I think this entire notion of "camps" is the wrong way to go about it. It's a military metaphor, after all, and it suggests that someone needs to "win the battle". If we start from that point of view, we risk polarization for no obvious good reason, we possibly neglect alternative points of view that are less concerned about this particular dichotomy, and we undermine the multi- part of multi-stakeholder. Best regards, A On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:40:07PM +0000, Mark Svancarek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg wrote:
Camp #1: Consumers, the domain name industry, governments, and intellectual property owners, and individual registrants all have a vested interest in an RDS system which contains accurate and complete registration data…. These stakeholders have similar yet distinct requirements regarding the particular data which should be collected and the conditions under which it can be viewed.
Camp #2: Additionally, there are some entities which desire anonymity for free speech and personal safety reasons, and their requirements regarding data collection and data access may be at odds with the aforementioned stakeholders.
/msv
From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Sam Lanfranco Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:09 PM To: Greg Aaron <gca@icginc.com>; Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com>; Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com> Cc: RDS PDP WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For WG Review - Redlined Problem Statement
Greg, As I understand it the "two camps" are just the providers of data and the users of data.
The wording might be "...or other groups, may have interests as providers of data or as users of data depending on circumstances." Sam L. On 8/18/2016 2:58 PM, Greg Aaron wrote: Attached is a revised draft, as requested. Red-line and comments are turned on.
The first paragraph now quotes from the WG’s charter. The last draft paraphrased, which left out relevant sections of the WG’s mission. (Quoting from source docs can help us avoid omissions, scope creep, etc.)
A question: the last draft said “Members of the global population of end-users, whether they are individuals, organizations, companies, or other groups, may fall into either camp depending on circumstances.” What are the two camps being referred to, and what are we trying to say with this sentence? It does not seem to be about anonymous registrants in the preceding sentence, otherwise we’d say “registrants” rather than “end-users.” Are we trying to say that there is a wide range of end-users and they may have various views on the issues depending on their use cases and circumstances?
All best, --Greg
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