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Final DT2 doc.
by Deacon, Alex March 8, 2018

March 8, 2018

FYI - Attached is the “final” DT2 doc. Lisa edited it to focus on the questions and to reflect the relevant WG agreements – especially for domain name management. Alex

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ICANN61 Prep Assignment - Domain Name Control and Individual Internet Use
by Deacon, Alex March 6, 2018

March 6, 2018

Drafting Team 2, As those who were on the RDS WG call on Tuesday heard, we have decided to take a week to prep for ICANN61 by working on a specific assignment in drafting team mode. Our team’s assignment is to reexamine our past output on Domain Name Control and Individual Internet Use. As a reminder the final output of your team can be reviewed at https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/74580010/RDS%20WG%20DT2%20… We have now been asked to answer the following questions more explicitly and conceptually: 1. Who associated with the domain name registration needs to be identified and/or contacted for each purpose? 2. What is the objective achieved by identifying and/or contacting each of those entities? 3. What might be expected of that entity with regard to the domain name? To prep for ICANN61, it is imperative that we discuss these questions and produce output over the next week – ideally by 5 March but no later than 7 March. We know this is a tall order, give a short timeframe. However, the leadership believes that this will help us use our F2F time at ICANN61 more effectively, which I hope we all agree would be a terrific idea. I’ve attached a template for us to use in answering these questions. I hope to propose some answer to these questions later today but given the time crunch I wanted to send this email (and the template) to the team sooner rather than later. To learn more about this assignment, please read these instructions: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/79432608/Drafting%20Team%2…<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.…> If you were unable to attend today’s WG call, please catch up by reading or listening to the call recording/notes/transcript: https://community.icann.org/x/oAu8B<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.…> To get started, please ask any questions you may have about this assignment within the next 24 hours. If you have any suggested edits or additions or deletions to the attached first draft, even better! I encourage you to share them in reply to this message, copying the DT mailing list gnso-rds-pdp-2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-2@icann.org> Thanks for doing what you can to help this drafting team come through on this new assignment.

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Drafting team 2 final - Domain Name Management and Individual Internet User
by Susan Kawaguchi Nov. 13, 2017

Nov. 13, 2017

Hello All, I made a few changes to the document after reviewing with the leadership team and reviewing notes from our F2F in AbuDhabi. I changed the title from Domain Name Control to Domain Name Management as there was discussion pertaining to this in the F2F. Also reformatted the definition of Individual internet use to conform to the required format. Susan

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Updated draft of Domain Name Control and Individual Internet user
by Susan Kawaguchi Nov. 9, 2017

Nov. 9, 2017

Hello, Andrew, Tapani and I were on the call yesterday to discuss edits to the two use cases this team is working on. Please see the attached draft and provide any edits, comments or concerns by Friday evening. This will then be distributed to the full working group for discussion on Tuesday's call. We need a volunteer to lead the discussion of our work, please let me know if you are interested. Best regards, Susan

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**Updated** AC Recording, AC Chat & attendance from Next-Gen RDS drafting team 2 - Domain Name Control -and- Individual Internet Use call on Wednesday, 08 November 2017
by Michelle DeSmyter Nov. 9, 2017

Nov. 9, 2017

Dear all, Please find below the Adobe Connect recording, chat and attendance from the Next-Gen RDS drafting team 2 - Domain Name Control -and- Individual Internet Use call held on Wednesday, 08 November 2017 at 15:00 UTC. Adobe Connect recording: https://participate.icann.org/p1xh5qi4yv5/ Apology: Daniel Nanghaka Attendance: Susan Kawaguchi, Tapani Tarvainen, Andrew Sullivan Staff: Michelle DeSmyter Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle Adobe Connect Chat: Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the Next-Gen RDS Drafting team #2: Domain Name Control -and- Individual Internet Use call on 08 November 2017 at 15:00 UTC Susan Kawaguchi:Good morning Michelle, I just emailed you a document for this call, can you upload it when the meeting starts? Michelle DeSmyter:absolutely ;) Susan Kawaguchi:Good morning Tapani Tapani Tarvainen:Good evening Susan :-) Susan Kawaguchi:Ahh I always forget about time zones! Tapani Tarvainen:Apologies in advance, I'll have to leave in about 30 minutes Tapani Tarvainen:Yes. Better leave possibly overlapping stuff there than remove things that might be relevant Tapani Tarvainen:Perhaps also good to clarify that "Individual internet user" means non-registrant (i.e., excluding domain control) Tapani Tarvainen:+1 Andrew andrew sullivan:I can't do it -- I'll be in SIN for the IETF meeting andrew sullivan:I won't make Tuesday Tapani Tarvainen:I'm afraid I may also miss it

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AC Recording, AC Chat & attendance from Next-Gen RDS drafting team 2 - Domain Name Control -and- Individual Internet Use call on Wednesday, 08 November 2017
by Michelle DeSmyter Nov. 8, 2017

Nov. 8, 2017

Dear all, Please find below the Adobe Connect recording, chat and attendance from the Next-Gen RDS drafting team 2 - Domain Name Control -and- Individual Internet Use call held on Wednesday, 08 November 2017 at 15:00 UTC. Adobe Connect recording: https://participate.icann.org/p1xh5qi4yv5/ Attendance: Susan Kawaguchi, Tapani Tarvainen, Andrew Sullivan Staff: Michelle DeSmyter Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle Adobe Connect Chat: Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the Next-Gen RDS Drafting team #2: Domain Name Control -and- Individual Internet Use call on 08 November 2017 at 15:00 UTC Susan Kawaguchi:Good morning Michelle, I just emailed you a document for this call, can you upload it when the meeting starts? Michelle DeSmyter:absolutely ;) Susan Kawaguchi:Good morning Tapani Tapani Tarvainen:Good evening Susan :-) Susan Kawaguchi:Ahh I always forget about time zones! Tapani Tarvainen:Apologies in advance, I'll have to leave in about 30 minutes Tapani Tarvainen:Yes. Better leave possibly overlapping stuff there than remove things that might be relevant Tapani Tarvainen:Perhaps also good to clarify that "Individual internet user" means non-registrant (i.e., excluding domain control) Tapani Tarvainen:+1 Andrew andrew sullivan:I can't do it -- I'll be in SIN for the IETF meeting andrew sullivan:I won't make Tuesday Tapani Tarvainen:I'm afraid I may also miss it

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Drafting team 2 template
by Susan Kawaguchi Oct. 27, 2017

Oct. 27, 2017

Hello All, Please see the attached template for drafting team 2 covering Domain Name Control and Individual Internet Users for tomorrow's session. Susan

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Draft of possible purposes
by Susan Kawaguchi Oct. 26, 2017

Oct. 26, 2017

Hello All, Attached please find the chart we worked on yesterday during our call. Please let me know if you have any revisions or additional information. I will put this information into the standard template that Lisa provided for us for the Saturday meeting. We still need a volunteer to present the information in Abu Dhabi. Best regards, Susan

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Attendance, Adobe Connect recording and chat / Next-Gen RDS drafting team 2 - Domain Name Control -and- Individual Internet Use call on Tuesday, 24 October 2017 at 13:00 UTC
by Julie Bisland Oct. 24, 2017

Oct. 24, 2017

Dear all, Please find below the Adobe Connect recording, chat and attendance from the Next-Gen RDS drafting team 2 - Domain Name Control -and- Individual Internet Use call held on Tuesday, 24 October 2017 at 13:00 UTC. Adobe Connect recording: https://participate.icann.org/p4e3e48g3xc/<https://participate.icann.org/p4e3e48g3xc/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=ba32205baa7d5c6f…> Apology: Daniel Nanghaka Attendance: Susan Kawaguchi, Maxim Alzoba, Volker Greimann, Tapani Tarvainen, Andrew Sullivan Staff: Julie Bisland Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Adobe Connect Chat: Julie Bisland:Welcome to the Next-Gen RDS Drafting team #2: Domain Name Control -and- Individual Internet Use call on 24 October 2017 at 13:00 UTC Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Hello All Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):it is Starbucks , music and students :( Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):will use chat mostly Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I think we need Volker (for Registrars perspective) Tapani Tarvainen:Yes. We won't get very far with just the three of us. :-( Tapani Tarvainen:Unfortunately I haven't had time to go through it with any detail Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):about 1. Account creation: Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):there is a difference between creation of registrant ID in RO system and in Registrar system Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):so it could be Accounts creation and not account creation Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):domain transfer is done via e-mail or offline (fax) usually Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):as parties have to have proof of request e.t.c. and voice does not fit here Tapani Tarvainen:So both registrant-registrant and same owner between two registrars are covered? Any need to differentiate them? Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):we have two elements instead of one and it seems to be important Tapani Tarvainen:Yes, having accounts in plural sounds good to me, can't see it making any difference in the other columns though Tapani Tarvainen:Hi Volker! Julie Bisland:Welcome Volker :) Volker Greimann:Hello. Sorry for the delay, but I think I indicated I would not be available in the doodle, as I have a meeting that usually runs until now... Volker Greimann:but I am fine with now Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Hi Volker! Tapani Tarvainen:+1 Maxim Tapani Tarvainen:In Data column perhaps expiration date? Tapani Tarvainen:for portfolio mgmt that is Tapani Tarvainen:contact info could also be relevant in Data field for Deletion/Update/Renewals Tapani Tarvainen:Maxim: yes, there're two different use cases. Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):actual deletion is done on behalf of registrant, or by registrar, or by registry (and URS, court actions, ICANN might cause those) Tapani Tarvainen:So perhaps describe two different things in the Tasks column? Tapani Tarvainen:Validation: anyone with a legal gripe ... Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):also Law Enforcement might request it (and Registry itselft) Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):about Contact validation Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Plese give mic to Voplker Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Volker Tapani Tarvainen:Volker: at this point I think we're just listing _possible_ users and uses, describing them, not arguing for or against inclusion in the RDS Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Registrar is in contractual relations with Registrant/Reseller ... and might check validity for business purposes Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):but yes, Volker said it right - using internal data sets Julie Bisland:Welcome Andrew Sullivan! andrew sullivan:a million apologies -- a minor emergency kept me away from my computer so I couldn't even warn I'd be late. Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Registry has no direct relations with registrant (usually , when they are not registrant themself) Tapani Tarvainen:So let's describe the current transfer process - we're not supposed to decide whether or not that is good or justifies the data in RDS, Tapani Tarvainen:If we try to decide or even collect all reasons for and against including these in RDS there's no way we'll get it done in the time we have. So let's concentrate on defining or describing the things and leave the need for RDS to the large group. andrew sullivan:My point is that nobody needs the RDS for this now. The <domain:info> and <contact:info> commands are enough Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):do we still have audio? andrew sullivan:also, I appear to have lost audio? Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I lost it andrew sullivan:oh, good :) Tapani Tarvainen:I can hear you Susan Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I hear you now Tapani Tarvainen:Maybe describe the transfer tasks and put in Users column "nobody" :-) andrew sullivan:ok :) Tapani Tarvainen:Not sure what the Real World Contact is for... Tapani Tarvainen:Keep it in but describe it a bit better Tapani Tarvainen:Use cases could include abuse issues Tapani Tarvainen:website lookup doesn't work for email-only domains Tapani Tarvainen:+1 Andrew Tapani Tarvainen:Another (admittedly geeky) consumer protection use case: when browser alerts about cross-site scripting or similar andrew sullivan:Agree. Indeed, if the RDS were more reliable and useful a number of considerable improvements to anti-abuse efforts would be posible andrew sullivan:possible, even andrew sullivan:It's not the registrar who has this problem Tapani Tarvainen:Volker: without disagreeing, we can't decide that here, let's save arguments about that to the main group andrew sullivan:+1 Volker Greimann:sure\ andrew sullivan:I will not be there and won't even be on the phone Volker Greimann:sadly, I only will arrive on Sat night Tapani Tarvainen:It's 5pm here :-) Volker Greimann:I will be at the second meeting andrew sullivan:No, it's my mother's 80th birthday :) Tapani Tarvainen:In Abu Dhabi I'll probably miss half the RDS session andrew sullivan:that's the reason I'm not going Volker Greimann:that is a very good reason\ andrew sullivan:bye a andrew sullivan:l Tapani Tarvainen:Thank you all and bye Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I am not sure that I will be able to deliver it properly :) Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):bye all and safe travels

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RDS team 2 Domain Name Control and Individual Internet users
by Susan Kawaguchi Oct. 23, 2017

Oct. 23, 2017

Hello all, Thank you for the good discussion on Tuesday's call. In an effort to move things along I have created a chart in which we can answer the questions we were asked in the template. In addition please think about the following when filling out the chart. - What's missing? - What's confusing? - What really needs to be fleshed out? I have included the EWG examples please indicate whether or not you agree with those uses and if you do please answer the following questions for each of the uses. You may also have additional uses please add those to the chart. *Tasks:* List and briefly describe tasks commonly involved in carrying out this purpose. Hint: Specific use cases for each purpose may be helpful as a starting point for enumerating tasks. * Users:* Describe the parties who often access gTLD registration data in pursuit of this purpose. *Data:* List of gTLD registration data often involved in this purpose – for contact data, please identify the data subject (e.g., registrant, tech contact, registrar, etc.) and data element(s) as applicable. Once we have input from all the members of the team I will create one document for discussion and finalization next week. Best regards, Susan

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