Hi all, I've reviewed the new impressions doc, thank you to the Staff team for providing that. I added one option to the Status column for the registrar tab (and then realized I probably should've asked first, sorry) - I added "Cancelled/request withdrawn" as there have been a few where that was the outcome. Re the request I shared last week, to be able to change an outcome after it's tracked, it turns out this is already captured as 16, and is related to 15. The RrSG was to consider if we really do want this with the understanding that it would be a high level of effort; we can now safely say the answer to that is 'yes'. And a scheduling note - I happen to be off work on July 1 and July 15 so if we meet on those dates the RrSG will be represented by Roger. If we meet on the 8th it'll be me. Thank you, *Sarah Wyld, CIPP/E* Policy & Privacy Manager Pronouns: she/they swyld@tucows.com On 2024-06-21 11:47 a.m., Lisa Carter wrote:
Hi All,
Just confirming that someone from the Standing Committee will be adding these suggestions to the Impressions Document and prioritizing them.
Thanks
Lisa Carter
Sr. Program Manager, Strategic Initiatives
ICANN
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*From: *Steve Crocker via Gnso-rdrs-sc <gnso-rdrs-sc@icann.org> *Reply-To: *"steve@shinkuro.com" <steve@shinkuro.com> *Date: *Friday, June 21, 2024 at 7:10 AM *To: *Sarah Wyld <swyld@tucows.com> *Cc: *"gnso-rdrs-sc@icann.org" <gnso-rdrs-sc@icann.org> *Subject: *[Gnso-rdrs-sc] Re: Rr Request - update outcomes
I support Sarah's suggestion. With respect to "Registrars are also sensitive that the ability to adjust an outcome would cause fluctuation on the reporting metrics," adherence to the current design in order to keep the measurements comparable over time is the wrong perspective. It might have been a relevant perspective if the experiment had been designed more thoroughly and more carefully. However, the idea that the statistics being collected will provide a solid basis for future decision-making is wrong. The RDRS and the collection of data does not meet the basic requirements for validity for a statistical experiment.
Sarah's feedback is far more relevant in terms of understanding what a system should look like and how to design a better system.
Steve
On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 9:14 AM Sarah Wyld via Gnso-rdrs-sc <gnso-rdrs-sc@icann.org> wrote:
Hello Team,
Several registrars have expressed a desire for 'request update' functionality to be built in to the RDRS. I thought it would be worth discussing before submitting it as a formal request in the Impressions Doc.
As reminder, there is no 'pending input' status; instead, a ticket is submitted and remains in 'open' status until the registrar closes it with a response outcome. This leads to some tickets remaining open for extended periods, as the registrar awaits input external to the RDRS.
What I hear from registrars is:
* I would like to to close a ticket because I asked for more info and then later when they provide it, change the outcome (to disclosed or denied as appropriate). This would let me log outcomes more accurately (indicating when I responded to the request) * I want to put tickets in a 'pending input' status and have them automatically close if the requestor does not provide more info within a specific timeframe. In that case then it would be useful to be able reopen the ticket instead of create a new one if the requestor comes back after that timeframe.
Registrars are also sensitive that the ability to adjust an outcome would cause fluctuation on the reporting metrics, however I think that since it would result in (a) fewer re-requests and (b) more accurate reported outcomes, and also since our purpose is primarily to track request volume which would be more correct if requests can be adjusted rather than duplicative requests being created, this seems like a positive change to me.
It would perhaps be worth considering if we could add a new metric to show how many requests were closed as requiring more info and then adjusted to a different outcome later on.
Thank you,
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*Sarah Wyld, CIPP/E*
Policy & Privacy Manager Pronouns: she/they
swyld@tucows.com
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