Unfortunately, in a world where the Internet of things is taking off, privacy advocates and authorities have to insist that data generated by or as a result of the actions of an individual or his devices(eg metadata, timestamping, etc) has to be considered as personal information. If it is used to describe processes pertaining to that information, if it could be used to incriminate that individual, it is important that it be recognized as information for which individuals have rights. Otherwise, we have a situation where the individual has no right to access information that may impact him, may incriminate him, but to which he may be utterly oblivious. Sorry it is such a pain in the neck, but there we are. Stephanie On 2017-01-25 12:32, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
Scott
Sure, but if we go down that route we could make cases for a lot of things J
My main problem with this entire debacle is that the data we’re dealing with is pretty much useless and isn’t personally identifiable.
Regards
Michele
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*From: *Scott Hollenbeck <shollenbeck@verisign.com> *Date: *Wednesday 25 January 2017 at 17:15 *To: *Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com>, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>, Sam Lanfranco <sam@lanfranco.net>, "dave@davecake.net" <dave@davecake.net> *Cc: *"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll on Purpose
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Stephanie
Sorry, but policy + the technology go hand in hand. You cannot completely separate them and any policy that this (or any other) group produces needs to be technically possible to implement.
As to the specifics ..
I would argue that generated data is NOT collected, as it’s generated.
If you register stephanieperrin.com with us the only elements we are “collecting” that end up in in the “thin” data are:
the domain name string
the nameservers you’re using (and if you don’t specify any we’ll use our own)
All the other elements are NOT collected by the registrar or even the registry from the registrant, they are generated as part of the process of the domain being registered.
[SAH] Michele, some might argue that the registration period is also collected from the registrant and is then used to generate the expiration date at the registry. A case might also be made for status values like clientTransferProhibited etc. I agree completely that generated data is just that – generated.
Scott