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this train seems to be getting away from us.
I
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m)
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On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello Lindsay and all,
I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb.
As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I’ll need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular option!)
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos t s.com>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi all
While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how we move forward.
Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a poll?
Thanks
Lindsay
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From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Kiran and everyone,
You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign up for each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their report to the WG.
Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the staff-provided template will be useful!)
Cheers Mary
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From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonit o r.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos t s.com>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for lagging on this, but I am traveling this week.
K
From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are ready; thanks so much!
Cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos t s.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonit o r.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Mary
I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope to have the document up and running too.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos t s.com>>; Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonit o r.com>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to give a brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow?
Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in this process.
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos t s.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonit o r.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Terri
Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos t s.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonit o r.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to response #15.
Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos t s.com>> wrote:
Hi Kiran
I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so far?
Many thanks
Lindsay
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] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Dear All,
It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the implications on permissible use.
Has anyone started the work on this?
Kiran
Kiran Malancharuvil
Policy Counselor
MarkMonitor
415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m)
Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the
subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below)
suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please
accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t need this reminder!
If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are
scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would
greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we
will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room.
Thanks again, and have a great weekend,
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889>
Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
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From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37
To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing
Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub
Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)!
It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email
discussions to this mailing list.
Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments
received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to
have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word document.
This is a comment from Web.com<http://Web.com>, which I have now added as ROW 85 on
page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document circulated previously.
I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly.
Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more
general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this Sub
Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work
such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through
Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on Question 2
(dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the last
person do the remaining general comments?
This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same
format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template provided
or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per this week¹s report.
Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together
(having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations
to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG.
If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for each
³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the full
WG with this coming Tuesday?
Thanks and cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889>
Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
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Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing
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