Thanks, Kris @all: I do not feel comfortable editing in the Word docs as that just creates confusion (at least fro me) in terms of what the latest version is we’re working on. Anyway. Some comments with regard to the ‘contractual enforcement’ draft that was attached to the message below: Definition: - ’information collected to enable ICANN compliance’: information collected by who? - what/who exactly is ICANN compliance? - the way I read the definition as is it implies that ICANN Compliance is involved in ‘resolving issues of compliance arising from private party contracts’. That is not want we are to say right? - I would take out the ‘private party contract’ here and put it e.g. in a footnote Alternative definition, as a suggestion: ‘The obtaining of WHOIS data by ICANN Compliance to assist them in the monitoring and enforcing of agreements between contracted parties and ICANN, as well as the obtaining of public available WHOIS data by private entities to help resolving issues of compliance arising from contracts between private parties’ Tasks: - I do not understand the ‘Apart from the IP this is also used to identify the identity of the holders of domain names as a first level review. This can come from individuals or small companies’: what does that mean? What is a ‘first level review’ and why is that relevant here? Users: -the definition we’re using refers to in general terms to ‘private party contracts’. The list of users in the current draft seems a lot more limited IMO Hope this is useful input, Regards, Bastiaan
On 2 Nov 2017, at 09:36, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> wrote:
Chuck looked up at your edits and made a few balancing facts. I am now forwarding the updated latest document that we have worked on. We will also be finding a way to work with the team who have worked on “Legal” and i think we may need at some point work with the “investigation” team which in reality also matches with both the enforcement and regulatory. Just some suggestions. They will be good additions to our work. In fact i feel there are areas that overlap which may be the connection points to the whole of each group. But that would be a later stage approach.
I think we need to update and push it to the google docs now so that everyone sees the same versioning as we move. Suggestions: Use cases as Appendix to the documents. Anything else to grow the document and understanding can be laid out as an appendix to each document.
Another area that we may add at a later stage is “new gtld auction proceeds” they may be within contractual enforcement and some other groups.
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On Nov 2, 2017, at 08:13, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
I think I created the confusion by mixing up the two DTs that I am coordinating. To try to eliminate the confusion I created two new redline versions that are attached. For the Regulatory Purpose I accepted the previous edits made and added some new ones. For the Contractual Enforcement Purpose I left the previous redlined edits and added some of my own.
For both documents, please check what I did to ensure that it is okay and feel free to add additional redlined edits as well as comments/questions.
Chuck
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 5:56 AM To: 'lisa@corecom.com' <lisa@corecom.com>; 'Bastiaan Goslings' <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com Cc: GNSO-RDS-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] DT5 Update
OK, I am now completely confused, since neither the link Lisa provides nor the one Chuck provides reflects the bifurcation of legal and regulatory enforcement into separate documents, which Chuck just now stated in the RDS meeting has been done. I believe the most recent iteration of that approach was the one I circulated around 4 pm EDT (midnight AD time) which I attach here. However it is quite possible I have missed something overnight……
Steve
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From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Phifer Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 6:55 AM To: 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com Cc: GNSO-RDS-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] DT5 Update
All, the easiest way to step through the email exchanged by this team is your DT mailing list archive: Http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/
It appears from that email archive that the latest version of your working document is (maintained in Word format: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/attachments/20171031/d68aa0b0/D...
Regards Lisa
-----Original Message----- From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Bastiaan Goslings Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:36 PM To: consult@cgomes.com Cc: GNSO-RDS-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] DT5 Update
Yep, good to hear that you’re ok, Kris!
I hope you guys don’t mind me asking, but can someone please forward the latest version of the DT5 purpose doc that we are meant to provide an update on this afternoon? Since a google-doc was not used (?), and I cannot find the latest draft in the email-swamp I’m facing…
thanks ;-) Bastiaan
On 1 Nov 2017, at 14:27, consult@cgomes.com wrote:
Glad to hear that Kris.
Chuck
From: Kris Seeburn [mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 3:25 AM To: consult@cgomes.com Cc: GNSO-RDS-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] DT5 Update
Am back i was given a treatment for an infection and now am on antibiotics and pain killers. I will be in the 4 PM meeting. Just attending another meeting right now…but have already set apology for 4 PM.
See you in a few.
On Nov 1, 2017, at 14:20, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
We could have looked at you if that is all you need Kris! 😊 Hope all is well.
Chuck
From: Kris Seeburn [mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:11 PM To: consult@cgomes.com Cc: GNSO-RDS-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] DT5 Update
Remind me the time in the afternoon plz. Am headed to clinic now to have a doctor have a look at me
Kris
On 1 Nov 2017, at 08:47, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Kris,
Can you give a 2 or 3 minute update in the WG meeting today of what DT6 has done since Saturday?
Chuck
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