Thanks Eleeza, I appreciate this response and look forward to seeing the next report. I truly hope that Metric 10 will be revised so that we do not continue to paint an inaccurate picture of the data for the broader community, even inadvertently. *Sarah Wyld, CIPP/E* Policy & Privacy Manager Pronouns: she/they swyld@tucows.com On 2024-02-01 5:02 p.m., Eleeza Agopian wrote:
Dear Sarah,
Thank you very much for your feedback. I wanted to share a few replies to your comments and questions below from the project team:
*“At this point the Metric 10 is comparing the lookup rate for domains with non-participating registrars against the actual /request/ rate for domains /with /participating registrars, which is not an 'apples to apples' comparison.” *
ICANN org response: While we do not have precise data on the number of lookup as we looked into it as an afterthought, your comment about how Metric 10 is not an apples-to-apples comparison, and how many lookup that resulted in participating registrars did not proceed to request submission is correct. Initially, the Small Team requested the number of requests submitted to participating vs non-participating registrars. As the RDRS did not have an ability to enable submission of requests to the non-participating registrars, the closest thing we settled on tracking was a number for lookups for non-participating registrars. This has resulted in painting a skewed picture, as if most of the lookups resulted in non-participating registrars when this was not the case. We will explore whether we can improve the data presented in Metric 10 to reduce confusion.
*“Maybe this metric (8)should simply be renamed to "Disclosure Requests by Category"?”*
*ICANN org response: *You are correct. This will be renamed “Disclosure Requests by Request Type.”
Thank you again,
Eleeza
ICANN org liaison
*From: *Gnso-rdrs-sc <gnso-rdrs-sc-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Sarah Wyld <swyld@tucows.com> *Organization: *Tucows *Date: *Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 6:18 AM *To: *"gnso-rdrs-sc@icann.org" <gnso-rdrs-sc@icann.org> *Subject: *[Gnso-rdrs-sc] First Report questions
Hello all,
I've watched the meeting recording and reviewed the report, and have a couple questions.
Metric 10 was discussed during the meeting; the understanding I came away with was that although it shows that 80% of lookups were for domains registered with non-participating registrars, the actual distribution of lookup between participating and non-participating was about 50/50. It seemed that a large portion of the lookups for domains with participating registrars do not proceed to the request stage, so only 19% of those lookups turn into requests, leaving us with the impression that most lookups are for non-participating when that is actually not the case. If that understanding is correct (and I think it is, but it sure is convoluted upon re-reading it) can this be made more clear somehow in the report? *At this point the Metric 10 is comparing the lookup rate for domains with non-participating registrars against the actual /request/ rate for domains /with /participating registrars, which is not an 'apples to apples' comparison. *
There was also some discussion about request type vs request*or* type. Metric 8 is titled "Disclosure Requests by Requestor Type" but the chart itself has a column "Request Category". This may seem like a distinction without difference but I do think we should be consistent; are we categorizing the request itself, or the requestor? I think it's the request, since in RDRS the user selects a "request category". *Maybe this metric should simply be renamed to "Disclosure Requests by Category"? *
Thanks very much*,*
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*Sarah Wyld, CIPP/E*
Policy & Privacy Manager Pronouns: she/they
swyld@tucows.com