A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hello everyone, Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound? First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August. Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday? Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this. I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call
I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie
On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote:
I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available.
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m)
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On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello all,
Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2.
Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first?
FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw.
Thanks and cheers Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool
Hi Kiran and everyone,
As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will clarify timelines and tasks for everyone.
Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 July overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer).
It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this train seems to be getting away from us.
I
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On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello Lindsay and all,
I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb.
As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I’ll need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular option!)
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi all
While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how we move forward.
Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a poll?
Thanks
Lindsay
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From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Kiran and everyone,
You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign up for each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their report to the WG.
Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the staff-provided template will be useful!)
Cheers Mary
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From: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for lagging on this, but I am traveling this week.
K
From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are ready; thanks so much!
Cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
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Hi Mary
I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope to have the document up and running too.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>>; Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
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Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to give a brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow?
Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in this process.
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Terri
Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to response #15.
Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>> wrote:
Hi Kiran
I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so far?
Many thanks
Lindsay
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Dear All,
It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the implications on permissible use.
Has anyone started the work on this?
Kiran
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On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t need this reminder!
If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room.
Thanks again, and have a great weekend,
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing
> Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub > Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)!
> It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email > discussions to this mailing list.
> Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments > received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to > have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word >document. > This is a comment from Web.com<http://Web.com>, which I have now >added > as ROW 85 on > page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document > circulated previously. > I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly.
> Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more > general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this >Sub > Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work > such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through > Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on >Question 2 > (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the >last > person do the remaining general comments?
> This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same > format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template >provided > or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per > this week¹s report. > Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together > (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations > to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG.
> If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for >each > ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the >full > WG with this coming Tuesday?
> Thanks and cheers > Mary
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Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way? It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work... Best, Kathy :
Hello everyone,
Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound?
First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August.
Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday?
Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this.
I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what.
Cheers
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call
I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie
On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote:
I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available.
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m)
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On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello all,
Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2.
Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first?
FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw.
Thanks and cheers Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool
Hi Kiran and everyone,
As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will clarify timelines and tasks for everyone.
Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 July overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer).
It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this train seems to be getting away from us.
I
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On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello Lindsay and all,
I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb.
As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I’ll need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular option!)
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi all
While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how we move forward.
Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a poll?
Thanks
Lindsay
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From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Kiran and everyone,
You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign up for each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their report to the WG.
Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the staff-provided template will be useful!)
Cheers Mary
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From: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for lagging on this, but I am traveling this week.
K
From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are ready; thanks so much!
Cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Mary
I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope to have the document up and running too.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>>; Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to give a brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow?
Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in this process.
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Terri
Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to response #15.
Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com>> wrote:
Hi Kiran
I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so far?
Many thanks
Lindsay
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[mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann .or g > ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Dear All,
It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the implications on permissible use.
Has anyone started the work on this?
Kiran
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> On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the > subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) > suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please > accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t > need > this reminder! > If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are > scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would > greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we > will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. > Thanks again, and have a great weekend, > Mary > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
> -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 > To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >> Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub >> Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! >> It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email >> discussions to this mailing list. >> Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments >> received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to >> have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word >> document. >> This is a comment from Web.com<http://Web.com>, which I have now >> added >> as ROW 85 on >> page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document >> circulated previously. >> I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. >> Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more >> general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this >> Sub >> Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work >> such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through >> Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on >> Question 2 >> (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the >> last >> person do the remaining general comments? >> This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same >> format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template >> provided >> or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per >> this week¹s report. >> Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together >> (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations >> to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. >> If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for >> each >> ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the >> full >> WG with this coming Tuesday?
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Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance. As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual. Cheers Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> wrote: Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way? It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work... Best, Kathy : Hello everyone, Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound? First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August. Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday? Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this. I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: Hello all, Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool Hi Kiran and everyone, As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 July overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer). It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this train seems to be getting away from us. I Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hello Lindsay and all, I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I’ll need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular option!) Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi all While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how we move forward. Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a poll? Thanks Lindsay Lindsay Hamilton-Reid Legal Counsel Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 and 1 .co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> [fh-1and1] ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or Fasthosts. From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Kiran and everyone, You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign up for each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their report to the WG. Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the staff-provided template will be useful!) Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. K From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are ready; thanks so much! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Mary I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope to have the document up and running too. Many thanks Lindsay Lindsay Hamilton-Reid Legal Counsel Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 and 1 .co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> [fh-1and1] ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. 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From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>; Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to give a brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in this process. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Terri Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. Many thanks Lindsay Lindsay Hamilton-Reid Legal Counsel Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 and 1 .co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> [fh-1and1] ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or Fasthosts. From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to response #15. Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote: Hi Kiran I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so far? Many thanks Lindsay -----Original Message----- From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann .or g ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Dear All, It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the implications on permissible use. Has anyone started the work on this? Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138><tel:415-419-9138> (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t need this reminder! If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. Thanks again, and have a great weekend, Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email discussions to this mailing list. Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word document. This is a comment from Web.com<http://Web.com><http://Web.com><http://Web.com>, which I have now added as ROW 85 on page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document circulated previously. I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this Sub Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on Question 2 (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the last person do the remaining general comments? This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template provided or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per this week¹s report. Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for each ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the full WG with this coming Tuesday? Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor ont o .ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing testing SP _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 -- Terri Stumme Intelligence Analyst <image001.jpg> _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2
Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy :
Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance.
As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual.
Cheers Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com <mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> wrote:
Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way?
It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work...
Best, Kathy
:
Hello everyone,
Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound?
First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August.
Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday?
Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this.
I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what.
Cheers
Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email:mary.wong@icann.org
-----Original Message----- From:<gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To:"gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call
I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie
On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote:
I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available.
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m)
Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong<mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello all,
Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2.
Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first?
FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw.
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email:mary.wong@icann.org
-----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong<mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc:"gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool
> Hi Kiran and everyone, > > As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly > administrative, > i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move > forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on > remaining > tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the > petitions > and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will > clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. > > Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 > July > overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, > and > picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly > relevant to > this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent > response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the > additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub > Team > - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two > additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help > with > incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you > prefer). > > It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I > complete > the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary > recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, > and of > course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to > your > material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so > everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. > > Thanks and cheers > > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email:mary.wong@icann.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kiran Malancharuvil<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 > To: Mary Wong<mary.wong@icann.org> > Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>, > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > >> Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will >> listen >> to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or >> out, >> can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but >> this >> train seems to be getting away from us. >> >> I >> >> Kiran Malancharuvil >> Policy Counselor >> MarkMonitor >> 415-419-9138 (m) >> >> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >> >> On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong >> <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >> >> Hello Lindsay and all, >> >> I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: >> http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. >> >> As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), >> I’ll >> need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a >> couple of >> times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at >> their >> earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a >> popular >> option!) >> >> Thanks and cheers >> Mary >> >> Mary Wong >> Senior Policy Director >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >> Email:mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >> >> >> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >> >> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >> hos >> t >> s.com>> >> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 >> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >> Hi all >> >> While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to >> deal >> with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even >> sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how >> we >> move forward. >> >> Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a >> poll? >> >> Thanks >> >> Lindsay >> >> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >> Legal Counsel >> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >> >> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >> and >> 1 >> .co.uk> >> www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >> www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >> >> [fh-1and1] >> >> >> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >> Fasthosts >> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >> name >> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >> Registered in >> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >> >> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >> should not >> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >> provided >> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >> subsequently >> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >> Fasthosts. >> >> >> >> From: >> gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong >> Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 >> Cc:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >> Hi Kiran and everyone, >> >> You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 >> (for >> Section 1.3.2):https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 >> (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work >> into >> “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign >> up for >> each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by >> staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on >> preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y >> number >> of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their >> report to the WG. >> >> Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works >> best >> for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub >> Team >> and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the >> staff-provided template will be useful!) >> >> Cheers >> Mary >> >> Mary Wong >> Senior Policy Director >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >> Email:mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >> >> From: Kiran Malancharuvil >> >> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >> nit >> o >> r.com>> >> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 >> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >> Lindsay >> Hamilton-Reid >> >> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >> hos >> t >> s.com>>, Terri Stumme >> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >> Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for >> lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. >> >> K >> >> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM >> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme >> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; >> gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >> Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in >> addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. >> Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if >> appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you >> are >> ready; thanks so much! >> >> Cheers >> Mary >> >> Mary Wong >> Senior Policy Director >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >> Email:mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >> >> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >> >> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >> hos >> t >> s.com>> >> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 >> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >> Terri >> Stumme >> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >> >> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >> nit >> o >> r.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >> Hi Mary >> >> I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also >> hope >> to have the document up and running too. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Lindsay >> >> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >> Legal Counsel >> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >> >> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >> and >> 1 >> .co.uk> >> www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >> www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >> >> [fh-1and1] >> >> >> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >> Fasthosts >> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >> name >> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >> Registered in >> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >> >> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >> should not >> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >> provided >> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >> subsequently >> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >> Fasthosts. >> >> >> >> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 >> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >> >> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >> hos >> t >> s.com>>; Terri Stumme >> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >> >> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >> nit >> o >> r.com>>;gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >> Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take >> on >> Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous >> comments). If >> it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to >> give a >> brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? >> >> Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a >> team >> of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss >> their >> findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others >> to do >> the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, >> please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff >> in >> this process. >> >> Thanks and cheers >> Mary >> >> Mary Wong >> Senior Policy Director >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >> Email:mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >> >> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >> >> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >> hos >> t >> s.com>> >> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 >> To: Terri Stumme >> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >> >> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >> nit >> o >> r.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >> "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >> Hi Terri >> >> Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on >> question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the >> relevant >> questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Lindsay >> >> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >> Legal Counsel >> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >> >> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >> and >> 1 >> .co.uk> >> www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >> www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >> >> [fh-1and1] >> >> >> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >> Fasthosts >> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >> name >> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >> Registered in >> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >> >> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >> should not >> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >> provided >> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >> subsequently >> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >> Fasthosts. >> >> >> >> From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] >> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 >> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >> >> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >> hos >> t >> s.com>> >> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >> >> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >> nit >> o >> r.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; >> gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >> I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking >> longer >> than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to >> response #15. >> >> Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? >> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >> >> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >> hos >> t >> s.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Kiran >> >> >> >> I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no >> idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different >> question. I >> should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is >> going to >> take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done >> so >> far? >> >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> >> Lindsay >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >> >> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann >> .or >> g >>> ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil >> Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 >> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >> Cc:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >> >> >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and >> the >> implications on permissible use. >> >> >> >> Has anyone started the work on this? >> >> >> >> Kiran >> >> >> >> Kiran Malancharuvil >> >> Policy Counselor >> >> MarkMonitor >> >> 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >> >> >> >>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong >>> <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >>> Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the >>> subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) >>> suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please >>> accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t >>> need >>> this reminder! >>> If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are >>> scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would >>> greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we >>> will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. >>> Thanks again, and have a great weekend, >>> Mary >>> Mary Wong >>> Senior Policy Director >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>> Email:mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 >>> To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>> Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub >>>> Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! >>>> It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email >>>> discussions to this mailing list. >>>> Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments >>>> received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to >>>> have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word >>>> document. >>>> This is a comment fromWeb.com <http://Web.com><http://Web.com>, which I have now >>>> added >>>> as ROW 85 on >>>> page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document >>>> circulated previously. >>>> I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. >>>> Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more >>>> general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this >>>> Sub >>>> Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work >>>> such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through >>>> Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on >>>> Question 2 >>>> (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the >>>> last >>>> person do the remaining general comments? >>>> This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same >>>> format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template >>>> provided >>>> or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per >>>> this week¹s report. >>>> Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together >>>> (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations >>>> to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. >>>> If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for >>>> each >>>> ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the >>>> full >>>> WG with this coming Tuesday? >>>> Thanks and cheers >>>> Mary >>>> Mary Wong >>>> Senior Policy Director >>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>> Email:mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: >>>> >>>> <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin >>>> >>>> <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor >>>> ont >>>> o >>>> .ca>> >>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 >>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>>> testing >>>>> SP >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >> >> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >> >> >> >> -- >> Terri Stumme >> Intelligence Analyst >> <image001.jpg> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2
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Hi again Kathy and everyone, We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG. As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things one, discuss and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week. What do you think? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy :
Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance.
As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual.
Cheers Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> wrote:
Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way?
It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work...
Best, Kathy
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Hello everyone,
Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound?
First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August.
Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday?
Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this.
I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what.
Cheers
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call
I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie
On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote:
I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available.
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m)
Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
> On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> > <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: > > Hello all, > > Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 > August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 > responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for > BOTH > Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. > > Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting > this > Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we > try > to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? > > > FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest > documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, > and > Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: > https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email: mary.wong@icann.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to > Review Tool > > Hi Kiran and everyone, > > As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly > administrative, > i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move > forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on > remaining > tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the > petitions > and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will > clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. > > Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 > July > overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, > and > picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly > relevant to > this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent > response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the > additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub > Team > - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two > additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help > with > incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you > prefer). > > It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I > complete > the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary > recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, > and of > course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to > your > material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so > everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. > > Thanks and cheers > > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email: mary.wong@icann.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> , > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will > listen > to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or > out, > can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but > this > train seems to be getting away from us. > > I > > Kiran Malancharuvil > Policy Counselor > MarkMonitor > 415-419-9138 (m) > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > > Hello Lindsay and all, > > I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: > http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. > > As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), > I’ll > need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a > couple of > times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at > their > earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a > popular > option!) > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi all > > While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to > deal > with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even > sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how > we > move forward. > > Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a > poll? > > Thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should not > disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > provided > by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > subsequently > confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > Fasthosts. > > > > From: > gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong > Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 > Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi Kiran and everyone, > > You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 > (for > Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 > (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work > into > “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign > up for > each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by > staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on > preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y > number > of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their > report to the WG. > > Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works > best > for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub > Team > and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the > staff-provided template will be useful!) > > Cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > Lindsay > Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >, Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for > lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. > > K > > From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in > addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. > Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if > appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you > are > ready; thanks so much! > > Cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > Terri > Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi Mary > > I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also > hope > to have the document up and running too. > > Many thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should not > disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > provided > by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > subsequently > confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > Fasthosts. > > > > From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] > Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >; Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take > on > Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous > comments). If > it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to > give a > brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? > > Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a > team > of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss > their > findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others > to do > the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, > please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff > in > this process. > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 > To: Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi Terri > > Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on > question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the > relevant > questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. > > Many thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > Registered in > England and Wales. 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Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > provided > by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > subsequently > confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > Fasthosts. > > > > From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] > Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking > longer > than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to > response #15. > > Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > wrote: > > Hi Kiran > > > > I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no > idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different > question. I > should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is > going to > take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done > so > far? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Lindsay > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > > [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann > .or > g > ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil > Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > > Dear All, > > > > It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and > the > implications on permissible use. > > > > Has anyone started the work on this? > > > > Kiran > > > > Kiran Malancharuvil > > Policy Counselor > > MarkMonitor > > 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > > > On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the > subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) > suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please > accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t > need > this reminder! > If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are > scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would > greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we > will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. > Thanks again, and have a great weekend, > Mary > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 > To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub > Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! > It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email > discussions to this mailing list. > Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments > received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to > have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word > document. > This is a comment from Web.com <http://Web.com> <http://Web.com>, which > I have now > added > as ROW 85 on > page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document > circulated previously. > I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. > Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more > general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this > Sub > Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work > such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through > Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on > Question 2 > (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the > last > person do the remaining general comments? > This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same > format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template > provided > or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per > this week¹s report. > Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together > (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations > to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. > If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for > each > ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the > full > WG with this coming Tuesday? > Thanks and cheers > Mary > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: > > <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > on behalf of Stephanie Perrin > > <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor > ont > o > .ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 > To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > testing > SP > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > > -- > Terri Stumme > Intelligence Analyst > <image001.jpg> > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2
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I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same format I used for Questions 1 and 2. I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received. Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be included in an accredited P/P service provider’s terms of service, because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P service provider. I would think giving them a week after being notified by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another. I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour grace period. This would give the customer enough time to protect their information. On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hi again Kathy and everyone,
We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG.
As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things – one, discuss and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy :
Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance.
As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual.
Cheers Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> wrote:
Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way?
It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work...
Best, Kathy
:
Hello everyone,
Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound?
First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August.
Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday?
Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this.
I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what.
Cheers
Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
-----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin<stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call
I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie
On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote:
I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available.
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor415-419-9138 (m)
Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello all,
Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2.
Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first?
FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2:https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw.
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
-----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool
Hi Kiran and everyone,
As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will clarify timelines and tasks for everyone.
Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 July overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer).
It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>,"gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this train seems to be getting away from us.
I
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor415-419-9138 (m)
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On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello Lindsay and all,
I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week:http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb.
As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I’ll need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular option!)
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi all
While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how we move forward.
Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a poll?
Thanks
Lindsay
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From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Kiran and everyone,
You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign up for each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their report to the WG.
Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the staff-provided template will be useful!)
Cheers Mary
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From: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for lagging on this, but I am traveling this week.
K
From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org <mary.wong@icann.org>] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil;gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are ready; thanks so much!
Cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Mary
I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope to have the document up and running too.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org <mary.wong@icann.org>] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>; Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to give a brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow?
Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in this process.
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Terri
Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>;gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to response #15.
Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote:
Hi Kiran
I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so far?
Many thanks
Lindsay
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Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Dear All,
It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the implications on permissible use.
Has anyone started the work on this?
Kiran
Kiran Malancharuvil
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Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t need this reminder!
If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room.
Thanks again, and have a great weekend,
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing
Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)!
It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email discussions to this mailing list.
Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word document. This is a comment from Web.com<http://Web.com> <http://Web.com>, which I have now added as ROW 85 on page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document circulated previously. I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly.
Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this Sub Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on Question 2 (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the last person do the remaining general comments?
This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template provided or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per this week¹s report. Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG.
If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for each ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the full WG with this coming Tuesday?
Thanks and cheers Mary
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Thanks so much, Terri! I went back and checked the source of the comment, just to be sure. The commenter basically answered the three questions that were posted on this Section 1.3.3, taking care to include the actual questions. The specific comment you highlighted came at the end, with no other specific reference or pointer to any other WG recommendation or question. That’s why I put it in the 1.3.3. Template even if it seems a bit out of place, so that the Sub Team can decide if it’s more appropriate to refer this back to the WG, e.g. as being a comment more associated with de-accreditation or transfer, or something else. What do you think? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:37 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same format I used for Questions 1 and 2.
I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received.
Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be included in an accredited P/P service provider’s terms of service, because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P service provider. I would think giving them a week after being notified by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another. I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour grace period. This would give the customer enough time to protect their information.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hi again Kathy and everyone,
We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG.
As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things one, discuss and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
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From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy :
Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance.
As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual.
Cheers Mary
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On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> wrote:
Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way?
It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work...
Best, Kathy
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Hello everyone,
Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound?
First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August.
Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday?
Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this.
I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what.
Cheers
Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
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> I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far > cant be there. Can we push to next week? > Stephanie > > On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: > I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. > > Kiran Malancharuvil > Policy Counselor > MarkMonitor > 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> > <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: > > Hello all, > > Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 > August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 > responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for > BOTH > Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. > > Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting > this > Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we > try > to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? > > > FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest > documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, > and > Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: > https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to > Review Tool > > Hi Kiran and everyone, > > As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly > administrative, > i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move > forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on > remaining > tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the > petitions > and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will > clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. > > Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 > July > overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, > and > picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly > relevant to > this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent > response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the > additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub > Team > - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two > additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help > with > incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you > prefer). > > It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I > complete > the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary > recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, > and of > course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to > your > material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so > everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. > > Thanks and cheers > > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> , > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will > listen > to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or > out, > can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but > this > train seems to be getting away from us. > > I > > Kiran Malancharuvil > Policy Counselor > MarkMonitor > 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > > Hello Lindsay and all, > > I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: > http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. > > As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), > I’ll > need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a > couple of > times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at > their > earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a > popular > option!) > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi all > > While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to > deal > with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even > sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how > we > move forward. > > Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a > poll? > > Thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | > Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should not > disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > provided > by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > subsequently > confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > Fasthosts. > > > > From: > gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong > Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 > Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi Kiran and everyone, > > You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 > (for > Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 > (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work > into > “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign > up for > each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by > staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on > preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y > number > of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their > report to the WG. > > Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works > best > for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub > Team > and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the > staff-provided template will be useful!) > > Cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > Lindsay > Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >, Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for > lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. > > K > > From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in > addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. > Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if > appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you > are > ready; thanks so much! > > Cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > Terri > Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi Mary > > I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also > hope > to have the document up and running too. > > Many thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | > Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should not > disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > provided > by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > subsequently > confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > Fasthosts. > > > > From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] > Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >; Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take > on > Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous > comments). If > it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to > give a > brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? > > Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a > team > of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss > their > findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others > to do > the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, > please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff > in > this process. > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 > To: Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi Terri > > Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on > question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the > relevant > questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. > > Many thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | > Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should not > disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > provided > by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > subsequently > confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > Fasthosts. > > > > From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] > Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking > longer > than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to > response #15. > > Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > wrote: > > Hi Kiran > > > > I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no > idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different > question. I > should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is > going to > take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done > so > far? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Lindsay > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > > [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann > .or > g > ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil > Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > > Dear All, > > > > It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and > the > implications on permissible use. > > > > Has anyone started the work on this? > > > > Kiran > > > > Kiran Malancharuvil > > Policy Counselor > > MarkMonitor > > 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> <tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > > > On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the > subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) > suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please > accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t > need > this reminder! > If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are > scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would > greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we > will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. > Thanks again, and have a great weekend, > Mary > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 > To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub > Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! > It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email > discussions to this mailing list. > Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments > received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to > have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word > document. > This is a comment from Web.com <http://Web.com> <http://Web.com>, which > I have now > added > as ROW 85 on > page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document > circulated previously. > I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. > Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more > general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this > Sub > Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work > such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through > Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on > Question 2 > (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the > last > person do the remaining general comments? > This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same > format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template > provided > or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per > this week¹s report. > Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together > (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations > to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. > If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for > each > ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the > full > WG with this coming Tuesday? > Thanks and cheers > Mary > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: > > <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > on behalf of Stephanie Perrin > > <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor > ont > o > .ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 > To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > testing > SP > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > > -- > Terri Stumme > Intelligence Analyst > <image001.jpg> > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2
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Hi Mary, Perhaps it would be best to refer it back to the WG; I wasn't really sure what the responder was referring to -- I thought perhaps this comment belongs under reveal related comments because many service providers give their customers the opportunity to transfer to another service provider when they receive notice of a "complaint" -- not sure -- is there a way to contact the responder to ask his intent? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks so much, Terri!
I went back and checked the source of the comment, just to be sure. The commenter basically answered the three questions that were posted on this Section 1.3.3, taking care to include the actual questions. The specific comment you highlighted came at the end, with no other specific reference or pointer to any other WG recommendation or question. That’s why I put it in the 1.3.3. Template even if it seems a bit out of place, so that the Sub Team can decide if it’s more appropriate to refer this back to the WG, e.g. as being a comment more associated with de-accreditation or transfer, or something else.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:37 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" < gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same format I used for Questions 1 and 2.
I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received.
Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be included in an accredited P/P service provider’s terms of service, because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P service provider. I would think giving them a week after being notified by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another. I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour grace period. This would give the customer enough time to protect their information.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hi again Kathy and everyone,
We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG.
As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things – one, discuss and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
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From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy :
Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance.
As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual.
Cheers Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> wrote:
Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way?
It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work...
Best, Kathy
:
Hello everyone,
Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound?
First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August.
Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday?
Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this.
I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what.
Cheers
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin<stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call
I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie
On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote:
I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available.
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor415-419-9138 (m)
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On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello all,
Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2.
Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first?
FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2:https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw.
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
-----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool
Hi Kiran and everyone,
As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will clarify timelines and tasks for everyone.
Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 July overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer).
It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>,"gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this train seems to be getting away from us.
I
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On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello Lindsay and all,
I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week:http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb.
As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I’ll need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular option!)
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi all
While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how we move forward.
Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a poll?
Thanks
Lindsay
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From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Kiran and everyone,
You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign up for each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their report to the WG.
Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the staff-provided template will be useful!)
Cheers Mary
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From: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for lagging on this, but I am traveling this week.
K
From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org <mary.wong@icann.org>] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil;gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are ready; thanks so much!
Cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Mary
I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope to have the document up and running too.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org <mary.wong@icann.org>] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>; Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to give a brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow?
Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in this process.
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Terri
Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>;gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to response #15.
Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote:
Hi Kiran
I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so far?
Many thanks
Lindsay
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Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Dear All,
It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the implications on permissible use.
Has anyone started the work on this?
Kiran
Kiran Malancharuvil
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On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t need this reminder!
If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room.
Thanks again, and have a great weekend,
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing
Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)!
It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email discussions to this mailing list.
Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word document. This is a comment from Web.com<http://Web.com> <http://Web.com>, which I have now added as ROW 85 on page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document circulated previously. I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly.
Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this Sub Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on Question 2 (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the last person do the remaining general comments?
This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template provided or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per this week¹s report. Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG.
If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for each ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the full WG with this coming Tuesday?
Thanks and cheers Mary
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Colleagues, Thanks for the clarifications here on what it is we’re charged with. No matter the charge, having the ability to review the submissions is going to be useful. I’m getting spun up, trying to read up so I can help make an impact. As I do I find I need to ask what might be a silly question. The Public Comment Review Tool doesn’t seem to include the 10,000+ comments from the Save Domain Privacy crowd. When will these comments be listed as comments 90 to 10,090 (or so) on our Subteam 2 Public Comment Review Tool? Seems like their comments in general are completely relevant to subteam 2, question 1 about whether we should break out categories of commercial transactions to bar proxy/privacy. Christian Dawson Chairman & Co-founder Internet Infrastructure Coalition (i2C) c: 703 623 2612 http://i2coalition.com <http://i2coalition.com/> PGP: 22DF5493 Fingerprint: 7C95 A3BE 1E10 4864 8417 DCED B9E1 C8FD 22DF 5493
On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com> wrote:
Hi Mary,
Perhaps it would be best to refer it back to the WG; I wasn't really sure what the responder was referring to -- I thought perhaps this comment belongs under reveal related comments because many service providers give their customers the opportunity to transfer to another service provider when they receive notice of a "complaint" -- not sure -- is there a way to contact the responder to ask his intent?
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Thanks so much, Terri!
I went back and checked the source of the comment, just to be sure. The commenter basically answered the three questions that were posted on this Section 1.3.3, taking care to include the actual questions. The specific comment you highlighted came at the end, with no other specific reference or pointer to any other WG recommendation or question. That’s why I put it in the 1.3.3. Template even if it seems a bit out of place, so that the Sub Team can decide if it’s more appropriate to refer this back to the WG, e.g. as being a comment more associated with de-accreditation or transfer, or something else.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
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From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:37 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com <mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same format I used for Questions 1 and 2.
I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received.
Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be included in an accredited P/P service provider’s terms of service, because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P service provider. I would think giving them a week after being notified by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another. I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour grace period. This would give the customer enough time to protect their information.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hi again Kathy and everyone,
We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG.
As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things – one, discuss and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
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From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com <mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy :
Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance.
As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual.
Cheers Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com <mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> wrote:
Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way?
It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work...
Best, Kathy
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Hello everyone,
Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound?
First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August.
Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday?
Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this.
I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what.
Cheers
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call
I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie
On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote:
I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available.
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m)
Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
> On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: > > Hello all, > > Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 > August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 > responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for > BOTH > Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. > > Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting > this > Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we > try > to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? > > > FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest > documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, > and > Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: > https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw <https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw>. > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to > Review Tool > >> Hi Kiran and everyone, >> >> As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly >> administrative, >> i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move >> forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on >> remaining >> tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the >> petitions >> and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will >> clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. >> >> Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 >> July >> overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, >> and >> picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly >> relevant to >> this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent >> response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the >> additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub >> Team >> - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two >> additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help >> with >> incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you >> prefer). >> >> It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I >> complete >> the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary >> recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, >> and of >> course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to >> your >> material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so >> everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. >> >> Thanks and cheers >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Wong >> Senior Policy Director >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >> Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 >> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>, >> "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >>> Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will >>> listen >>> to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or >>> out, >>> can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but >>> this >>> train seems to be getting away from us. >>> >>> I >>> >>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>> Policy Counselor >>> MarkMonitor >>> 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m) >>> >>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>> >>> On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong >>> <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Lindsay and all, >>> >>> I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: >>> http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb <http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb>. >>> >>> As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), >>> I’ll >>> need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a >>> couple of >>> times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at >>> their >>> earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a >>> popular >>> option!) >>> >>> Thanks and cheers >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Wong >>> Senior Policy Director >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>> Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>> >>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>> hos >>> t >>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> >>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 >>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to >>> deal >>> with these extra comments and have a general catch up. 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FWIW Sub Team 3 >>> (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work >>> into >>> “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign >>> up for >>> each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by >>> staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on >>> preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y >>> number >>> of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their >>> report to the WG. >>> >>> Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works >>> best >>> for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub >>> Team >>> and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the >>> staff-provided template will be useful!) >>> >>> Cheers >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Wong >>> Senior Policy Director >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>> Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>> >>> >>> From: Kiran Malancharuvil >>> >>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>> nit >>> o >>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> >>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 >>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>> Lindsay >>> Hamilton-Reid >>> >>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>> hos >>> t >>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>, Terri Stumme >>> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>> >>> Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for >>> lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. >>> >>> K >>> >>> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>] >>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM >>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme >>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; >>> gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>> >>> Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in >>> addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. >>> Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if >>> appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you >>> are >>> ready; thanks so much! >>> >>> Cheers >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Wong >>> Senior Policy Director >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>> Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>> >>> >>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>> >>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>> hos >>> t >>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> >>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 >>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>> Terri >>> Stumme >>> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>> >>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>> nit >>> o >>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>> >>> Hi Mary >>> >>> I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also >>> hope >>> to have the document up and running too. >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Lindsay >>> >>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>> Legal Counsel >>> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>> >>> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk <mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>> and >>> 1 >>> .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>> >>> [fh-1and1] >>> >>> >>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>> Fasthosts >>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>> name >>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>> Registered in >>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>> >>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>> should not >>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>> provided >>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>> subsequently >>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>> Fasthosts. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>] >>> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 >>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>> >>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>> hos >>> t >>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>; Terri Stumme >>> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>> >>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>> nit >>> o >>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>> >>> Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take >>> on >>> Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous >>> comments). If >>> it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to >>> give a >>> brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? >>> >>> Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a >>> team >>> of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss >>> their >>> findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others >>> to do >>> the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, >>> please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff >>> in >>> this process. >>> >>> Thanks and cheers >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Wong >>> Senior Policy Director >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>> Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>> >>> >>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>> >>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>> hos >>> t >>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> >>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 >>> To: Terri Stumme >>> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>> >>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>> nit >>> o >>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>> "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>> >>> Hi Terri >>> >>> Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on >>> question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the >>> relevant >>> questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Lindsay >>> >>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>> Legal Counsel >>> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>> >>> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk <mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>> and >>> 1 >>> .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>> >>> [fh-1and1] >>> >>> >>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>> Fasthosts >>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>> name >>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>> Registered in >>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>> >>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>> should not >>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>> provided >>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>> subsequently >>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>> Fasthosts. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>] >>> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 >>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>> >>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>> hos >>> t >>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> >>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>> >>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>> nit >>> o >>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; >>> gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>> >>> I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking >>> longer >>> than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to >>> response #15. >>> >>> Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>> >>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>> hos >>> t >>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Kiran >>> >>> >>> >>> I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no >>> idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different >>> question. I >>> should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is >>> going to >>> take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done >>> so >>> far? >>> >>> >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> Lindsay >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: >>> gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>> >>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann> >>> .or >>> g >>>> ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil >>> Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 >>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> >>> >>> It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and >>> the >>> implications on permissible use. >>> >>> >>> >>> Has anyone started the work on this? >>> >>> >>> >>> Kiran >>> >>> >>> >>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>> >>> Policy Counselor >>> >>> MarkMonitor >>> >>> 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138><tel:415-419-9138> <tel:415-419-9138> (m) >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong >>>> <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >>>> Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the >>>> subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) >>>> suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please >>>> accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t >>>> need >>>> this reminder! >>>> If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are >>>> scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would >>>> greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we >>>> will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. >>>> Thanks again, and have a great weekend, >>>> Mary >>>> Mary Wong >>>> Senior Policy Director >>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>> Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>-----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 >>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>>> Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub >>>>> Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! >>>>> It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email >>>>> discussions to this mailing list. >>>>> Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments >>>>> received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to >>>>> have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word >>>>> document. >>>>> This is a comment from Web.com <http://web.com/><http://Web.com> <http://web.com/>, which I have now >>>>> added >>>>> as ROW 85 on >>>>> page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document >>>>> circulated previously. >>>>> I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. >>>>> Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more >>>>> general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this >>>>> Sub >>>>> Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work >>>>> such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through >>>>> Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on >>>>> Question 2 >>>>> (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the >>>>> last >>>>> person do the remaining general comments? >>>>> This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same >>>>> format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template >>>>> provided >>>>> or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per >>>>> this week¹s report. >>>>> Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together >>>>> (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations >>>>> to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. >>>>> If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for >>>>> each >>>>> ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the >>>>> full >>>>> WG with this coming Tuesday? >>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>> Mary >>>>> Mary Wong >>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>> Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>-----Original Message----- >>>>> From: >>>>> >>>>> <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org>on behalf of Stephanie Perrin >>>>> >>>>> <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor >>>>> ont >>>>> o >>>>> .ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> >>>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 >>>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>>>> testing >>>>>> SP >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2>_______________________________________________ >>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2>_______________________________________________ >>> >>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>> >>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Terri Stumme >>> Intelligence Analyst >>> <image001.jpg> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2> > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2>_______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2>_______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2>
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Hi Christian and everyone thanks for noting this point. As mentioned on the last WG call, staff had not included comments or statements from either the Respect Our Privacy template email or the Save Domain Privacy petition in the templates to date, pending WG agreement on how best to approach these. This past week, Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) has started considering the statements from both groups that relate to “verifiable evidence” for disclosure (Save Domain Privacy) and that information should not be disclosed without a court order (Respect Our Privacy). Looking at the comments in question, the one specific point that would seem to be relevant to this Sub Team’s review is the statement from the Save Domain Privacy petition that supports “the use of privacy services by all, for all legal purposes, regardless of whether the website is “commercial”.” As Sub Team 3 has already noted, the petition was signed by 10,042 persons, a number of whom also sent in additional comments specific to one or more of the statements in the petition. If this Sub Team is going ahead with a call this week to review the documents to date, perhaps the question of where and how to consider the above statement can also be discussed then, or alternatively Sub Team members may want to weigh in via email to this list with their suggestions? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: Christian Dawson <dawson@i2coalition.com> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 16:22 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Colleagues,
Thanks for the clarifications here on what it is we’re charged with. No matter the charge, having the ability to review the submissions is going to be useful. I’m getting spun up, trying to read up so I can help make an impact. As I do I find I need to ask what might be a silly question. The Public Comment Review Tool doesn’t seem to include the 10,000+ comments from the Save Domain Privacy crowd. When will these comments be listed as comments 90 to 10,090 (or so) on our Subteam 2 Public Comment Review Tool? Seems like their comments in general are completely relevant to subteam 2, question 1 about whether we should break out categories of commercial transactions to bar proxy/privacy.
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On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com> wrote:
Hi Mary,
Perhaps it would be best to refer it back to the WG; I wasn't really sure what the responder was referring to -- I thought perhaps this comment belongs under reveal related comments because many service providers give their customers the opportunity to transfer to another service provider when they receive notice of a "complaint" -- not sure -- is there a way to contact the responder to ask his intent?
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks so much, Terri!
I went back and checked the source of the comment, just to be sure. The commenter basically answered the three questions that were posted on this Section 1.3.3, taking care to include the actual questions. The specific comment you highlighted came at the end, with no other specific reference or pointer to any other WG recommendation or question. That’s why I put it in the 1.3.3. Template even if it seems a bit out of place, so that the Sub Team can decide if it’s more appropriate to refer this back to the WG, e.g. as being a comment more associated with de-accreditation or transfer, or something else.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:37 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same format I used for Questions 1 and 2.
I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received.
Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be included in an accredited P/P service provider’s terms of service, because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P service provider. I would think giving them a week after being notified by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another. I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour grace period. This would give the customer enough time to protect their information.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hi again Kathy and everyone,
We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG.
As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things one, discuss and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy : > Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's > decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and > responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, > even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold > question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto > either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial > Report, for instance. > > As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep > through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a > Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and > consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP > manual. > > Cheers > Mary > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> wrote: > > Hi Mary and All, > Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on > Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, > and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), > then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow > only if question #1 had a clear response the other way? > > It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next > week? It might save all of us a lot of work... > > Best, > Kathy > > : > Hello everyone, > > Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s > commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound? > > First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of > Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and > 2, > which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can > be > based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due > date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 > August. > > Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your > collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in > respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to > these > questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the > WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of > this > week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday? > > Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall > assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can > be > scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review > what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single > report for the full WG following this. > > I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a > starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to > proceed, and who is to volunteer for what. > > Cheers > > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email: mary.wong@icann.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin > <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 > To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call > > I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far > cant be there. Can we push to next week? > Stephanie > > On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: > I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. > > Kiran Malancharuvil > Policy Counselor > MarkMonitor > 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> > <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: > > Hello all, > > Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 > August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 > responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for > BOTH > Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. > > Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting > this > Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we > try > to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? > > > FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest > documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, > and > Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: > https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to > Review Tool > > Hi Kiran and everyone, > > As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly > administrative, > i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move > forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on > remaining > tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the > petitions > and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will > clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. > > Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 > July > overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, > and > picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly > relevant to > this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent > response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the > additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub > Team > - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two > additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help > with > incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you > prefer). > > It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I > complete > the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary > recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, > and of > course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to > your > material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so > everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. > > Thanks and cheers > > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> , > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will > listen > to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or > out, > can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but > this > train seems to be getting away from us. > > I > > Kiran Malancharuvil > Policy Counselor > MarkMonitor > 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > > Hello Lindsay and all, > > I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: > http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. > > As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), > I’ll > need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a > couple of > times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at > their > earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a > popular > option!) > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi all > > While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to > deal > with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even > sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how > we > move forward. > > Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a > poll? > > Thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | > Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should not > disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > provided > by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > subsequently > confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > Fasthosts. > > > > From: > gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong > Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 > Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi Kiran and everyone, > > You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 > (for > Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 > (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work > into > “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign > up for > each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by > staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on > preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y > number > of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their > report to the WG. > > Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works > best > for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub > Team > and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the > staff-provided template will be useful!) > > Cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > Lindsay > Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >, Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for > lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. > > K > > From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in > addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. > Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if > appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you > are > ready; thanks so much! > > Cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > Terri > Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi Mary > > I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also > hope > to have the document up and running too. > > Many thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | > Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should not > disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > provided > by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > subsequently > confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > Fasthosts. > > > > From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] > Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >; Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take > on > Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous > comments). If > it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to > give a > brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? > > Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a > team > of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss > their > findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others > to do > the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, > please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff > in > this process. > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 > To: Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi Terri > > Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on > question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the > relevant > questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. > > Many thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | > Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should not > disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > provided > by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > subsequently > confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > Fasthosts. > > > > From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] > Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking > longer > than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to > response #15. > > Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > wrote: > > Hi Kiran > > > > I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no > idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different > question. I > should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is > going to > take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done > so > far? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Lindsay > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > > [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann > .or > g > ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil > Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > > Dear All, > > > > It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and > the > implications on permissible use. > > > > Has anyone started the work on this? > > > > Kiran > > > > Kiran Malancharuvil > > Policy Counselor > > MarkMonitor > > 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> <tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > > > On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the > subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) > suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please > accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t > need > this reminder! > If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are > scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would > greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we > will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. > Thanks again, and have a great weekend, > Mary > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 > To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub > Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! > It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email > discussions to this mailing list. > Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments > received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to > have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word > document. > This is a comment from Web.com <http://web.com/> <http://Web.com> > <http://web.com/> , which I have now > added > as ROW 85 on > page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document > circulated previously. > I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. > Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more > general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this > Sub > Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work > such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through > Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on > Question 2 > (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the > last > person do the remaining general comments? > This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same > format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template > provided > or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per > this week¹s report. > Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together > (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations > to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. > If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for > each > ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the > full > WG with this coming Tuesday? > Thanks and cheers > Mary > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: > > <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > on behalf of Stephanie Perrin > > <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor > ont > o > .ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 > To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > testing > SP > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > > -- > Terri Stumme > Intelligence Analyst > <image001.jpg> > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2
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Hi Mary and All, Unlike Subteam 3, which is trying to interpret the meaning of the SDP comments as they apply to the Court Order v. Annex E issues, the meaning and application of the SDP comments here, all 10042 of them, is clear and directly applicable. Adding them to the spreadsheet ensures their full and fair evaluation alongside the other commenters. Additionally, there must be ways to run word searches against the SDP supplemental comments added by many of commenters to see if they made any additional points relevant to our subteam's work. Best, Kathy :
Hi Christian and everyone – thanks for noting this point. As mentioned on the last WG call, staff had not included comments or statements from either the Respect Our Privacy template email or the Save Domain Privacy petition in the templates to date, pending WG agreement on how best to approach these. This past week, Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) has started considering the statements from both groups that relate to “verifiable evidence” for disclosure (Save Domain Privacy) and that information should not be disclosed without a court order (Respect Our Privacy).
Looking at the comments in question, the one specific point that would seem to be relevant to this Sub Team’s review is the statement from the Save Domain Privacy petition that supports “the use of privacy services by all, for all legal purposes, regardless of whether the website is “commercial”.”
As Sub Team 3 has already noted, the petition was signed by 10,042 persons, a number of whom also sent in additional comments specific to one or more of the statements in the petition.
If this Sub Team is going ahead with a call this week to review the documents to date, perhaps the question of where and how to consider the above statement can also be discussed then, or alternatively Sub Team members may want to weigh in via email to this list with their suggestions?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Christian Dawson <dawson@i2coalition.com <mailto:dawson@i2coalition.com>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 16:22 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Colleagues,
Thanks for the clarifications here on what it is we’re charged with. No matter the charge, having the ability to review the submissions is going to be useful. I’m getting spun up, trying to read up so I can help make an impact. As I do I find I need to ask what might be a silly question. The Public Comment Review Tool doesn’t seem to include the 10,000+ comments from the Save Domain Privacy crowd. When will these comments be listed as comments 90 to 10,090 (or so) on our Subteam 2 Public Comment Review Tool? Seems like their comments in general are completely relevant to subteam 2, question 1 about whether we should break out categories of commercial transactions to bar proxy/privacy.
Christian Dawson /Chairman & Co-founder/ Internet Infrastructure Coalition (i2C) c: 703 623 2612 http://i2coalition.com <http://i2coalition.com/>
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On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> wrote:
Hi Mary,
Perhaps it would be best to refer it back to the WG; I wasn't really sure what the responder was referring to -- I thought perhaps this comment belongs under reveal related comments because many service providers give their customers the opportunity to transfer to another service provider when they receive notice of a "complaint" -- not sure -- is there a way to contact the responder to ask his intent?
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Thanks so much, Terri!
I went back and checked the source of the comment, just to be sure. The commenter basically answered the three questions that were posted on this Section 1.3.3, taking care to include the actual questions. The specific comment you highlighted came at the end, with no other specific reference or pointer to any other WG recommendation or question. That’s why I put it in the 1.3.3. Template even if it seems a bit out of place, so that the Sub Team can decide if it’s more appropriate to refer this back to the WG, e.g. as being a comment more associated with de-accreditation or transfer, or something else.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:37 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com <mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same format I used for Questions 1 and 2.
I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received.
Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be included in an accredited P/P service provider’s terms of service, because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P service provider.I would think giving them a week after being notified by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another.I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour grace period.This would give the customer enough time to protect their information.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hi again Kathy and everyone,
We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG.
As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things – one, discuss and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com <mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy :
Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance.
As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual.
Cheers Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com <mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> wrote:
Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way?
It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work...
Best, Kathy
:
Hello everyone,
Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound?
First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August.
Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday?
Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this.
I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what.
Cheers
Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email:mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
-----Original Message----- From:<gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To:"gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call
I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie
On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: > I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. > > Kiran Malancharuvil > Policy Counselor > MarkMonitor > 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > >> On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong<mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 >> August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 >> responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for >> BOTH >> Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. >> >> Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting >> this >> Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we >> try >> to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? >> >> >> FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest >> documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, >> and >> Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: >> https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. >> >> Thanks and cheers >> Mary >> >> Mary Wong >> Senior Policy Director >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >> Telephone:+1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >> Email:mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mary Wong<mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 >> Cc:"gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to >> Review Tool >> >>> Hi Kiran and everyone, >>> >>> As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly >>> administrative, >>> i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move >>> forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on >>> remaining >>> tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the >>> petitions >>> and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will >>> clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. >>> >>> Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 >>> July >>> overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, >>> and >>> picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly >>> relevant to >>> this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent >>> response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the >>> additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub >>> Team >>> - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two >>> additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help >>> with >>> incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you >>> prefer). >>> >>> It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I >>> complete >>> the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary >>> recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, >>> and of >>> course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to >>> your >>> material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so >>> everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. >>> >>> Thanks and cheers >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Wong >>> Senior Policy Director >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>> Telephone:+1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>> Email:mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kiran Malancharuvil<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 >>> To: Mary Wong<mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>, >>> "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>> >>>> Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will >>>> listen >>>> to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or >>>> out, >>>> can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but >>>> this >>>> train seems to be getting away from us. >>>> >>>> I >>>> >>>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>>> Policy Counselor >>>> MarkMonitor >>>> 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m) >>>> >>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>>> >>>> On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong >>>> <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Lindsay and all, >>>> >>>> I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: >>>> http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. >>>> >>>> As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), >>>> I’ll >>>> need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a >>>> couple of >>>> times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at >>>> their >>>> earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a >>>> popular >>>> option!) >>>> >>>> Thanks and cheers >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> Mary Wong >>>> Senior Policy Director >>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>> Telephone:+1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>> Email:mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>> >>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>> hos >>>> t >>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> >>>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 >>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to >>>> deal >>>> with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even >>>> sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how >>>> we >>>> move forward. >>>> >>>> Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a >>>> poll? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Lindsay >>>> >>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>> Legal Counsel >>>> Direct:+44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>> >>>> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk <mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>> and >>>> 1 >>>> .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>> >>>> [fh-1and1] >>>> >>>> >>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>> Fasthosts >>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>> name >>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>> Registered in >>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>> >>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>> should not >>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>> provided >>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>> subsequently >>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>> Fasthosts. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: >>>> gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong >>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 >>>> Cc:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>> >>>> Hi Kiran and everyone, >>>> >>>> You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 >>>> (for >>>> Section 1.3.2):https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 >>>> (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work >>>> into >>>> “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign >>>> up for >>>> each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by >>>> staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on >>>> preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y >>>> number >>>> of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their >>>> report to the WG. >>>> >>>> Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works >>>> best >>>> for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub >>>> Team >>>> and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the >>>> staff-provided template will be useful!) >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> Mary Wong >>>> Senior Policy Director >>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>> Telephone:+1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>> Email:mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>> >>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>> nit >>>> o >>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> >>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 >>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>> Lindsay >>>> Hamilton-Reid >>>> >>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>> hos >>>> t >>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>, Terri Stumme >>>> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>> >>>> Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for >>>> lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. >>>> >>>> K >>>> >>>> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM >>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme >>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; >>>> gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>> >>>> Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in >>>> addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. >>>> Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if >>>> appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you >>>> are >>>> ready; thanks so much! >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> Mary Wong >>>> Senior Policy Director >>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>> Telephone:+1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>> Email:mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>> >>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>> hos >>>> t >>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> >>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 >>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>> Terri >>>> Stumme >>>> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>> >>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>> nit >>>> o >>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>> >>>> Hi Mary >>>> >>>> I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also >>>> hope >>>> to have the document up and running too. >>>> >>>> Many thanks >>>> >>>> Lindsay >>>> >>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>> Legal Counsel >>>> Direct:+44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>> >>>> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk <mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>> and >>>> 1 >>>> .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>> >>>> [fh-1and1] >>>> >>>> >>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>> Fasthosts >>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>> name >>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>> Registered in >>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>> >>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>> should not >>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>> provided >>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>> subsequently >>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>> Fasthosts. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 >>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>> >>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>> hos >>>> t >>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>; Terri Stumme >>>> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>> >>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>> nit >>>> o >>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>;gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>> >>>> Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take >>>> on >>>> Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous >>>> comments). If >>>> it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to >>>> give a >>>> brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? >>>> >>>> Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a >>>> team >>>> of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss >>>> their >>>> findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others >>>> to do >>>> the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, >>>> please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff >>>> in >>>> this process. >>>> >>>> Thanks and cheers >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> Mary Wong >>>> Senior Policy Director >>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>> Telephone:+1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>> Email:mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>> >>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>> hos >>>> t >>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> >>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 >>>> To: Terri Stumme >>>> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>> >>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>> nit >>>> o >>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>> "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>> >>>> Hi Terri >>>> >>>> Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on >>>> question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the >>>> relevant >>>> questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. >>>> >>>> Many thanks >>>> >>>> Lindsay >>>> >>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>> Legal Counsel >>>> Direct:+44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>> >>>> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk <mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>> and >>>> 1 >>>> .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>> >>>> [fh-1and1] >>>> >>>> >>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>> Fasthosts >>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>> name >>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>> Registered in >>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>> >>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>> should not >>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>> provided >>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>> subsequently >>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>> Fasthosts. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] >>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 >>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>> >>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>> hos >>>> t >>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> >>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>> >>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>> nit >>>> o >>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; >>>> gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>> >>>> I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking >>>> longer >>>> than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to >>>> response #15. >>>> >>>> Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>> >>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>> hos >>>> t >>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Kiran >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no >>>> idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different >>>> question. I >>>> should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is >>>> going to >>>> take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done >>>> so >>>> far? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Many thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Lindsay >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: >>>> gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>> >>>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann >>>> .or >>>> g >>>>> ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil >>>> Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 >>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>> Cc:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and >>>> the >>>> implications on permissible use. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Has anyone started the work on this? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kiran >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>>> >>>> Policy Counselor >>>> >>>> MarkMonitor >>>> >>>> 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138><tel:415-419-9138> <tel:415-419-9138> (m) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong >>>>> <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >>>>> Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the >>>>> subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) >>>>> suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please >>>>> accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t >>>>> need >>>>> this reminder! >>>>> If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are >>>>> scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would >>>>> greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we >>>>> will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. >>>>> Thanks again, and have a great weekend, >>>>> Mary >>>>> Mary Wong >>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>> Telephone:+1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>> Email:mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 >>>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>>>> Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub >>>>>> Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! >>>>>> It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email >>>>>> discussions to this mailing list. >>>>>> Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments >>>>>> received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to >>>>>> have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word >>>>>> document. >>>>>> This is a comment fromWeb.com <http://web.com/><http://Web.com> <http://web.com/>, which I have now >>>>>> added >>>>>> as ROW 85 on >>>>>> page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document >>>>>> circulated previously. >>>>>> I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. >>>>>> Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more >>>>>> general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this >>>>>> Sub >>>>>> Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work >>>>>> such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through >>>>>> Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on >>>>>> Question 2 >>>>>> (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the >>>>>> last >>>>>> person do the remaining general comments? >>>>>> This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same >>>>>> format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template >>>>>> provided >>>>>> or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per >>>>>> this week¹s report. >>>>>> Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together >>>>>> (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations >>>>>> to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. >>>>>> If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for >>>>>> each >>>>>> ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the >>>>>> full >>>>>> WG with this coming Tuesday? >>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>> Telephone:+1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>> Email:mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: >>>>>> >>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>>>> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin >>>>>> >>>>>> <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor >>>>>> ont >>>>>> o >>>>>> .ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 >>>>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>>>>> testing >>>>>>> SP >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>> >>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Terri Stumme >>>> Intelligence Analyst >>>> <image001.jpg> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >> _______________________________________________ >> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2
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I agree that this statement is directly applicable to our issue. I disagree that the meaning is unambiguous, and believe that this statement, like others, suffers from poor drafting. Is the use of privacy and proxy services for websites engaged in active financial transactions (taking your credit card, Paypal or other payment information) legal? I believe there were several of us that presented a legal summary which challenged the legality of this. While other opposed the "white paper," I do not recall seeing any attempt of legal analysis from that opposition. I believe this question is still on the table. Thanks, Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415.222.8318 (t) 415.419.9138 (m) www.markmonitor.com<http://www.markmonitor.com/> From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:17 PM To: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) Hi Mary and All, Unlike Subteam 3, which is trying to interpret the meaning of the SDP comments as they apply to the Court Order v. Annex E issues, the meaning and application of the SDP comments here, all 10042 of them, is clear and directly applicable. Adding them to the spreadsheet ensures their full and fair evaluation alongside the other commenters. Additionally, there must be ways to run word searches against the SDP supplemental comments added by many of commenters to see if they made any additional points relevant to our subteam's work. Best, Kathy : Hi Christian and everyone - thanks for noting this point. As mentioned on the last WG call, staff had not included comments or statements from either the Respect Our Privacy template email or the Save Domain Privacy petition in the templates to date, pending WG agreement on how best to approach these. This past week, Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) has started considering the statements from both groups that relate to "verifiable evidence" for disclosure (Save Domain Privacy) and that information should not be disclosed without a court order (Respect Our Privacy). Looking at the comments in question, the one specific point that would seem to be relevant to this Sub Team's review is the statement from the Save Domain Privacy petition that supports "the use of privacy services by all, for all legal purposes, regardless of whether the website is "commercial"." As Sub Team 3 has already noted, the petition was signed by 10,042 persons, a number of whom also sent in additional comments specific to one or more of the statements in the petition. If this Sub Team is going ahead with a call this week to review the documents to date, perhaps the question of where and how to consider the above statement can also be discussed then, or alternatively Sub Team members may want to weigh in via email to this list with their suggestions? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Christian Dawson <dawson@i2coalition.com<mailto:dawson@i2coalition.com>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 16:22 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) Colleagues, Thanks for the clarifications here on what it is we're charged with. No matter the charge, having the ability to review the submissions is going to be useful. I'm getting spun up, trying to read up so I can help make an impact. As I do I find I need to ask what might be a silly question. The Public Comment Review Tool doesn't seem to include the 10,000+ comments from the Save Domain Privacy crowd. When will these comments be listed as comments 90 to 10,090 (or so) on our Subteam 2 Public Comment Review Tool? Seems like their comments in general are completely relevant to subteam 2, question 1 about whether we should break out categories of commercial transactions to bar proxy/privacy. Christian Dawson Chairman & Co-founder Internet Infrastructure Coalition (i2C) c: 703 623 2612 http://i2coalition.com<http://i2coalition.com/> PGP: 22DF5493 Fingerprint: 7C95 A3BE 1E10 4864 8417 DCED B9E1 C8FD 22DF 5493 On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> wrote: Hi Mary, Perhaps it would be best to refer it back to the WG; I wasn't really sure what the responder was referring to -- I thought perhaps this comment belongs under reveal related comments because many service providers give their customers the opportunity to transfer to another service provider when they receive notice of a "complaint" -- not sure -- is there a way to contact the responder to ask his intent? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Thanks so much, Terri! I went back and checked the source of the comment, just to be sure. The commenter basically answered the three questions that were posted on this Section 1.3.3, taking care to include the actual questions. The specific comment you highlighted came at the end, with no other specific reference or pointer to any other WG recommendation or question. That's why I put it in the 1.3.3. Template even if it seems a bit out of place, so that the Sub Team can decide if it's more appropriate to refer this back to the WG, e.g. as being a comment more associated with de-accreditation or transfer, or something else. What do you think? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:37 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same format I used for Questions 1 and 2. I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received. Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be included in an accredited P/P service provider's terms of service, because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P service provider. I would think giving them a week after being notified by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another. I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour grace period. This would give the customer enough time to protect their information. On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hi again Kathy and everyone, We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team's analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG. As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things - one, discuss and agree on whether the community's answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week. What do you think? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy : Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance. As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual. Cheers Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> wrote: Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way? It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work... Best, Kathy : Hello everyone, Going back to Lindsay's original email suggestion and given everyone's commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound? First, let's get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri's or Lindsay's document formats. A possible "due date" for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August. Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG's recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday? Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team's recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what's been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this. I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you'd like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: Hello all, Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay's and Terri's latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool Hi Kiran and everyone, As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, i.e. general discussion as to whether there's agreement on how to move forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. Following from the WG call a while ago, I've gone back through the 20 July overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent response to other questions/recommendations). I've highlighted the additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer). It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG's preliminary recommendations. I'll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your material. I'll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this train seems to be getting away from us. I Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hello Lindsay and all, I've created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. As we'll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I'll need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular option!) Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi all While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how we move forward. Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a poll? Thanks Lindsay Lindsay Hamilton-Reid Legal Counsel Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145<tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> and<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> 1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> .co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> [fh-1and1] ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or Fasthosts. From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Kiran and everyone, You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into "buckets" based on the questions, and having different people sign up for each "bucket". For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by staff, though re-organizing into their "buckets". They also plan on preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their report to the WG. Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the staff-provided template will be useful!) Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I'm sorry for lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. K From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if appropriate) to the WG's AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are ready; thanks so much! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Mary I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope to have the document up and running too. Many thanks Lindsay Lindsay Hamilton-Reid Legal Counsel Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145<tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> and<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> 1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> .co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> [fh-1and1] ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or Fasthosts. From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>; Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If it's not asking too much, do you think you'll be in a position to give a brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in this process. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Terri Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. Many thanks Lindsay Lindsay Hamilton-Reid Legal Counsel Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145<tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> and<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> 1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> .co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> [fh-1and1] ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or Fasthosts. From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to response #15. Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote: Hi Kiran I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so far? Many thanks Lindsay -----Original Message----- From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann .or g ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Dear All, It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the implications on permissible use. Has anyone started the work on this? Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138><tel:415-419-9138><tel:415-419-9138> (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I'd change the subject title in case you didn't see my earlier email (below) suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please accept my apologies if you've already begun your work and so don't need this reminder! If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. Thanks again, and have a great weekend, Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email discussions to this mailing list. Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word document. This is a comment from Web.com<http://web.com/><http://Web.com><http://web.com/>, which I have now added as ROW 85 on page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document circulated previously. I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this Sub Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on Question 2 (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the last person do the remaining general comments? This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template provided or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per this week¹s report. Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for each ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the full WG with this coming Tuesday? Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> ont<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> o<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> .ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing testing SP _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 -- Terri Stumme Intelligence Analyst <image001.jpg> _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 -- Terri Stumme Intelligence Analyst _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 -- Terri Stumme Intelligence Analyst _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2
Hi Kiran I have not had the opportunity to read your paper so I cannot comment. I will, however, try to view as I do not think it is illegal under current legislation. If you could email it to me in the interests of speed, I would be grateful. Many thanks Lindsay Sent from my iPhone On 12 Aug 2015, at 22:34, Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> wrote: I agree that this statement is directly applicable to our issue. I disagree that the meaning is unambiguous, and believe that this statement, like others, suffers from poor drafting. Is the use of privacy and proxy services for websites engaged in active financial transactions (taking your credit card, Paypal or other payment information) legal? I believe there were several of us that presented a legal summary which challenged the legality of this. While other opposed the “white paper,” I do not recall seeing any attempt of legal analysis from that opposition. I believe this question is still on the table. Thanks, Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415.222.8318 (t) 415.419.9138 (m) www.markmonitor.com<http://www.markmonitor.com/> From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:17 PM To: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) Hi Mary and All, Unlike Subteam 3, which is trying to interpret the meaning of the SDP comments as they apply to the Court Order v. Annex E issues, the meaning and application of the SDP comments here, all 10042 of them, is clear and directly applicable. Adding them to the spreadsheet ensures their full and fair evaluation alongside the other commenters. Additionally, there must be ways to run word searches against the SDP supplemental comments added by many of commenters to see if they made any additional points relevant to our subteam's work. Best, Kathy : Hi Christian and everyone – thanks for noting this point. As mentioned on the last WG call, staff had not included comments or statements from either the Respect Our Privacy template email or the Save Domain Privacy petition in the templates to date, pending WG agreement on how best to approach these. This past week, Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) has started considering the statements from both groups that relate to “verifiable evidence” for disclosure (Save Domain Privacy) and that information should not be disclosed without a court order (Respect Our Privacy). Looking at the comments in question, the one specific point that would seem to be relevant to this Sub Team’s review is the statement from the Save Domain Privacy petition that supports “the use of privacy services by all, for all legal purposes, regardless of whether the website is “commercial”.” As Sub Team 3 has already noted, the petition was signed by 10,042 persons, a number of whom also sent in additional comments specific to one or more of the statements in the petition. If this Sub Team is going ahead with a call this week to review the documents to date, perhaps the question of where and how to consider the above statement can also be discussed then, or alternatively Sub Team members may want to weigh in via email to this list with their suggestions? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Christian Dawson <dawson@i2coalition.com<mailto:dawson@i2coalition.com>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 16:22 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) Colleagues, Thanks for the clarifications here on what it is we’re charged with. No matter the charge, having the ability to review the submissions is going to be useful. I’m getting spun up, trying to read up so I can help make an impact. As I do I find I need to ask what might be a silly question. The Public Comment Review Tool doesn’t seem to include the 10,000+ comments from the Save Domain Privacy crowd. When will these comments be listed as comments 90 to 10,090 (or so) on our Subteam 2 Public Comment Review Tool? Seems like their comments in general are completely relevant to subteam 2, question 1 about whether we should break out categories of commercial transactions to bar proxy/privacy. Christian Dawson Chairman & Co-founder Internet Infrastructure Coalition (i2C) c: 703 623 2612 http://i2coalition.com<http://i2coalition.com/> PGP: 22DF5493 Fingerprint: 7C95 A3BE 1E10 4864 8417 DCED B9E1 C8FD 22DF 5493 On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> wrote: Hi Mary, Perhaps it would be best to refer it back to the WG; I wasn't really sure what the responder was referring to -- I thought perhaps this comment belongs under reveal related comments because many service providers give their customers the opportunity to transfer to another service provider when they receive notice of a "complaint" -- not sure -- is there a way to contact the responder to ask his intent? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Thanks so much, Terri! I went back and checked the source of the comment, just to be sure. The commenter basically answered the three questions that were posted on this Section 1.3.3, taking care to include the actual questions. The specific comment you highlighted came at the end, with no other specific reference or pointer to any other WG recommendation or question. That’s why I put it in the 1.3.3. Template even if it seems a bit out of place, so that the Sub Team can decide if it’s more appropriate to refer this back to the WG, e.g. as being a comment more associated with de-accreditation or transfer, or something else. What do you think? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:37 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same format I used for Questions 1 and 2. I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received. Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be included in an accredited P/P service provider’s terms of service, because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P service provider. I would think giving them a week after being notified by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another. I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour grace period. This would give the customer enough time to protect their information. On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hi again Kathy and everyone, We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG. As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things – one, discuss and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week. What do you think? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy : Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance. As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual. Cheers Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> wrote: Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way? It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work... Best, Kathy : Hello everyone, Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound? First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August. Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday? Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this. I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: Hello all, Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool Hi Kiran and everyone, As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 July overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer). It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this train seems to be getting away from us. I Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hello Lindsay and all, I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I’ll need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular option!) Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi all While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal with these extra comments and have a general catch up. 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From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Kiran and everyone, You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign up for each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their report to the WG. Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the staff-provided template will be useful!) Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. K From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are ready; thanks so much! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Mary I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope to have the document up and running too. Many thanks Lindsay Lindsay Hamilton-Reid Legal Counsel Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145<tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> and<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> 1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> .co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> [fh-1and1] ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. 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From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>; Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to give a brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in this process. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Terri Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. Many thanks Lindsay Lindsay Hamilton-Reid Legal Counsel Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145<tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> and<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> 1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> .co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> [fh-1and1] ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or Fasthosts. From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to response #15. Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote: Hi Kiran I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so far? Many thanks Lindsay -----Original Message----- From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann .or g ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Dear All, It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the implications on permissible use. Has anyone started the work on this? Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138><tel:415-419-9138><tel:415-419-9138> (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t need this reminder! If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. Thanks again, and have a great weekend, Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email discussions to this mailing list. Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word document. This is a comment from Web.com<http://web.com/><http://Web.com><http://web.com/>, which I have now added as ROW 85 on page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document circulated previously. I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this Sub Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on Question 2 (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the last person do the remaining general comments? This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template provided or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per this week¹s report. Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for each ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the full WG with this coming Tuesday? Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> ont<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> o<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> .ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing testing SP _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 -- Terri Stumme Intelligence Analyst <image001.jpg> _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 -- Terri Stumme Intelligence Analyst _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 -- Terri Stumme Intelligence Analyst _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2
Hi Lindsay, I am not at my computer so cannot email an attachment at the moment. For clarity, it was not my paper, it was submitted by another WG member, perhaps LegitScript and/or Faegre/FWD Strategies. I would definitely encourage a look before making a determination about current legislation. It is an initial survey of just that, and while we had hoped it would encourage further dialogue, research and discussion, the opponents of the distinction largely ignored it. It is referenced in the statement that we submitted to the initial report in favor of the transactional distinction and there is a link. K Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote: Hi Kiran I have not had the opportunity to read your paper so I cannot comment. I will, however, try to view as I do not think it is illegal under current legislation. If you could email it to me in the interests of speed, I would be grateful. Many thanks Lindsay Sent from my iPhone On 12 Aug 2015, at 22:34, Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> wrote: I agree that this statement is directly applicable to our issue. I disagree that the meaning is unambiguous, and believe that this statement, like others, suffers from poor drafting. Is the use of privacy and proxy services for websites engaged in active financial transactions (taking your credit card, Paypal or other payment information) legal? I believe there were several of us that presented a legal summary which challenged the legality of this. While other opposed the “white paper,” I do not recall seeing any attempt of legal analysis from that opposition. I believe this question is still on the table. Thanks, Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415.222.8318 (t) 415.419.9138 (m) www.markmonitor.com<http://www.markmonitor.com/> From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:17 PM To: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) Hi Mary and All, Unlike Subteam 3, which is trying to interpret the meaning of the SDP comments as they apply to the Court Order v. Annex E issues, the meaning and application of the SDP comments here, all 10042 of them, is clear and directly applicable. Adding them to the spreadsheet ensures their full and fair evaluation alongside the other commenters. Additionally, there must be ways to run word searches against the SDP supplemental comments added by many of commenters to see if they made any additional points relevant to our subteam's work. Best, Kathy : Hi Christian and everyone – thanks for noting this point. As mentioned on the last WG call, staff had not included comments or statements from either the Respect Our Privacy template email or the Save Domain Privacy petition in the templates to date, pending WG agreement on how best to approach these. This past week, Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) has started considering the statements from both groups that relate to “verifiable evidence” for disclosure (Save Domain Privacy) and that information should not be disclosed without a court order (Respect Our Privacy). Looking at the comments in question, the one specific point that would seem to be relevant to this Sub Team’s review is the statement from the Save Domain Privacy petition that supports “the use of privacy services by all, for all legal purposes, regardless of whether the website is “commercial”.” As Sub Team 3 has already noted, the petition was signed by 10,042 persons, a number of whom also sent in additional comments specific to one or more of the statements in the petition. If this Sub Team is going ahead with a call this week to review the documents to date, perhaps the question of where and how to consider the above statement can also be discussed then, or alternatively Sub Team members may want to weigh in via email to this list with their suggestions? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Christian Dawson <dawson@i2coalition.com<mailto:dawson@i2coalition.com>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 16:22 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) Colleagues, Thanks for the clarifications here on what it is we’re charged with. No matter the charge, having the ability to review the submissions is going to be useful. I’m getting spun up, trying to read up so I can help make an impact. As I do I find I need to ask what might be a silly question. The Public Comment Review Tool doesn’t seem to include the 10,000+ comments from the Save Domain Privacy crowd. When will these comments be listed as comments 90 to 10,090 (or so) on our Subteam 2 Public Comment Review Tool? Seems like their comments in general are completely relevant to subteam 2, question 1 about whether we should break out categories of commercial transactions to bar proxy/privacy. Christian Dawson Chairman & Co-founder Internet Infrastructure Coalition (i2C) c: 703 623 2612 http://i2coalition.com<http://i2coalition.com/> PGP: 22DF5493 Fingerprint: 7C95 A3BE 1E10 4864 8417 DCED B9E1 C8FD 22DF 5493 On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> wrote: Hi Mary, Perhaps it would be best to refer it back to the WG; I wasn't really sure what the responder was referring to -- I thought perhaps this comment belongs under reveal related comments because many service providers give their customers the opportunity to transfer to another service provider when they receive notice of a "complaint" -- not sure -- is there a way to contact the responder to ask his intent? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Thanks so much, Terri! I went back and checked the source of the comment, just to be sure. The commenter basically answered the three questions that were posted on this Section 1.3.3, taking care to include the actual questions. The specific comment you highlighted came at the end, with no other specific reference or pointer to any other WG recommendation or question. That’s why I put it in the 1.3.3. Template even if it seems a bit out of place, so that the Sub Team can decide if it’s more appropriate to refer this back to the WG, e.g. as being a comment more associated with de-accreditation or transfer, or something else. What do you think? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:37 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same format I used for Questions 1 and 2. I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received. Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be included in an accredited P/P service provider’s terms of service, because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P service provider. I would think giving them a week after being notified by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another. I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour grace period. This would give the customer enough time to protect their information. On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hi again Kathy and everyone, We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG. As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things – one, discuss and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week. What do you think? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy : Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance. As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual. Cheers Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> wrote: Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way? It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work... Best, Kathy : Hello everyone, Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound? First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August. Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday? Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this. I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: Hello all, Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool Hi Kiran and everyone, As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 July overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer). It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this train seems to be getting away from us. I Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hello Lindsay and all, I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I’ll need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular option!) Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi all While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal with these extra comments and have a general catch up. 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From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Kiran and everyone, You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign up for each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their report to the WG. Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the staff-provided template will be useful!) Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. K From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are ready; thanks so much! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Mary I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope to have the document up and running too. Many thanks Lindsay Lindsay Hamilton-Reid Legal Counsel Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145<tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> and<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> 1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> .co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> [fh-1and1] ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or Fasthosts. From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>; Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to give a brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in this process. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Hi Terri Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. Many thanks Lindsay Lindsay Hamilton-Reid Legal Counsel Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145<tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: 07720 091147 | Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> and<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> 1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> .co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/> [fh-1and1] ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or Fasthosts. From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to response #15. Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote: Hi Kiran I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so far? Many thanks Lindsay -----Original Message----- From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann .or g ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination Dear All, It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the implications on permissible use. Has anyone started the work on this? Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138><tel:415-419-9138><tel:415-419-9138> (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t need this reminder! If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. Thanks again, and have a great weekend, Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email discussions to this mailing list. Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word document. This is a comment from Web.com<http://web.com/><http://Web.com><http://web.com/>, which I have now added as ROW 85 on page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document circulated previously. I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this Sub Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on Question 2 (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the last person do the remaining general comments? This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template provided or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per this week¹s report. Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for each ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the full WG with this coming Tuesday? Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> ont<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> o<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> .ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing testing SP _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 -- Terri Stumme Intelligence Analyst <image001.jpg> _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 -- Terri Stumme Intelligence Analyst _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 -- Terri Stumme Intelligence Analyst _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2
Thanks, Terri I honestly wasn’t sure either, especially concerning what sort of mandatory provisions the commenter may have had in mind. The rest of the comment seems to concern the customer’s going to a different provider, so I figured that must mean either (a) the provider has informed the customer that the service is being suspended or terminated (e.g. for breach of one of the terms of service); (b) the provider has informed the customer that there has been a disclosure request but that the customer may opt to terminate service (where the provider offers that option); (c) it is a domain name transfer situation; or (d) the provider is about to be de-accredited and has given notice as such (in whatever way). Each of these scenarios is currently dealt with by a different WG preliminary recommendation, so I can insert the comment into all four categories for the WG to review (perhaps with possibility (b) being referred to Sub Team 3 that is dealing with Annex E). We don’t normally contact a commenter to seek clarification though I suppose we could if there is consensus that it would be necessary to do so. Does this make sense? Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 13:44 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hi Mary,
Perhaps it would be best to refer it back to the WG; I wasn't really sure what the responder was referring to -- I thought perhaps this comment belongs under reveal related comments because many service providers give their customers the opportunity to transfer to another service provider when they receive notice of a "complaint" -- not sure -- is there a way to contact the responder to ask his intent?
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks so much, Terri!
I went back and checked the source of the comment, just to be sure. The commenter basically answered the three questions that were posted on this Section 1.3.3, taking care to include the actual questions. The specific comment you highlighted came at the end, with no other specific reference or pointer to any other WG recommendation or question. That’s why I put it in the 1.3.3. Template even if it seems a bit out of place, so that the Sub Team can decide if it’s more appropriate to refer this back to the WG, e.g. as being a comment more associated with de-accreditation or transfer, or something else.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:37 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same format I used for Questions 1 and 2.
I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received.
Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be included in an accredited P/P service provider’s terms of service, because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P service provider. I would think giving them a week after being notified by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another. I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour grace period. This would give the customer enough time to protect their information.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hi again Kathy and everyone,
We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG.
As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things one, discuss and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy :
Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance.
As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual.
Cheers Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> wrote:
> Hi Mary and All, > Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on > Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, > and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), > then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow > only if question #1 had a clear response the other way? > > It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next > week? It might save all of us a lot of work... > > Best, > Kathy > > : > Hello everyone, > > Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s > commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound? > > First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of > Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and > 2, > which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can > be > based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due > date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 > August. > > Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your > collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in > respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to > these > questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the > WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of > this > week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday? > > Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall > assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can > be > scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review > what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single > report for the full WG following this. > > I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a > starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to > proceed, and who is to volunteer for what. > > Cheers > > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email: mary.wong@icann.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin > <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 > To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call > > I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far > cant be there. Can we push to next week? > Stephanie > > On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: > I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. > > Kiran Malancharuvil > Policy Counselor > MarkMonitor > 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> > <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: > > Hello all, > > Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 > August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 > responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for > BOTH > Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. > > Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting > this > Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we > try > to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? > > > FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest > documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, > and > Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: > https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to > Review Tool > > Hi Kiran and everyone, > > As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly > administrative, > i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move > forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on > remaining > tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the > petitions > and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will > clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. > > Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 > July > overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, > and > picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly > relevant to > this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent > response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the > additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub > Team > - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two > additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help > with > incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you > prefer). > > It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I > complete > the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary > recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, > and of > course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to > your > material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so > everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. > > Thanks and cheers > > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> , > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will > listen > to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or > out, > can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but > this > train seems to be getting away from us. > > I > > Kiran Malancharuvil > Policy Counselor > MarkMonitor > 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > > Hello Lindsay and all, > > I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: > http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. > > As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), > I’ll > need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a > couple of > times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at > their > earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a > popular > option!) > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi all > > While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to > deal > with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even > sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how > we > move forward. > > Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a > poll? > > Thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | > Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. 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They also plan on > preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y > number > of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their > report to the WG. > > Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works > best > for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub > Team > and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the > staff-provided template will be useful!) > > Cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > Lindsay > Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >, Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for > lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. > > K > > From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in > addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. > Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if > appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you > are > ready; thanks so much! > > Cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > Terri > Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi Mary > > I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also > hope > to have the document up and running too. > > Many thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | > Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should not > disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > provided > by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > subsequently > confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > Fasthosts. > > > > From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] > Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >; Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take > on > Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous > comments). If > it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to > give a > brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? > > Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a > team > of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss > their > findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others > to do > the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, > please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff > in > this process. > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 > To: Terri Stumme > <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > Hi Terri > > Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on > question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the > relevant > questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. > > Many thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > Legal Counsel > Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | > Mobile: 07720 091147 | > > Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 > and > 1 > .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> > <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > [fh-1and1] > > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > name > of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > Registered in > England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should not > disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > provided > by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > subsequently > confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > Fasthosts. > > > > From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] > Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 > To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > > Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo > nit > o > r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; > gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking > longer > than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to > response #15. > > Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast > hos > t > s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > wrote: > > Hi Kiran > > > > I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no > idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different > question. I > should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is > going to > take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done > so > far? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Lindsay > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > > [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann > .or > g > ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil > Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > > Dear All, > > > > It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and > the > implications on permissible use. > > > > Has anyone started the work on this? > > > > Kiran > > > > Kiran Malancharuvil > > Policy Counselor > > MarkMonitor > > 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> <tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > > > Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > > > On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong > <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the > subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) > suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please > accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t > need > this reminder! > If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are > scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would > greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we > will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. > Thanks again, and have a great weekend, > Mary > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 > To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub > Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! > It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email > discussions to this mailing list. > Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments > received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to > have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word > document. > This is a comment from Web.com <http://Web.com> <http://Web.com>, which > I have now > added > as ROW 85 on > page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document > circulated previously. > I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. > Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more > general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this > Sub > Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work > such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through > Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on > Question 2 > (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the > last > person do the remaining general comments? > This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same > format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template > provided > or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per > this week¹s report. > Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together > (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations > to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. > If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for > each > ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the > full > WG with this coming Tuesday? > Thanks and cheers > Mary > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: > > <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > on behalf of Stephanie Perrin > > <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor > ont > o > .ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 > To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > testing > SP > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > > -- > Terri Stumme > Intelligence Analyst > <image001.jpg> > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ > mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2
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Yes, it makes perfect sense to me. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks, Terri – I honestly wasn’t sure either, especially concerning what sort of mandatory provisions the commenter may have had in mind. The rest of the comment seems to concern the customer’s going to a different provider, so I figured that must mean either (a) the provider has informed the customer that the service is being suspended or terminated (e.g. for breach of one of the terms of service); (b) the provider has informed the customer that there has been a disclosure request but that the customer may opt to terminate service (where the provider offers that option); (c) it is a domain name transfer situation; or (d) the provider is about to be de-accredited and has given notice as such (in whatever way).
Each of these scenarios is currently dealt with by a different WG preliminary recommendation, so I can insert the comment into all four categories for the WG to review (perhaps with possibility (b) being referred to Sub Team 3 that is dealing with Annex E). We don’t normally contact a commenter to seek clarification though I suppose we could if there is consensus that it would be necessary to do so.
Does this make sense?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 13:44
To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hi Mary,
Perhaps it would be best to refer it back to the WG; I wasn't really sure what the responder was referring to -- I thought perhaps this comment belongs under reveal related comments because many service providers give their customers the opportunity to transfer to another service provider when they receive notice of a "complaint" -- not sure -- is there a way to contact the responder to ask his intent?
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks so much, Terri!
I went back and checked the source of the comment, just to be sure. The commenter basically answered the three questions that were posted on this Section 1.3.3, taking care to include the actual questions. The specific comment you highlighted came at the end, with no other specific reference or pointer to any other WG recommendation or question. That’s why I put it in the 1.3.3. Template even if it seems a bit out of place, so that the Sub Team can decide if it’s more appropriate to refer this back to the WG, e.g. as being a comment more associated with de-accreditation or transfer, or something else.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com> Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:37 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" < gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same format I used for Questions 1 and 2.
I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received.
Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be included in an accredited P/P service provider’s terms of service, because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P service provider. I would think giving them a week after being notified by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another. I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour grace period. This would give the customer enough time to protect their information.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hi again Kathy and everyone,
We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG.
As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things – one, discuss and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team call next week.
What do you think?
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
Hi Mary, Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. Best, Kathy :
Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance.
As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual.
Cheers Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> wrote:
Hi Mary and All, Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only if question #1 had a clear response the other way?
It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next week? It might save all of us a lot of work...
Best, Kathy
:
Hello everyone,
Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound?
First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August.
Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday?
Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this.
I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what.
Cheers
Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
-----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin<stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call
I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far cant be there. Can we push to next week? Stephanie
On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote:
I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available.
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor415-419-9138 (m)
Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello all,
Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2.
Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first?
FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2:https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw.
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
-----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool
Hi Kiran and everyone,
As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will clarify timelines and tasks for everyone.
Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 July overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer).
It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>,"gnso-ppsai2@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this train seems to be getting away from us.
I
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor415-419-9138 (m)
Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello Lindsay and all,
I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week:http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb.
As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I’ll need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular option!)
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi all
While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how we move forward.
Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a poll?
Thanks
Lindsay
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From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org <gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Kiran and everyone,
You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign up for each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their report to the WG.
Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the staff-provided template will be useful!)
Cheers Mary
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From: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for lagging on this, but I am traveling this week.
K
From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org <mary.wong@icann.org>] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil;gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are ready; thanks so much!
Cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Mary
I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope to have the document up and running too.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org <mary.wong@icann.org>] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>; Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to give a brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow?
Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in this process.
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com> <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Hi Terri
Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then.
Many thanks
Lindsay
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From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com <terri.stumme@legitscript.com>] Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil
<Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo nit o r.com> <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>>;gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to response #15.
Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid
<Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast hos t s.com> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote:
Hi Kiran
I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so far?
Many thanks
Lindsay
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Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
Dear All,
It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the implications on permissible use.
Has anyone started the work on this?
Kiran
Kiran Malancharuvil
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MarkMonitor 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> <415-419-9138> (m)
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On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t need this reminder!
If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room.
Thanks again, and have a great weekend,
Mary
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-----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> <mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing
Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)!
It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email discussions to this mailing list.
Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word document. This is a comment from Web.com<http://Web.com> <http://Web.com>, which I have now added as ROW 85 on page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document circulated previously. I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly.
Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this Sub Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on Question 2 (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the last person do the remaining general comments?
This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template provided or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per this week¹s report. Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG.
If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for each ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the full WG with this coming Tuesday?
Thanks and cheers Mary
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